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Old 05-23-2006, 02:03 PM   #1
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Going from Liberty to Wrangler questions

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I'm going to be switching from my 2004 Liberty Sport to a 2006 Wrangler.

Big question.......hard top versus soft top?

I live in Illinois and the winter weather can be pretty brutal. Any problems with the soft top keeping the Wrangler warm? Or should I go for the dual top option?


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Personal choice

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I can only tell you what I prefer, or what is practical for us(the wife and I). My wife drives the wrangler to work everyday, 30 miles either direction, and likes to listen to her CD's on the way to work. She also is a BOM, (buisness office manager) and has to look all prim and propper when she gets there. So we(she) prefers having the hard top on, and gets less road noise that way, and better A/C. It is a delema that fits everyone differently. My brother-in-law has a softtop on his unlimited, and that is all he keeps on his Jeep. But there again, he is the one driving it, and does not have any hair on his head, and does not mind the noise of the softtop. So to some it all up, you will have to choose your own poison.......lol. We don't get much rain around here, so a Safarai top works great when we go wheeling, so I do have to wrestle with the hard top once a month or so. Having two sons helps with that project quickly. In the summer, the softtop is definately more versatile.

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I'm going to be switching from my 2004 Liberty Sport to a 2006 Wrangler.

Big question.......hard top versus soft top?

I live in Illinois and the winter weather can be pretty brutal. Any problems with the soft top keeping the Wrangler warm? Or should I go for the dual top option?


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I live in Illinois also, northern Illinois. I bought my 2000TJ last November with the hard top on and the soft top in a box. I put the soft top on last month. The hard top is MUCH quitier and keeps things warmer so I assume the AC would be cooler with the hard top. But who needs AC with a TJ unless it's 95 out and starts raining. Otherwise just zip out the windows and drop her!
Honestly, I did like the rear wiper and defroster of the hard top. Did I mention the hard top is a LOT quieter?
I would either go for the dual top or the hard top only option. If you are financing get both! The soft top is much less expensive if you do want to get one later.
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I would agree with the hardtop option in a very cold climate. I personally here in AZ barely ever have my full soft top on, but it will still cool nicely with the AC when I do have it on.
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i like the hard top because it is quiet and isn't as prone to leaks and i like the nice clean look and u can still take it off
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but the dual top option is definitely nice
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:16 PM   #7
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Leakage?

Is that also a major concern with the soft top?

I found one Unlimited that I liked, dual tops, but the dealer and I were just too far apart. Plus is just had the base stereo in it.

But, another dealer has one the same color, better stereo etc but without the dual tops, soft top only.

I know I definetly want the 06 Wrangler since it's the last year for the 4.0. I don't know what DC is thinking getting rid of the 4.0 And what's with the power windows and crap?! If I want all that stuff, I'll keep my Libby.

This one's for you DC
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Where are you?

A dealer can find you what you are looking for...

If you like I can track one down for you and tell you where it is.

Let me know.

I love my Soft Top, But I also like my Full doors.
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wow. i didnt even know that wranglers had power windows
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If you want both tops, buy the Jeep with the HT and buy the ST aftermarket. Much cheaper.
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If you want both tops, buy the Jeep with the HT and buy the ST aftermarket. Much cheaper.

totally agree, its much cheeper to buy the soft top and half doors after then having to buy the full doors and hard top
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Don't worry about heat with the soft top. I ordered mine with both tops and haven't had the hard top on since that first winter. The heat in newer Jeeps will burn you up. With the soft top, even on the coldest days around here, once it heats up inside I always have to turn the heat down to it's lowest setting. The a/c works great also but I usually have the top down unless it's raining.
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Don't worry about heat with the soft top. I ordered mine with both tops and haven't had the hard top on since that first winter. The heat in newer Jeeps will burn you up. With the soft top, even on the coldest days around here, once it heats up inside I always have to turn the heat down to it's lowest setting. The a/c works great also but I usually have the top down unless it's raining.
But you live in Memphis man. I am in NW Illinois. It gets cold up here! I switched to my soft top in early May this year. I actually took it all the way off for the first time yesterday.
Had to put it back on this morning though. It is supposed to rain for the next two days.
Another benefit to the hard top in the winter is that it handles the weight of the snow better.
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I bought my 06' Sport with both tops.My other Jeeps have all been Soft Tops only.I really like having the Hard top,Even though Its only on 4 months out of the year.
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Don't worry about heat with the soft top. I ordered mine with both tops and haven't had the hard top on since that first winter. The heat in newer Jeeps will burn you up. With the soft top, even on the coldest days around here, once it heats up inside I always have to turn the heat down to it's lowest setting. The a/c works great also but I usually have the top down unless it's raining.
You crack me up SouthTJ........how many nights last winter got below freezing in Memphis, and how many inches of snow did you get? Being from the south, and southwest, we can hardly relate to what a real winter is all about........lol. I didn't even think about the amount of snow they get up north. I don't think a soft top would handle a foot of snow on it.

BTW, I did not mean any disrespect with the above comment, I included myself in not thinking about the differences in winters from the southern states vs. northern states.
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You crack me up SouthTJ........how many nights last winter got below freezing in Memphis, and how many inches of snow did you get? Being from the south, and southwest, we can hardly relate to what a real winter is all about........lol. I didn't even think about the amount of snow they get up north. I don't think a soft top would handle a foot of snow on it.

BTW, I did not mean any disrespect with the above comment, I included myself in not thinking about the differences in winters from the southern states vs. northern states.

No offense taken, I was only refering to the temp, I agree that snow piled up on a soft top is probably not good for it. How many nights were below freezing? More than you might think but my point was that when it WAS below freezing, say in the teens, my heat worked great. Take it for what you want but at that temp I had no problems at all with heating the interior of a Jeep with a soft top.
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let me jump in with my 2 cents worth and echo the rest of the group


We have both hard/soft top.
hard top: less noise, the heater will cook you, harder to take off
soft top: noisier, heater will keep you plenty warm in winter and cold a/c in summer (if you choose to keep the top up) and easy on/off with the top or window removal only


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confusing................

Ok, now I'm just confused.

I've got it narrowed down to a Wrangler X with the options I want (just trying to get the dealer to install Sirius) but it is a soft top. Full doors, Sunrider soft top, A/C etc.


The soft top won't handle a heavy snow???

Like I said, I'm new to the Wrangler, just have experience with my Libby.

HELP!!!!!!
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Sorry about confusing you, we were only trying to cover all the angles, if you don't get that much snow, or if you have a garage, car port, to park it under, you would not have to worry about a foot of snow on your soft top. Ask the dealer about it, and see what their feeling is on it. I realize that a salesman will tell you anything to make a sale, but at least some of them are honest.
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Ok, now I'm just confused.

I've got it narrowed down to a Wrangler X with the options I want (just trying to get the dealer to install Sirius) but it is a soft top. Full doors, Sunrider soft top, A/C etc.


The soft top won't handle a heavy snow???

Like I said, I'm new to the Wrangler, just have experience with my Libby.

HELP!!!!!!
If you are financing it I would get the full doors and both tops from the dealer. Your monthly payment will only be a couple bucks more compaired with having to come up with the $$ later on to buy aftermarket and it will be covered by your new car warranty.
Remember, aftermarket hard tops can easly go for $1000.

The soft top is fine for most conditions but several inches of heavy wet snow is not good on them. You will be replacing it every couple of years.
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If I go with a soft top only, what is the average life expectancy? I do not have a garage/car port to put the Jeep in, so I would just have to make sure I get outside right after it snows and get it off the roof.

***sigh***I thought I was ready to buy the Jeep I found, but now, I'm not sure again.

Payment with the Wrangler X/soft top that has the options I want is right where I need it to be. Adding anymore options is going to put me over. Unfortunately, I will have some carryover from my Libby.
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i am also shopping for a jeep.. and will say..get the soft top. i plan on getting only the soft, NO hardtop. so what, more noise. but i really like the concept of keeping a wrangler super simple.
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it all really depends on where you live i have a hard top untill about now and then i switch to no top and have a bikini in the back for the occasional rainstorm and thats its, no doors all summer, unless it is supposed to rain like it did the past few weeks and it isnt that big of a hassel to get the hard top off and on and it protects you from the elements and in my opinion is just as good as a soft top if not better. the one thing i dont like about the soft tops is the windows... zippered windows suck.
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Man, don't let these guys scare you. A soft top would be fine in the snow. Now if you were going to park it outside for 2 years and it would snow on it and never be moved then yeah, it's going to affect the top, but if this is going to be your daily driver then you will feel no more hars effects from snow on your top than any convertible top does.

Buy your jeep man. It's time to enjoy it and not worry about it. Jeeps can handle all conditions.
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Man, don't let these guys scare you. A soft top would be fine in the snow. Now if you were going to park it outside for 2 years and it would snow on it and never be moved then yeah, it's going to affect the top, but if this is going to be your daily driver then you will feel no more hars effects from snow on your top than any convertible top does.
I live in CO and we get a bit of snow now and then

I've had the same soft top on this YJ for over 6 years and it's fine. The Jeep is never garaged and the UV here is pretty impressive, even in the winter.

It'll be fine.
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I live in CO and we get a bit of snow now and then

I've had the same soft top on this YJ for over 6 years and it's fine. The Jeep is never garaged and the UV here is pretty impressive, even in the winter.

It'll be fine.
These guys are right on the money. I live in western Pa, and we are no stranger to snow. Alot of people have soft top only...no problem at all. I bought mine used, and it came with fs doors and dual tops. I have come to like the hard top in the winter...but...a personal choice...not a must have.
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no problems here with snow & soft top
my Jeep is 3 years old this month ...zippers slide w/o a problem
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For me it would have to be 6 months bikini only , 6 months hardtop . Mine , however is a toy , not a daily driver . Just my .02 cents .
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whats the bikini top look like?
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