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Old 12-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #1
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FYI jeep in the snow

The thing is solid in the snow! 4 wheel drive at 50 in 3 inches fo snow in the north suburbs of chicago tonite! but people need to learn to drive or get outta my way damn! that is all carry on the tuesday nite rambling

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whoooo hehe i loved my ride home from college today, like you said, people need to drive or get off the road.
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No doubts but i have driven 4 wheel drive vehicles before but this thing is damn solid like more so then f-250 f-350's. I drove home to gurnee from highland park. 41 was a mess but it was the a great test. On what the thing does and well t tracks like your best huntin dog!
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Don't get too confident. Where there's snow there's ice, and yes many people don't know how to drive and once people are dead or severely injured, it doesn't matter too much who was at fault. (except for possibly monetarily) The Jeep goes forward solidly, but it's not much better than the rest at stopping. Take it easy and be careful out there guys.
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The Jeep goes forward solidly, but it's not much better than the rest at stopping. Take it easy and be careful out there guys.
my thoughts exactly. a lot of accidents in winter weather are caused by overconfident drivers.
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^^Yes, in slippery stuff and turns the rear will try to pass the front.
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a lot of accidents in winter weather are caused by overconfident drivers.
correction, a lot of accidents in winter weather are caused by drivers who actually do not know how to control their vehicle when it goes out of control whether it's a spin out or brakes locking up.
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Driven in it for i dunno 6 years now- had 2 stangs in IL too now a jeep. Have not crashed one of them yet in any weather. Actually it stops really nice- I have done my tests on it in a parking lot the thing is really nice. I also love the fact there is no ABS on the rig too. I have found more people out here get into accidents from being to careful instead of just driving. I have pulled out 4 people in the past week with the jeep 2.
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correction, a lot of accidents in winter weather are caused by drivers who actually do not know how to control their vehicle when it goes out of control whether it's a spin out or brakes locking up.
Triple you see it like i do- people need to know that if there car starts drifting you DO NOT SLAM ON THE BRAKES AND STEER THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO!!!
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:43 PM   #11
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Driving in the snow is easy, stopping, well, thats another story... I managed to spin mine last winter when I came around a corner and saw a truck across the road. I about sucked up the wet okole seat cover before I got stopped facing the way I came then the 4 people in the full sized dodge 4 door pickup came crawling out of the woods where they dived to when they saw me coming...
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see the biggest problem is people do not practice so once they slide, they panic and it all hits the fan from there on with them in a ditch or on their roof or in the back bumper of the ford in front of them.

I blame the law for most of that too. They do not offer any locations to practice emergency stuff. If they see you practicing on a small street or in a parking lot, they come running over to give you their stinken blessing.
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The only way i am going to slide out and possibly loose control is if somebody makes me miss them because they lost control. I have never put myself in a position to hurt me or my vehicle. I have a class "A" road race license and a class "B" rally license. I am qualified to drive hehe
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lol where do u get those? They seem like they could be fun to get.
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see the biggest problem is people do not practice so once they slide, they panic and it all hits the fan from there on with them in a ditch or on their roof or in the back bumper of the ford in front of them.

I blame the law for most of that too. They do not offer any locations to practice emergency stuff. If they see you practicing on a small street or in a parking lot, they come running over to give you their stinken blessing.
I told a cop in gurnee if he could catch me he could write me a ticket. Told me I was going to fast for conditions but was under the posted speed limit last winter in the f-150 in 4 wheel drive. He was pissed but could not rite me a ticket because I was not speeding! I was playin in a parking lot before well a little playing and a lot of teachin a friend (woman) what to do if certain stuff comes up in the snow.
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lol where do u get those? They seem like they could be fun to get.
California- I might only be 22 but have learned to drive. Love to drive. I am building a road race car too for my license I have!

BTW umm Almost went to jail the other day! A friend of mine(woman) I need to say that again (WOMAN) took the scrapper to the driver side window before I caught what she was doing! Told her to not do that she goes i need to get the ice off for ya I said I would drive with it on! Scratched my window pretty good.
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Told her to not do that she goes i need to get the ice off for ya I said I would drive with it on! Scratched my window pretty good.
My dad did something like that except with a squeegee to get the mud and dirt off my windows. I was in the mini-mart rest room and when i came out he was done.
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My dad did something like that except with a squeegee to get the mud and dirt off my windows. I was in the mini-mart rest room and when i came out he was done.
Yea umm she almost found out how cold and wet a ditch was! She is still a great friend so it was forgiven but not forgotten by any means! I still bring up to her everyday. Like damn would be nice to see my driver side mirror! She doesn't think it is 2 funny.
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I told a cop in gurnee if he could catch me he could write me a ticket. Told me I was going to fast for conditions but was under the posted speed limit last winter in the f-150 in 4 wheel drive. He was pissed but could not rite me a ticket because I was not speeding! I was playin in a parking lot before well a little playing and a lot of teachin a friend (women) what to do if certain stuff comes up in the snow.
The posted speed limit means nothing if he wants to give you a ticket. A speed limit is considered (at least in most states) "Legal maximum, suggested speed for average conditions." If it is nice sunny, 75+ degrees, with no moisture on the roads or in the air, and there is NO traffic at all, than sure, no problems. If there is snow on the road, and you are doing 50 mph in a 55, the officer has every right to give you a ticket. I forget what it is called, something along the lines of "Speed greater than reasonable" or something. Really, you can get a ticket for anything, just like you can get arrested for anything, if the officer decides to.

And I agree with others on this forum. I used to race myself, I know how to drive as well, but I see the over confidence as more of a problem than people knowing how to drive. Don't get me wrong, I agree with tripp to an extent that a lot of people don't know what to do in a panic situation, but I have seen just as many, if not more people crash or cause an accident because they are "skilled and trained" drivers getting cocky and going too fast. Just because you know how to correct a fishtail properly or regain control in a skid does not mean it is safe to do so when you pass a slow moving vehicle in the plowed lane by using the snow covered lane. You may know HOW to correct a fishtail or regain control of a skid, but you cannot guarantee that at 45mph, on top of snow, you can regain control of the vehicle before you enter another lane. Your Jeep may be small, but it is still wider than a lane when sideways.

And I still believe in what I said in another post. Jeeps are awesome in the snow, but just like everything else, they are dependent on tires. They will still go straight with bald street tires in the snow, but turning, stopping, and keeping speed through a curve without fishtailing is something a small wheelbase vehicle has trouble with while using certain tires. Street tires, ATs etc., not a problem, but put a set of non-sipped mud tires or MT/Rs (or even those bald street tires) on your Jeep, and things can get pretty squirrely pretty quick. My Jeep is almost as bad as my V8 Camaro in snow/ice with these MT/Rs, but my old Jeep was a DREAM with Dayton Timberline A/Ts.
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The posted speed limit means nothing if he wants to give you a ticket. A speed limit is considered (at least in most states) "Legal maximum, suggested speed for average conditions." If it is nice sunny, 75+ degrees, with no moisture on the roads or in the air, and there is NO traffic at all, than sure, no problems. If there is snow on the road, and you are doing 50 mph in a 55, the officer has every right to give you a ticket. I forget what it is called, something along the lines of "Speed greater than reasonable" or something. Really, you can get a ticket for anything, just like you can get arrested for anything, if the officer decides to.

And I agree with others on this forum. I used to race myself, I know how to drive as well, but I see the over confidence as more of a problem than people knowing how to drive. Don't get me wrong, I agree with tripp to an extent that a lot of people don't know what to do in a panic situation, but I have seen just as many, if not more people crash or cause an accident because they are "skilled and trained" drivers getting cocky and going too fast. Just because you know how to correct a fishtail properly or regain control in a skid does not mean it is safe to do so when you pass a slow moving vehicle in the plowed lane by using the snow covered lane. You may know HOW to correct a fishtail or regain control of a skid, but you cannot guarantee that at 45mph, on top of snow, you can regain control of the vehicle before you enter another lane. Your Jeep may be small, but it is still wider than a lane when sideways.

And I still believe in what I said in another post. Jeeps are awesome in the snow, but just like everything else, they are dependent on tires. They will still go straight with bald street tires in the snow, but turning, stopping, and keeping speed through a curve without fishtailing is something a small wheelbase vehicle has trouble with while using certain tires. Street tires, ATs etc., not a problem, but put a set of non-sipped mud tires or MT/Rs (or even those bald street tires) on your Jeep, and things can get pretty squirrely pretty quick. My Jeep is almost as bad as my V8 Camaro in snow/ice with these MT/Rs, but my old Jeep was a DREAM with Dayton Timberline A/Ts.
Well said on the fish tail part- yes I don't drive like a bat outta hell but i do drive faster then most in most conditions. No fishtailing around vehicles- I am sure I can save it before i hit anything or anybody but the other driver freaks out and then the pile up occurs. i have a at tire on mine and it does wonders in the snow, it is only a 9.5 wide too! My stang had 305's on it when I drove it in the snow. That would float 2 foot or more side to side. It made me figure out how to drive real fast.
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Ask Nick Hogan how all his driving training worked out for him, LOL. Another example of overconfidence on the roads causing severe injury.
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my rig in 2wd is a mess. I have ATs that have few and by few i mean FEW sipes.. i can floor it on 5th gear and start spinning in the snow.. AND I HAVE THE STOCK 3.73 GEARS. On 4wd, no problems at all.

As for passing in the snow lane goes, if you do know how to drive, you would know that you are either going too fast, or you would at least test out the traction before you do that. Learning how to drive is half the distance, actually thinking how to drive is another story.

As for that 50 in a 55 example you gave, the cop can ticket you for "driving too fast for conditions". I say that is crap. How does he know what is too fast for conditions when you are driving a rig with 2 times the traction his POS Fix Or Repair Daily has.
In other words, what he might consider what is too fast for conditions is great for you and your vehicle.
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He can write you the ticket, but it doesn't mean you can't fight it in front of a judge.
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Ask Nick Hogan how all his driving training worked out for him, LOL. Another example of overconfidence on the roads causing severe injury.
Nick Hogan had the training BUT he never passed any of the test to actually race. So yes he learned how to drive but didn't. He was a moron at best. He wreck 3 400k vipers too before Dodge told him to take a hike. He could never drive along with not knowing the power of what a 1100 horsepower supra feels like. I have drivin a 1400 twin turbo 03 cobra- The power when it comes on it hits so hard it will smoke tires in any gear, it is about driving to your abilities. Test the envelope on empty roads were the only thing to hurt is yourself.\

That is why he walked away from the truck that nite(cop). I think he realized I would win in court. 2 wheel drive to 4 wheel drive is a huge difference in the snow. done em both, 4 wheel drive makes it nite and day.
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He can write you the ticket, but it doesn't mean you can't fight it in front of a judge.
for a ticket that you got on the road, you are guilty until proven innocent. It's just how it is. Talk about corruption eh?
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for a ticket that you got on the road, you are guilty until proven innocent. It's just how it is. Talk about corruption eh?
haha then even when your innocent your still on the cops list of umm harassment through out the department! Been there done that in socal not a fun month to say it. Got pulled over to just check things on the car it was getting old real fast.
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back when i first got my bike, i was driving on a road. (might know it.. its called bussy or 83) speed limit 50.. i was going 50. according to a website my bike ninja comes w/ messed up speedometer from the factory so even though its showing 50, its actually going 47.. so i was going slower than the speed limit. Anyhow i pass a cop parked on the side of the street, look back in the mirror, nothing. A second later i look back, he is there following me. The guy must have gotten up to 65-70 mph to catch up w/ me in the amount of time he did. Anyhow there were 2 guys in the cop car. They drove behind me for about 2 minutes, then they went on my left, checked me out real good and then pulled over to the side of the road. My opinion why he did that? Him and his blue jumpsuit friend were looking for something to ticket me on.

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