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Old 03-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #1
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Graduation gift. Some advice appreciated.

My parents want to give me a grad gift and they wanna know what things I want for my Jeep. I would like some 30'-33' tires. What would y'all recommend we get? What kinds of tires and lift would y'all say are the best quality that can also save a few bucks? Where should we buy all the mods I want from? What website is best? Thanks everyone.

Ps. I am not a spoiled rich kid by the way. I've worked really hard my 4 years of high school and this is something my parents really wanna do.

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Old 03-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #2
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Well running 31's and 33's is different. What do you want to run and we'll go from there.

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Old 03-25-2013, 12:39 PM   #3
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X2 if you want to run 33" and you are currently stock and if you don't already have a super 35 kit, Dana 44, or ford 8.8. Your looking at around 3000 to 5500 to have it set up the right way. Which includes control arms, regearing, sye and driveshaft, and rear end to replace the Dana 35 if you haven't already. Plus you need to look into labor if you dont have the tools to do all the work yourself or the know how. Now those numbers are very conservative you can spend tons of money just to lift the thing 4 inches to run 33-35" tires. Now sure you can get away with a cheap 4" lift but why not do it right the first time and not worry about it later down the road. Hope this doesn't scare you into not doing what you want! It's just helpful advice and you might want to do a little bit of research if you haven't already. Goodrich and congrats.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:43 PM   #4
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When I bought my jeep shortly after I graduated last year the PO already had a lift and tires on it but was too much for my 4cyl. So for Christmas/graduation my dad got me new 33 km2s on blacked out mountain crawler rims and new seat covers( both were a little pricey though). Got my tires and rims from desert rat but took over a month since they were on back order, seat covers from quadratech. And to recoup some money I sold the 35bfg ats that were on when I bought it. As for a lift that is budget friendly what I see on here a lot is you can't go wrong with a zone lift. Hard to say what site is best to get mods from, mainly just gotta look around and check prices for a bit before pulling the trigger on something.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:00 PM   #5
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X2 if you want to run 33" and you are currently stock and if you don't already have a super 35 kit, Dana 44, or ford 8.8. Your looking at around 3000 to 5500 to have it set up the right way. Which includes control arms, regearing, sye and driveshaft, and rear end to replace the Dana 35 if you haven't already. Plus you need to look into labor if you dont have the tools to do all the work yourself or the know how. Now those numbers are very conservative you can spend tons of money just to lift the thing 4 inches to run 33-35" tires. Now sure you can get away with a cheap 4" lift but why not do it right the first time and not worry about it later down the road. Hope this doesn't scare you into not doing what you want! It's just helpful advice and you might want to do a little bit of research if you haven't already. Goodrich and congrats.
That's not true at all. You don't need half that stuff for 33's. First, the stock D35 can handle 33's very well, just nothing over that. And you can do a 2.5" lift with 1.25" bl and 1"mml instead of a 4" SL and avoid the sye/cv and adj. CA's.
I know this from experience. Ask anyone who runs 33's with a 2.5" lift and 1.25" bl.

To the OP, I know how you feel. My parents bought me my jeep when I was 15 and I've paid for all the mods on it. I don't come from money either and I appreciate the hell out of my jeep. I'm 20 now and I've still got it. If you want a good kit, check out dpgoffroad . com. A guy named Dirk runs it and he's very nice and knowledgable. I bought my lift from him (details of what's in it included below) it's everything you need to have a very nice set up on a budget. If you have any questions about anything in my lift or just in general, ask away.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:54 PM   #6
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That's not true at all. You don't need half that stuff for 33's. First, the stock D35 can handle 33's very well, just nothing over that. And you can do a 2.5" lift with 1.25" bl and 1"mml instead of a 4" SL and avoid the sye/cv and adj. CA's.
I know this from experience. Ask anyone who runs 33's with a 2.5" lift and 1.25" bl.

To the OP, I know how you feel. My parents bought me my jeep when I was 15 and I've paid for all the mods on it. I don't come from money either and I appreciate the hell out of my jeep. I'm 20 now and I've still got it. If you want a good kit, check out dpgoffroad . com. A guy named Dirk runs it and he's very nice and knowledgable. I bought my lift from him (details of what's in it included below) it's everything you need to have a very nice set up on a budget. If you have any questions about anything in my lift or just in general, ask away.
Rofl what I said there was, by all means not the only way to do it. And if he plans on doing any off roading I wouldn't recomend keeping the 35 especially if you put the money into it to regear. Why do it if you risk breaking it? Sure it won't happen at first or even ever but you have a higher risk. Plus even if you did the 2.5" and 1.25 bl your still doing 3.75 inches of lift lol. And I know people who run on stock suspension on 33". It can all be done.

Should have said all of that in my original post.
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Congrats bud; and it's awesome that your parents want to reward hard work...... Smart people creating good WORK ETHIC.

I can't, and won't, comment on others' setups but I'm running 33X12.5 goodyear duratracs, with a zone combo kit. I can't speak of the price/value of the wheels/tires because I bought all 5 almost brand new off a wrecked jeep; but they have good ratings, good on-road manners, and people seem to like them on the trails....and well, I like them.

On the subject of the lift (to safely go 33). People go red in the face on the subject but I don't think you don't necessarily need SYE/shaft if you do a 2.5/3" SL, 1-1.25" BL, and MML; as people here are saying. There's the one caviat that every jeep is different, but people have had luck with that combo. I think everything together, plus a JKS front track and nitro steering stabilizer was around 750; which would have been pretty spendy for me in high school, so if you want to run 33's, maybe your parents would consider chipping in for a lift? I see wheels/tires on craigslist all the time; I'd ask for a lift!
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:31 PM   #8
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Congrats man, I'm also in highschool and just recently picked up my jeep. My previous car was totaled by a kid who was texting and I bought both cars by saving and working hard for years so I know how that is. I currently am running 33x12.5 on a 2" spacer lift and they fit perfectly fine, I haven't off-roaded it yet but plan to
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:14 PM   #9
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Rofl what I said there was, by all means not the only way to do it. And if he plans on doing any off roading I wouldn't recomend keeping the 35 especially if you put the money into it to regear. Why do it if you risk breaking it? Sure it won't happen at first or even ever but you have a higher risk. Plus even if you did the 2.5" and 1.25 bl your still doing 3.75 inches of lift lol. And I know people who run on stock suspension on 33". It can all be done.

Should have said all of that in my original post.
I agree the 35 isn't the strongest thing out there. But I guess what I was getting at was there's multiple ways to do it. And not everything has to be done all at once. You don't need a new D44 rear end and 4.56's or 4.88's the same weekend you swap up to 33's. I wheel my 35 (granted mud is more forgiving than rocks) and it does just fine. I've got a '98 2.5L with 4.10's and it works just fine for what I do with my jeep. And 3.75" of total lift is plenty for 33's. It's essentially the same as 4".
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:44 PM   #10
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I agree the 35 isn't the strongest thing out there. But I guess what I was getting at was there's multiple ways to do it. And not everything has to be done all at once. You don't need a new D44 rear end and 4.56's or 4.88's the same weekend you swap up to 33's. I wheel my 35 (granted mud is more forgiving than rocks) and it does just fine. I've got a '98 2.5L with 4.10's and it works just fine for what I do with my jeep. And 3.75" of total lift is plenty for 33's. It's essentially the same as 4".
Yeah should have said that in my first post but you know how that goes. But yes their are tons of ways to do it. You could do a 4"bl (!!NOT RECOMMENDED!!) you could trim the fenders and run 33 without a lift, you could do a 2"bb lift and stuff them under the jeep (you'd rub but it can be done). Yes there are tons of ways to do it but I'm the kind who likes to get it all done at once and done right the first time and have it last. Pretty much my first sums up how I'd do it lol.
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Yeah should have said that in my first post but you know how that goes. But yes their are tons of ways to do it. You could do a 4"bl (!!NOT RECOMMENDED!!) you could trim the fenders and run 33 without a lift, you could do a 2"bb lift and stuff them under the jeep (you'd rub but it can be done). Yes there are tons of ways to do it but I'm the kind who likes to get it all done at once and done right the first time and have it last. Pretty much my first sums up how I'd do it lol.
Very true it's all up to the owner of the jeep in the end
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When I got my Jeep as a graduation present, it was completely stock knowing full well I was going to modify it. I say start with 31" and from there you can, which is where I started, and through hard work and saving up paychecks, I was able to make it my own. Did at least 4 years of research on everything from tires to the suspension lift, to other mods I could do on my own. Made me proud I did it without assistance from my parents
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:00 AM   #13
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31s are as easy as tossing on a new set of tires and are a nice improvement over stock.

33s? I would stay away from unless you are prepared for a lot of other enhancements. How many enhancements all depends on who you ask.

Also, how do you plan on using the Jeep? If it is your daily driver and you plan to drive often back and forth to school and work etc, 33s will be a hassle without gear upgrades etc.
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To the OP, before you decide what lift to install you need to pick a tire size. When choosing tire size you should take into account how your Jeep is already set up. Which motor do you have? What's you gear ratio? What type of driving? How much do you off-road and what type? Also when ever you change something it usually effects something else. Larger tires will effect fuel mileage, power, and handling among other things. What are you willing to live with? Anybody can lift a jeep and stuff big tires under it, the real money is spent refining it to something you can live with and enjoy. Dependability is a factor to. Not trying to preach just food for thought.
My son is 17 and a junior we bought him a Jeep for much the same reasons as your parents. Him and I spent several weeks fixing it up. It has 4.0l, 3.73 gears, 1" BL, and 31x10.5 Duratracs. Daily driver and weekend warrior. Terrible fuel mileage comparatively speaking but he loves it and works to put fuel in it.

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I would ask for a good set of tools instead of mods. I got a set of craftsman tools when I graduated (1984) that I am still using today. You will need a good set of tools for all future mods. IMHO. Congrats on your hard work accomplishment!
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I would ask for a good set of tools instead of mods. I got a set of craftsman tools when I graduated (1984) that I am still using today. You will need a good set of tools for all future mods. IMHO. Congrats on your hard work accomplishment!
That's a great idea for someone just starting out!
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Congrats on the hard work, I am also in high school (graduating this year) and I also work hard for my things, paid for my jeep and everything in it myself, I have 31's on mine because when I got it I didn't have enough money for the lift to run 33's, but I'm happy with the 31's, better for gas mileage too, if you're not too serious of an off-roader, then if you wanted to run 33's I'd say a budget boost 2 inch spacer lift with longer shocks too, should be fine for every day driving and the occasional off roading

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