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Old 07-08-2011, 06:03 PM   #1
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getting a new soft top. need help

the soft top that came with the Jeep when i bought it sucks. the back window is becoming unstiched, and the back passenger side windows teeth are unaligned in alot of places.
anyway, i have been looking online at 4wd.com, and quadratec.com, and the 4wd catalog. there are so many different types of soft tops by different companies. i have a '99 wrangler sport.

also any recommendation on a color? i have a maroon-rusty color. theres a picture of it on my profile picture.

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I like my Bestop Supertop.

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i just put on a bestop trektop and am pretty happy with it, functionally and visually!
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Tan go with the Bestop.

NX if you don't have factory hardware.
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Tan go with the Bestop.

NX if you don't have factory hardware.
Just got the bestop supertop NX. Highly recommended.
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I have the same Chili Pepper Red color. My original top was tan in color but went with black for the new top due to it having tinted windows. IMO tinted windows on a tan top doesn't look right. Just a thought.
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Any opinion on sailcloth?
It's thicker
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If you have the $$ go with Bestop. The OEM top is made by Bestop

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I bought and installed the best top sailcloth top on my 97 wrangler. It's an excellent top! Quieter, thicker and fits perfect.
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I bought and installed the best top sailcloth top on my 97 wrangler. It's an excellent top! Quieter, thicker and fits perfect.
I do a lot of highway driving. One reason I'm interested. Anything out the similar?
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Any recommendation on a cheap brand?
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I bought the Pavement Ends Fliptop 3 weeks ago. Easy to install and works great. I have a hardtop so it will only be used for 2-3 months in the summer so it will probably last a long time an I bought it because it was a cheap alternative. I find the flip top to be of no use as it is just as easy to take down the whole top.

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I recently got a Bestop Trektop NX. It's frameless and becomes an bikini top when you zip out the windows. Had it for about 3 weeks and love it so far. Cost me $600 to my front door from quadratec.
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Just to clarify:

"Sailcloth" isn't a top, it's a fabric. Bestop sells a Replace-a-Top in sailcloth fabric, and that's usually what people mean when they say "sailcloth."

The Replace-a-top is replacement fabric and windows, but you reuse all your original factory hardware (bows, screws, etc.).

The sailcloth R-a-T is a very well reviewed product, and an excellent choice if your hardware is still in good shape.

The new NX tops are also available in sailcloth.
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So I just remove my top and attach this one? Or any RAT? My hardware is good. It's the zippers and Velcro that's showing age.
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So I just remove my top and attach this one? Or any RAT? My hardware is good. It's the zippers and Velcro that's showing age.
Basically, yes. The complication is in the windshield header: that's occasionally a touch confusing to put onto the new fabric. But people do figure it out. And if you have fabric upper doors, then the replacements for those can be a pain. But for an hour or so of work, you end up with a brand new top. All new zippers, all new velcro, all new plastic tabs over the doors, etc.

Bestop sells two levels of RAT, the regular, which is quite good, and the sailcloth, which is better.

Pavement Ends sells one called the Replay, which will save you even more money, and there are others out there as well.
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Basically, yes. The complication is in the windshield header: that's occasionally a touch confusing to put onto the new fabric. But people do figure it out. And if you have fabric upper doors, then the replacements for those can be a pain. But for an hour or so of work, you end up with a brand new top. All new zippers, all new velcro, all new plastic tabs over the doors, etc.

Bestop sells two levels of RAT, the regular, which is quite good, and the sailcloth, which is better.

Pavement Ends sells one called the Replay, which will save you even more money, and there are others out there as well.
Is it easier to buy a top that includes hardware? I'm sure cost more but I want seal, especially on doors, to fit tight.
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Sailcloth is DEFINITELY worth the extra $$$. It is heavier-duty, multi-layer, and will last a lot longer in addition to it making the interior substantially quieter than the standard single-layer soft top fabric all other tops use. The interior of a Sailcloth top equipped Jeep is nearly as quiet as those equipped with a hardtop. Even the factory started shipping all new Wranglers with Sailcloth starting in the early 2000's. Maybe 2000 or 2001 or so.
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Ok, so sailcloth is a definately. But I'm reading 4wd catalog, and it says like
1997-02 TJ Wrangler w/steel had doors and then it says like (01,37) what difference does it make if I have half doors or full doors? Also what do the numbers mean?
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Ok, so sailcloth is a definately. But I'm reading 4wd catalog, and it says like
1997-02 TJ Wrangler w/steel had doors and then it says like (01,37) what difference does it make if I have half doors or full doors? Also what do the numbers mean?
The difference in full doors or half doors-will affect what will be included with your new top purchase/what is needed. The numbers that I think you are confused about are a "key" to color of top and type of material. If it were me and I was looking to replace a factory top-and wasn't sure about hardware-would get a new frameless soft top-from Bestop in Sailcloth.

It allows for easier open top riding. Just zip out the windows. No frame to worry about or fool with. And the front header piece is the only "hardware" needed.

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The difference in full doors or half doors-will affect what will be included with your new top purchase/what is needed. The numbers that I think you are confused about are a "key" to color of top and type of material. If it were me and I was looking to replace a factory top-and wasn't sure about hardware-would get a new frameless soft top-from Bestop in Sailcloth.

It allows for easier open top riding. Just zip out the windows. No frame to worry about or fool with. And the front header piece is the only "hardware" needed.

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Too many top styles!!


So with frameless no hardware? So I just remove hardware I have? Does it come with front header?
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Ok, so sailcloth is a definately. But I'm reading 4wd catalog, and it says like
1997-02 TJ Wrangler w/steel had doors and then it says like (01,37) what difference does it make if I have half doors or full doors? Also what do the numbers mean?
jp2611 is exactly correct.

- You need to match your year.
- You need to decide on tinted or clear rear windows
- You need to decide whether you also need replacement fabric for your upper doors, or if you don't need upper door fabric at all.
-You need to decide on the color. That's the last two digits.

-01 = black "crush"
-15 blakc "denim"
-35 black "diamond"
-36 khaki diamond
-37 spice

These are all the same fabrics, but just different print.
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So with frameless no hardware? So I just remove hardware I have? Does it come with front header?
Bestop sells Replace-a-Tops, which are just fabric and windows, and you reuse your hardware.

We also sell full tops, which include all the hardware you need. So a Trektop, the new NX tops, a Supertop, etc., are all full tops and include all the hardware needed. Our frameless styles are the classic Trektop, and the Trektop NX, and they have all hardware included.

Some, but not all, of our competitors do require you to buy a windshield header and door surrounds separately.

The wide variety of options available definitely gets confusing!

And yes, you would just remove the hardware you have now.
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Sailcloth is DEFINITELY worth the extra $$$. It is heavier-duty, multi-layer, and will last a lot longer in addition to it making the interior substantially quieter than the standard single-layer soft top fabric all other tops use. The interior of a Sailcloth top equipped Jeep is nearly as quiet as those equipped with a hardtop. Even the factory started shipping all new Wranglers with Sailcloth starting in the early 2000's. Maybe 2000 or 2001 or so.
So my 98 wouldn't be sailcloth then? That helps me out a lot bc I was thinking mine was sailcloth since I'm almost positive it's the original top...

Is the sailcloth easy to fold down still? Seems like if it was so thick it would be more difficult...

I remember seeing a 04 jeep I believe when I was looking to buy and noticed the top was very sturdy looking, probably bc it was sailcloth
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oh and Geoff, you need to hook me up around Christmas time ok? My pavement Ends top sucks and it's pretty much shot
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I saw a jeep with the back if top at an angle. Looked sharp. Not sure if would work with car seat but anyone know which one I'm talking about?

I will need a new top before it starts getting cold as zippers on rear window are broke. Can't drive two year old around in winter like that.
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I saw a jeep with the back if top at an angle. Looked sharp. Not sure if would work with car seat but anyone know which one I'm talking about?

I will need a new top before it starts getting cold as zippers on rear window are broke. Can't drive two year old around in winter like that.
probably a frame less top.
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probably a frame less top.
Any advantage/disadvantage to a frameless v a frame top?

Next top I buy will last me awhile. Current top 11 years old and only replacing bc of zippers and Velcro.

So appreciate everyone help and opinions

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