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Old 06-22-2009, 05:50 PM   #1
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Question H2 more capable?

So today at work someone approaches me and says I don't have a respectable 4wd because because I have an 02' TJ Sport. He drives a stock Hummer H2 and was talking about how great it is. He said he has more ground clearance, full skid plates, and locking diffs. He also said he does rock crawling with his Hummer and its great for that. He claims his vehicle is way more capable than mine and mine is complete junk. He also told me that if I get the tailpipe underwater it will suck air into the engine because I told him I can cross water up to the top of the headlights and he said thats impossible because the exhaust will suck up water lol (and he calls himself an engineer lol). He also said the valves will suck in air. Apparently Lockers are the most important thing you can have offroad? The times I've been in my Jeep and my friends Ranger we did just fine without them (no where to rock crawl here but we did hit some pretty deep mud).

I thought it was kind of funny because I'm early 20's and going into my last year of college working at this job as an intern and he is a late 50 year old guy who is a project lead. I got the Jeep about 2 months ago because I've wanted one since I could drive and now can finally afford one. Right now the Jeep is stock until I get out of college and then I do plan on getting a new car as soon as I can and then putting a little money into the Jeep and keeping the miles off of it.

I don't hate Hummers but I don't view them like I would a Wrangler or Land Rover Defender for instance. Where I live there is no rock crawling unless you drive 3-4 hours. I mentioned that and he still said he doesn't respect my vehicle because its not a Rubicon. According to him there is an AM General off road training course he is going to and its too hardcore for my Jeep.

I've never personally seen a Hummer H2 off road. I've taken my Jeep off road a few times since I bought it and it performs fine for what I want it to do right now. To those of you who know anything about H2's please speak up and let me hear if any of this information is correct. I just always thought they weren't as capable as a Wrangler stock for stock. Please don't turn this into a Hummer bashing thread though.

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Looks for some pictures of mine and tell him I'll meet him anywhere in the country and we can play follow the leader.

They are not as capable as a stock wrangler. I don't believe they have as much ground clearance, they are much wider and that gives them a harder time in tight trails, the wheelbase also gives them issues.

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I met a guy in Anza Borrego that would tell how big a POS his Hummer is. Once we rolled his big hunk of junk off the trail we left him behind, forever!
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Looks for some pictures of mine and tell him I'll meet him anywhere in the country and we can play follow the leader.
I wanna play too! I'll bring my big tow strap so we can make sure to get him back to the dealership safely.
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I wanna play too! I'll bring my big tow strap so we can make sure to get him back to the dealership safely.
You will need extra tie rods for that.
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I wanna play too! I'll bring my big tow strap so we can make sure to get him back to the dealership safely.
You sir are a much kinder person than I.
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Thats funny the Wrangler is more capable because after it was all said and done he asked me to come up to Rausch Creek PA with him and his Hummer buddies If I wasn't afraid of breaking something... Shouldn't he have to worry more? I mean with that independent front suspension and all lol.
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Thats funny the Wrangler is more capable because after it was all said and done he asked me to come up to Rausch Creek PA with him and his Hummer buddies If I wasn't afraid of breaking something... Shouldn't he have to worry more? I mean with that independent front suspension and all lol.
Search around on YouTube. There are tons of Hummer videos showing just how "capable" they really are.
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HAHAHA h2!!! a friend of mine has a touareg v10 and his neighbor has an h2. the h2 guy said his hummer will outpower the vw(obviously not knowing the v10). we strapped the two together and then proceeded to tow this sad excuse of a hummer down the street as if it were a empty trailer. offroad give me a rubicon anyday.
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I've seen exactly 2 H2's off pavement.

I drove around one with a busted tie rod and waited 20 minutes for one to do a 30 point turn to head back to the asphalt (dude didn't want to scratch up his hummer).

Most of the ones I see around here have got 24's and chrome everywhere.
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I think the H3's a bit of a different story. I've a wheeled a few times with a friend of mine who has one, and I was very impressed... H2's are worthless though- great for picking up kids at soccer games and that's about it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:14 PM   #13
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Tell any Hummer (H2 or H3) owner to meet me on any of my local rock crawling trails and we'll go at it for pink slips.

About the only Hummers I see even on the easier rock crawling trails I take to get to the tougher trails are those sitting there with one of their two pencil-sized tie rods busted. The only H2 owners that think their H2s are good on tough rock crawling trails are those who have no idea what they're talking about and have have only bought into what they're told.

Hummers are fine on easy trails but they're way over their heads on anything any tougher than that.
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Yeah they'll be breaking tie rods all over the place. And yes you can make anything stronger with enough money.
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My wife's truck (notice the avoidance of ownership ) is the H3's twin brother packaged as a pickup. A.K.A the GMC Canyon. Same I5, same suspension. Different body and weights.

Wonderful little truck. I'd like to have the engine for my TJ (or the bigger LL8 I6 out of a Trailblazer)! gets better mileage and pulls just as hard.

Rocks and hard stuff? No way! Even if I lifted it and armored everything up, it would still be a turkey compared to even a stock jeep. It's good at what we do with it, not at what I do with my TJ.
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clearly this guy is a jackass.

here are some pics from rausch creek.

i may be stuck but i am not broken. and my tail pipe is under water.


another tailpipe under and no sucking in water for him either


submerged but not broken


up over the tires
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i got my jeep stuck in a swamp up to my front lights and left it running there for 15min untill i could get my buddys truck and get it out... and nothing happened
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Just smile and say "Thank You." Look at him with pity.

He feels foolish that he bought the thing, now he thinks insulting others justifies his stupidity.

But -- It is superior! It will hold more groceries than a short Jeep.
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stock tj blows away h2 or 3.

just look up hummer fail on youtube, you'll find jeeps saving them everytime.
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Just tell him - where do you want to go? Then say, "Lets go" and see how quickly he'll take his POS off the asphalt.
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great video

h2 midway through breaks a tie rod on tiny rocks. show him this video and he'll cry.
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Hey for the guys and gals that went up to the first WF meet and greet. Do you think this Hummer guy was one of the ones that we saw in the giant hummer club? They were a bunch of rich, stuck up snobs wheeling in golf shirts and drinking on the trail.
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Hey for the guys and gals that went up to the first WF meet and greet. Do you think this Hummer guy was one of the ones that we saw in the giant hummer club? They were a bunch of rich, stuck up snobs wheeling in golf shirts and drinking on the trail.
i'd put money on it that he was.
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I really don't think his Tahoe would do well on the trails.. I mean sure they might go over some landscape rocks okay.. but boulders the size of softballs might be too much for them.
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The H2 Hummer is little more than a Chevy Silverado with an oversized (and in my opinion ugly) body strapped on it. It has the same engine, same chassis, same transmission. Therefore, he is challenging your far superior TJ with a full size Chevy pickup.

Tell him that

Also: H2 SUCKS.
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Hey for the guys and gals that went up to the first WF meet and greet. Do you think this Hummer guy was one of the ones that we saw in the giant hummer club? They were a bunch of rich, stuck up snobs wheeling in golf shirts and drinking on the trail.
If I remember correctly there was the HOT brunette chick rocking the white H2?
I kinda love her....
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Yea, I didn't want to mention her. The one that got away...
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This is a quote from another forum and he stole it from yet another forum.

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Some friends went to Katemcy for their final weekend and snagged this pic off another forum. They said the entire trail all of them were attached to each other like children in kindergarden. Thought some of yall could use a laugh...

This is basically the same area we go to every year for the TX Spur JJ.
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HOly shit - is that water they are driving on top of?
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My wife's truck (notice the avoidance of ownership ) is the H3's twin brother packaged as a pickup. A.K.A the GMC Canyon. Same I5, same suspension. Different body and weights.

Wonderful little truck. I'd like to have the engine for my TJ (or the bigger LL8 I6 out of a Trailblazer)! gets better mileage and pulls just as hard.

Rocks and hard stuff? No way! Even if I lifted it and armored everything up, it would still be a turkey compared to even a stock jeep. It's good at what we do with it, not at what I do with my TJ.
Would that be the Canyonerooooooooooooooooo?

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