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Old 08-16-2009, 05:11 PM   #1
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Good deal on a 97 wrangler?

Hey guys, im picking up my "new" wrangler tomorrow and just trying to gage if its a good deal. From what i research it seemed like i couldnt touch it anywhere else.


Its a 1997 Jeep wranger I6 5 speed with 162,000 miles
It has a6" Lift, 33" BFG AT tires with full size spare with swing out tire mount, warn winch, 3 pairs of PIA lights, CB, built in air compressor for tires, electronic rear locker, gas tank armor and other features i still dont know of.

Im getting it for $10250 out the door, tax title and reg. When looking for a wrangler, it seemed most 97's with comparable mileage was going for $6-8k. But to add all the mods this one has would tack on $4000-$5000 for the mods.

Just looking for some feedback since i could still back out if its a horrible deal.

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Old 08-16-2009, 05:23 PM   #2
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You for sure are paying for all the modding he has done to it. Make sure you get up under that hood and give it a good looking over and smelling. Crawl under it and see what kind of scars it has and see how much it has been abused. Drive it around and make sure it feels like the mods were installed right.

Do you really want to buy someone elses built rig? Could get a cheaper Jeep and less miles on it and have the chance to make it your own.

To each their own tho..

If it is 100% legit and is a solid Jeep I would say that seems to be a good deal.

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You for sure are paying for all the modding he has done to it. Make sure you get up under that hood and give it a good looking over and smelling. Crawl under it and see what kind of scars it has and see how much it has been abused. Drive it around and make sure it feels like the mods were installed right.

Do you really want to buy someone elses built rig? Could get a cheaper Jeep and less miles on it and have the chance to make it your own.

To each their own tho..

If it is 100% legit and is a solid Jeep I would say that seems to be a good deal.
I did drive it and it all seems really sound, still pulls really good, and the clutch is strong!
The underneath is scar free as well! The front and rear meatballs don't even have any marks in them, nor does the frame! If anything, this guy just did some light off roading. All the wiring is done really well, soldered, loomed and ran really good!
The rear mainseal is weeping a bit, buts it's a pretty easy fix.
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I love my '97 but that's overpriced even with those mods on it. Mine is more heavily modded than that but I wouldn't expect to get even close to that amount for mine. I'd offer several thousand under and negotiate a lower price.
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Im gonna have to agree with Jerry on that one. My 97 isnt worth that much.
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Very nice jeep, But to much $$ for a 97 with those miles. I'd get a cheaper jeep and build it to my liking. That's part of the fun for me.
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Im getting it for $10250 out the door, tax title and reg. When looking for a wrangler, it seemed most 97's with comparable mileage was going for $6-8k. But to add all the mods this one has would tack on $4000-$5000 for the mods.
I'm not sure that I would pay $10k for a Jeep with that high of mileage either.
If you could get one with the same amount of miles for $6k,
you'd have $4k to mod it however you like.
And just like Dave said, that really IS half the fun.

But if it's solid, you really like it and the way it's set up, go for it.
It's a nice look'n Jeep.
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Seems steep. I live in CT too and just picked up my jeep. Mine is a 97 as well, got it for 5 grand. 125k, stock, except for rubicon wheels and tires. Same as that, 6 cylinder manual.

People want ridiculous money for these things, as they hold their value quite well. Or, from our area, that are all rotted. Seems like you are paying for all those mods as if they were new, which isn't right. Mods don't retain their value and transfer to the next buyer like that, people are crazy to think that.

Id keep looking, or offer 7 or 8 grand. Is that a dealer? Cuz they jack the prices even worse.
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Seems steep. I live in CT too and just picked up my jeep. Mine is a 97 as well, got it for 5 grand. 125k, stock, except for rubicon wheels and tires. Same as that, 6 cylinder manual.

People want ridiculous money for these things, as they hold their value quite well. Or, from our area, that are all rotted. Seems like you are paying for all those mods as if they were new, which isn't right. Mods don't retain their value and transfer to the next buyer like that, people are crazy to think that.

Id keep looking, or offer 7 or 8 grand. Is that a dealer? Cuz they jack the prices even worse.
It is at a dealer, i event tried offered $8k cash and they turned it down. They would not budge on that price even for cash!!

Ive checked ebay, craigslist, autotrader, carmax, bargainnews, and a few others and couldnt find any under $6500. Most of them were $8-10! using zip code 06111

If i spend 8-10, i have no more budget for the mods, so it seems like this is my best bet. If i could find a I6 1997 or newer, 5 speed for $4-$5k, then that would be ideal, but they dont seem to exist!


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Here are some... some ads are older and auto but less than 10k...

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That first 2000 looks really nice. I wouldn't go for one with a three inch body lift. The third one down says that the mileage is less than what is says because of the bigger tires, but technically wouldn't the mileage be more than what the odemeter says due to the bigger tires??
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It is at a dealer, i event tried offered $8k cash and they turned it down. They would not budge on that price even for cash!!

Ive checked ebay, craigslist, autotrader, carmax, bargainnews, and a few others and couldnt find any under $6500. Most of them were $8-10! using zip code 06111

If i spend 8-10, i have no more budget for the mods, so it seems like this is my best bet. If i could find a I6 1997 or newer, 5 speed for $4-$5k, then that would be ideal, but they dont seem to exist!


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DON'T believe that dealer one bit! There all hard up for cash now. That dealer did not pay anything close to the price he's asking. If he did not take 8K cash walk away. After 3-4 weeks of that jeep sitting on the lot, he'll change his tune. Right now he knows you like it, that's in his favor. He figures your emotions will roll over your good judgemant. Don't fall for it. There are plenty more jeeps out there! They made thousands! Wait for the perfect one. You already know deep down that this is to high, Otherwise you would not have asked this question. You are looking for some folks to say yeah, so you can feel somewhat good about paying this price. I promise you, they'll be another nice one just around the corner. Have patiance. Good luck!!!
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It is at a dealer, i event tried offered $8k cash and they turned it down. They would not budge on that price even for cash!!

Ive checked ebay, craigslist, autotrader, carmax, bargainnews, and a few others and couldnt find any under $6500. Most of them were $8-10! using zip code 06111

If i spend 8-10, i have no more budget for the mods, so it seems like this is my best bet. If i could find a I6 1997 or newer, 5 speed for $4-$5k, then that would be ideal, but they dont seem to exist!


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We are practically neighbors. What is that, Newington? I am in W. Hartford, 06110.

I dunno dude. I would just stay patient. I scoured the ads as well for about a month. Looked at about a dozen overpriced rust buckets that people wanted too much for. Finally, a guy put mine up on craigslist on a friday morning at 8. I was at his place by 9 and brought it home after getting cash at the bank at noon.

I think you need to be ready to jump on something. And also, it seems like it only just got nice around here, like summer just arrived. Everyone is gonna want top dollar as alot of people are looking to buy one too.

Heres mine as a comparison, that i got for 5k.
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2000 Jeep Wrangler Sport

2000 jeep wrangler sport

1999 JEEP WRANGLER TJ

1997 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 Sport 5spd

YJ deal of the day: this would be my pick..get a front 60 rear 14 bolt spring over...
1993 Jeep Wrangler 4x4

I actually went and looked at that 97. This was a month ago keep in mind. I specifically asked the lady if it had any rust, and she said no. I got there and walked away within two minutes. Surface rust all over the wheels, and heavier rot underneath, rusty bumpers too. And the "new" top was not so new and ripped.

Some of those other ones look to be pretty decent tho. Why not look at those, they aren't too far away?
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I think it is a nice jeep and is weel built but it has to many miles for the money even though the 4.0 is good well over 200,000 miles I just think for the money you could find a better deal. Trust me it took over 6 months of serching for my rig( just got a little over a week ago,and I should have pics on tomorrow after i get done with it,ill take before and after shots!) and the mods i have listed below is the stuff im doing tomarrow,BIG DAY for me, cant wait!!!
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I dunno dude. I would just stay patient. I scoured the ads as well for about a month. Looked at about a dozen overpriced rust buckets that people wanted too much for. Finally, a guy put mine up on craigslist on a friday morning at 8. I was at his place by 9 and brought it home after getting cash at the bank at noon.
What skinn said is about right.

Pretty much the same thing happened with me. Waited months just searching and searching till I found what I wanted. Unmolested, no rust, garage kept, low-mid mileage. Mine just popped up on craigslist and there it was in my parking lot not too long after.


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What skinn said is about right.

Pretty much the same thing happened with me. Waited months just searching and searching till I found what I wanted. Unmolested, no rust, garage kept, low-mid mileage. Mine just popped up on craigslist and there it was in my parking lot not too long after.
Are you from the new england area? As a reference for the original poster, what did you pay for that jeep? It looks very clean.
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Are you from the new england area? As a reference for the original poster, what did you pay for that jeep? It looks very clean.
That was 3 years ago in Texas and it KBBed for 9,500 when I bought it. I paid just a little more but I got full doors, Half doors (uppers also), white factory top, 3 sail cloth tops, one with tinted windows, and all the factory hardware for each top. I got lucky...a lot of money but with all the extras and it was practically a new jeep. I couldn't pass it up because I needed a vehicle and I didn't want to see someone else get the deal because all the other vehicles were either abused or over 15k.

There was only one thing wrong besides a factory recall on the wiring behind the cluster that he gave me the wires the dealership gave him to fix it. The sending unit was worn out and had to be replaced, it just was a quarter of a tank off.
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That was 3 years ago in Texas and it KBBed for 9,500 when I bought it. I paid just a little more but I got full doors, Half doors (uppers also), white factory top, 3 sail cloth tops, one with tinted windows, and all the factory hardware for each top. I got lucky...a lot of money but with all the extras and it was practically a new jeep. I couldn't pass it up because I needed a vehicle and I didn't want to see someone else get the deal because all the other vehicles were either abused or over 15k.

There was only one thing wrong besides a factory recall on the wiring behind the cluster that he gave me the wires the dealership gave him to fix it. The sending unit was worn out and had to be replaced, it just was a quarter of a tank off.
Sounds like a good deal. The tops are expensive. Mine only came with the hard top. I quickly discovered how much the tops go for.

I was fortunate enough to find a used viking sailcloth on craigslist.

I looked down south for my jeep also when i was in the market, in the south carolina area. My dad lives in Myrtle beach so i was willing to drive down there to get the jeep since i could also visit my father.

I found that jeeps there were even more. They were definetly cleaner and always rust free, but the prices reflected that plus some. And i figured people drive them top down year round, causing more of a demand. And people off road more in that area of the country, vs here.
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Sounds like a good deal. The tops are expensive. Mine only came with the hard top. I quickly discovered how much the tops go for.

I was fortunate enough to find a used viking sailcloth on craigslist.

I looked down south for my jeep also when i was in the market, in the south carolina area. My dad lives in Myrtle beach so i was willing to drive down there to get the jeep since i could also visit my father.

I found that jeeps there were even more. They were definetly cleaner and always rust free, but the prices reflected that plus some. And i figured people drive them top down year round, causing more of a demand. And people off road more in that area of the country, vs here.
Yea, I noticed coastal states they tend be more expensive.
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Yeah that seems a little steep to me, I have a 97 I got back in 07 and it had 95k on it, nothing special at all, just a 2.4L with a soft top but I only paid 5k for it. and I have 170k on it now and just replaced the Tranny on it. It has always been my experience that with extras like that they always seemed to be dogged out. although I guess there are some exceptions. I have put money into mine, not much though I have replaced the following: the top, the door windows, the battery, generator, serpentine belt and the Transmission and of course two sets of tires. One thing I used to sell cars and we "Always" marked up used cars a minimum of 3k. and I know for sure it's atleast that much on the one your looking at. Good luck it's a nice looker, hope it works out for ya.
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Most I'd pay is $7k for that if it was in GREAT running/driving condition.
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10k for 97 model and 160k+ miles?
Looks nice but negotiate or walk away. That is only my opinion.

I just got my 2000 Sahara with 33 tires crappy 3" body lift (easy to take off), fat 6" flares, new brakes, no leaking strong engine, with nice Pioneer stereo upgrade, ice cold AC, gastank armor, obviously upgraded wheels to fit those tires, full bikini top, soft top, and anaother top that covers the folded backseats(don't know it's name ) with 122k miles for $6800

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I got my 05 LJ with 52K miles for $8000 plus TTL. The Dealer took a hit with a big $2000 discount and offered me $5000 trade-in for my high mileage 99 TJ SE. They said at this point with the economy being bad, it's easier to sell a $5000 jeep, than a $15,000 jeep.

I'm sure the dealer with the 97 is feeling the crunch too. What you need to do is look at the value of the 97 without all the bells and whistles and guage whether or not it's worth buying. Modifications do nothing for Kelly Blue Book value...and the dealer knows this. Who ever traded the 97 in, didn't get credit for all the modifications. it's a good bet the dealer used the KBB value to low ball the customers trade-in. Talk 'em down, if not give them your number and tell them to call you when they change their mind.
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I bought a 97' SE with 64,400 miles end of 08', 4 cyl.( I wish it was a 6 cyl.) 5 speed. For $5000. The dealer wanted $6400 about 3 or 4 months earlier. It had the Canyon rims, a brush guard, and nerf bars. Other than that stock. Seams like way to many mile for the price.

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