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Old 02-22-2011, 07:13 PM   #31
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I found that if I tilt the nozzle handle up a lil bit with it still all the way in and keep filling it won't overfill. I start the tilt when it gets close to full, never had a problem since I started doing it this way.

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I have this problem with both my 06 and 08

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You should be able to get the '08 fixed under warranty.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:42 PM   #34
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Ratuna,

Sure there are work-arounds but the fact is that you have a stuck check valve in the tank. As I read the manual, it has 2 purposes. 1 to prevent gas spill out when filling up & 2 to prevent spills in rollovers. Many of us are aware of #1, we better hope we don’t encounter #2. Anyway, you should consider a complaint to the NHTSA. It has worked for the JK owners. They (certain yrs) have gotten a TSB extending the warranty on their tanks. Now we need to get our TJs included.

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They may be replacing the tanks with similar ones that will eventually develop the same problem or there may be improved check valves. According to the Chrysler response to the NHTSA request, there is supposed to be a change in Feb, 2011. Don’t know how to verify that but if we can at least get the extension as the JKs did we can worry about the rest as it comes.

I’m reading some conflicting info about the TSB. It has been widely reported that Chrysler has replaced tanks for $100-150 & told these people that if there was a recall that they would be reimbursed. I read in another post that some guy was denied reimbursement on a replaced tank because it is not a recall but a “courtesy” warranty extension. This is new & I’m sure things will shake out for them. I’m not in a hurry to replace my tank but hope Chrysler gives the TJ owners the same consideration as the JKs. This problem started with TJs. Our Jeeps are older than theirs so it stands to reason that there are more of us with this problem.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:17 PM   #35
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Good news for some JK owners, bad news for the TJ owners:

NHTSA Action Number : PE10032 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
JEEP / WRANGLER 2007-2008

JEEP / WRANGLER 2-DR 4X4 2007-2008

JEEP / WRANGLER 2-DR 4X4 RHD 2007-2008

JEEP / WRANGLER 4-DR 4X2 2007-2008

JEEP / WRANGLER 4-DR 4X4 2007-2008

JEEP / WRANGLER SAHARA 2007

JEEP / WRANGLER X RHD 4X4 2007

Manufacturer : CHRYSLER GROUP LLC
Component(s) :
FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE
FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY:FILLER PIPE AND CAP
FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER
FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER:STORAGE
FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY:FILLING/CHARGING

Date Investigation Opened : August 23, 2010
Date Investigation Closed : February 16, 2011
Summary:
ODI found the rate of warranty claims related to fuel spit back on the subject vehicles is lower than other vehicles previously recalled to correct defects related to fuel spit back. Although the rate of complaints reported to the agency on the subject vehicles is higher than or similar to the rates experienced in previous investigations where safety recalls were conducted, ODI suspects that the NHTSA safety complaints submitted by subject vehicles owners may have been influenced by internet related publicity both before and during this investigation. A safety-related defect trend has not been identified at this time and further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted. Accordingly, this investigation is closed. The closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by NHTSA that no safety-related defect exists. The agency will monitor the issue and reserves the right to take future action if warranted by the circumstances. See attached report for additional information. In addition, Chrysler is initiating a lifetime warranty program, at no cost to the consumer, to address the fuel spit back problem in approximately 135,000 model year 2007-2008 Jeep Wrangler vehicles built from March 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008. Chrysler will notify all affected vehicle owners of this action. Consumers should refer to the warranty and service bulletins and sample owner notification letter available in the investigative file. The vehicle build date can be found on the certification label located on the driver door or door jamb.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:25 PM   #36
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:20 PM   #37
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Thanks, jkp. I see you have an '06 so you are in the same position as I am with my '05.



Classic good news/bad news. I think the TJ owners still need to complain to NHTSA. They think the net & these forums caused more complaints. OK how is that a bad thing? The problem still exists. Chrysler did a good thing. And a smart thing. By avoiding a recall, they don’t have to replace all the tanks, with an extended warranty they only replace the affected ones. Some tanks MAY never spit back & why should those be replaced? Still, the earlier TJs with the same problem (probably the exact same check valve) deserve the same consideration, don’t they?
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:17 PM   #38
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Agree, everyone with a TJ that develops this problem should continue to file a complaint. I think nearly all of them will eventually have this issue.
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:58 PM   #39
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I just got a letter from Chrysler jeep saying that if you take your jeep into the dealership they'll fix the problem I believe free of charge.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:49 PM   #40
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I received warranty letter today also, but mine said it was for 2007-2008 Jeep Wranglers. The problem is the "inlet check valve". The warranty extension covers the "fuel spit back condition". The customer service number is 877-426-5337. I hope your jeep is covered, too.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:58 PM   #41
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My 05 TJ has this problem. I was wondering if there was a recall that I didn't know about. Glad I found this thread.
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:40 PM   #42
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Wake781, no recall yet but we are working on it. The '07&'08s got a warranty extension (unlimited) so there is hope.
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:55 PM   #43
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I just slow down when it gets close to the top. Never spills out.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:42 PM   #44
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I have a 2008 Sahara so i don't know about any other years
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:52 PM   #45
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I’m hoping for another push to get the TJs included for extended gas tank warranties like the ’07 &’08 JKs recently got. I have over 325 handles of TJ owners that have complained of fuel spill out when they fill up. These come from the various threads on various forums. Some have filed complaints, some I’m sure haven’t. Let’s all file or re-file. I will continue to add to my list.

If anyone has this problem but has not posted, please do so. We need to know how many TJs are actually having this problem. I know there are always suggestions for work-arounds but please don’t post them here. We want to actually get this resolved.

To help spread the word, I made up some business size cards & carry several everywhere I go. Anytime I see a TJ in a parking lot, I leave one on the windshield. It just asks them if they are having this problem & if so directs them to one of these forums. I hope others will do the same.

The most discouraging thing is that Chrysler has more than doubled the price of replacement tanks. If anyone can verify that they have improved or redesigned the inlet check valve (ICV) let me know. It was supposed to have happened in Feb.

Check valve (ICV) manufactured by Alfmeier.

Also worth noting that while the ’03-’06 TJ tank now lists for $914.00 (last previous price I could find was $427.00), the JK tank lists for $192.00 (2dr) & $265.00 (4dr). All from mopar-wholesale.com (their prices are $630.20, $132.25, & $182.85 respectively)


..and here is the PART NUMBER to the latest Fuel Tank:

52059617-AG COST: $341.60 RETAIL: $427.00

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Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059617AG $914.00 $0.00 $630.20
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank
Fuel tank - 2003-06 2005 - 2006


Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059718AH $192.00 $0.00 $132.25
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank - 2 door
2 door 2010 - 2011

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
52059729AG $265.00 $0.00 $182.85
Fuel system - Fuel system components - Fuel tank - 4 door
4 door 2009 – 2010
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Glad I found this thread...cause I just bought my 1st Jeep, a 06 TJ and was having this happen. Hopefully the powers that be will hear us complain enough that they'll fix it!
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To help spread the word, I made up some business size cards & carry several everywhere I go. Anytime I see a TJ in a parking lot, I leave one on the windshield.
Be very careful doing that. In Texas you might end up staring down the barrel of a .45 because someone thinks you're trying to steal it.
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Be very careful doing that. In Texas you might end up staring down the barrel of a .45 because someone thinks you're trying to steal it.
Good point! A lot of times it's in CA & the way they are about guns, it's probably safe but when in NV it's a lot like TX so I will head your caution.

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Glad I found this thread...cause I just bought my 1st Jeep, a 06 TJ and was having this happen. Hopefully the powers that be will hear us complain enough that they'll fix it!
The best way to complain is to file a complaint with the NHTSA.

Help all of us, file now.
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The best way to complain is to file a complaint with the NHTSA.

Help all of us, file now.
@RUBI 4 MY MRS, I agree, and already did.
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I haven't filed a complaint yet myself, but it is on my list of things to do this week.

Has anyone had any responses from Jeep about this for the '06 or earlier models?
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:20 AM   #51
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The best way to complain is to file a complaint with the NHTSA.

Help all of us, file now.
Could you provide a link where we can file complaints? If it's better to send a custom letter, I can do that - just need to know where to send it. (Yeah - I'm being lazy...)
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Online complaint form https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

You need your VIN. Then give a brief description of your problem. If you want to see what others (of the hundreds) have written go here & pick your year & model.
Consumer Automotive Safety Complaints & Car Problems - ARFC

I think online is better you can see that they have actually gotten it & as noted above, others can see that they are not alone with this problem.
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Here is what I have found as of 8-3-2011

There are 363 complaints filed for the 2006 JEEP WRANGLER

Fuel System Gasoline (239)

Fuel System Other (8)

There are 314 complaints filed for the 2005 JEEP WRANGLER

Fuel System Gasoline (211)

Fuel System Other (3)

68.0% of all complaints (247/363) for ’06 & 68.1% (214/314) for ’05 are fuel related & most are for this fuel spit-back problem.

Yr model---date of 1st complaint--# of complaints (Fuel System Gasoline)
’05---2-09--211
’06---11-09--239
’07---11-10---28
’08---3-10—36
’09---11-10—6
’10---1-10—20


So it is not been fixed even for the 2010 models but most prevalent on '05 & '06s. Some '07 & '08s have been given a lifetime extended warranty on their tanks.
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Online complaint form https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

You need your VIN. Then give a brief description of your problem. If you want to see what others (of the hundreds) have written go here & pick your year & model. Consumer Automotive Safety Complaints & Car Problems - ARFC

I think online is better you can see that they have actually gotten it & as noted above, others can see that they are not alone with this problem.
Cool! Thank you! My complaint has now been filed.
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’05---2-09--211
Up to 252 now with the complaint I just filed.
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Thanks krisak, I was on the road & didn't have the latest count from the end of Oct.

As of 10-31-11 The + numbers are those added since 8/3/11

There are 397 complaints filed for the 2006 JEEP WRANGLER +34
Fuel System Gasoline (267) +28
Fuel System Other (7) -1 (?)

Fuel System Gasoline (233) +22
Fuel System Other (3) 0
There are 341 complaints filed for the 2005 JEEP WRANGLER +27

69.0% of all complaints (274/397) for ’06 & 69.2% (236/341) for ’05 are fuel related & most are for this fuel spit-back problem.

Go to http://www.arfc.org/complaints/ & run the various yrs.


Yr model---date of 1st complaint--# of complaints (Fuel System Gasoline)
’05---2-09--233
’06---11-09--267
’07---11-10---30
’08---3-10—38
’09---11-10—6
’10---1-10—24
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This issue is not going away. Since 10-31-2011 (about 50 days) of the 19 new complaints for the ’06 TJs, 13 have been for fuel spitting out. For the ‘05s - 30 new & 26 for this. That is 39 new complaints in 50 days.

There are 416 complaints filed for the 2006 JEEP WRANGLER +19

Fuel System Gasoline (280) +13
Fuel System Other (7) 0
There are 371 complaints filed for the 2005 JEEP WRANGLER +30

Fuel System Gasoline (259) +26
Fuel System Other (3) 0

69.0% of all complaints (287/416) for ’06 & 70.6% (262/371) for ’05 are fuel related & most are for this fuel spit-back problem.

(There are 127 complaints filed for the 2004 JEEP WRANGLER all catigories)


Go to Consumer Automotive Safety Complaints & Car Problems - ARFC & run the various yrs.


Yr model---date of 1st complaint--# of complaints (Fuel System Gasoline)
’05---2-09--259
’06---11-09--280
’07---11-10---33
’08---3-10—43
’09---11-10—6
’10---1-10—24




Here is a bulletin: Chrysler claims that the problem is exposure to ethanol (above 10%). They also claim they are going to re-design or re-spec the valve. Well there are already 20 complaints filed on 2010 JKs - the first one in Jan., 2010. At least one complaint was from the VERY FIRST time they filled up!

Does your TJ’s gas tank overflow at the pump?SUBMIT COMPLAINT HERE!
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I do the same thing Rubicon2 does. I slow the flow of fuel when I know its getting close to full. No spills lately.
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My wife's 2005 Jeep Liberty and my 2010 Wrangler Sport will over flow if you don't stop pump well before it fills up
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