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Old 09-23-2011, 12:30 PM   #1
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Hack n Tap SYE

Been cruisin the net again and came across this kit online. Seems like a cool idea that is cheaper than your typical SYE. I guess that its supposedly weaker than a regular SYE, but has had good results (according to the site). Has anyone used and/or heard of these before? Seems like it would be something worth looking into for the weekend warrior/ budget builder.

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While they are "weaker" than what you get with a heavy-duty SYE kit, they are the same strength as the OE t-case output shaft (since it keeps/uses the OE t-case output shaft) which does not make it "weak". They shorten the OE t-case output shaft and they work fine, I've never heard of anyone having any problems with them. In fact, shortening the t-case shaft removes much of the leverage against it which makes it less prone to bending or breaking which to me, makes it stronger than stock. They even survive such notoriously tough wheeling locations as Johnson Valley.

If I was low on $$$ and needed a SYE kit, I'd have no problem going with a Hack 'n Tap and I wouldn't worry about it. If I was not short on $$$, I'd go with a SYE kit.
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While they are "weaker" than what you get with a heavy-duty SYE kit, they are the same strength as the OE t-case output shaft (since it keeps/uses the OE t-case output shaft) which does not make it "weak". They shorten the OE t-case output shaft and they work fine, I've never heard of anyone having any problems with them. In fact, shortening the t-case shaft removes much of the leverage against it which makes it less prone to bending or breaking which to me, makes it stronger than stock.

If I was low on $$$ and needed a SYE kit, I'd have no problem going with a Hack 'n Tap.
Ya that is what the site mentioned. Weaker in the sense that it uses the 27 spline shaft rather than a 30 spline shaft on a HD SYE.

I have been looking at alternative options for things...what are your thoughts on building a XJ front DS to work as a rear TJ DS?
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A front CV XJ DS works fine as a rear CV TJ DS after it has been shortened.
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A front CV XJ DS works fine as a rear CV TJ DS after it has been shortened.
Thanks. Thats what I thought I had seen...seemed like a possible solution.
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The Hack n' Tap is $119, and a SYE can be had for around $200?
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The Hack n' Tap is $119, and a SYE can be had for around $200?
I know they are relatively close in price. I wasnt necessarily getting one, but just researching. For some though, that 90 extra or more can be tough...especially if they need UCAs and a new DS.
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Got the hack/tap on my 97 TJ. Was on it when I purchased it. Got a 4.5 RE lift. I have run various trails in Nor-Cal (Fordyce, Rubicon, Barrett, etc) with no problems yet .AX-15, 4 to 1 transfer ratio, 456 gears, ARB lockers, 33" tires. I am easy on the gas, pick the easy lines when possible. If I have to replace TC will go with Atlas.
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Got the hack/tap on my 97 TJ. Was on it when I purchased it. Got a 4.5 RE lift. I have run various trails in Nor-Cal (Fordyce, Rubicon, Barrett, etc) with no problems yet .AX-15, 4 to 1 transfer ratio, 456 gears, ARB lockers, 33" tires. I am easy on the gas, pick the easy lines when possible. If I have to replace TC will go with Atlas.
Good to kno. Thanks for the input.
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I have heard hack and taps get badmouthed in the past and it has always confused me. More internet "crawling" type opinions? I have used a hack and tap on a previous Jeep and have the RE version with a Tom Wood DS on my current TJ. I have never had issue with either Jeep. I abused the YJ I had off road that had one and I never had an issue. Maybe I have just been lucky. Sure, the optimum solution would be a new, larger output shaft version. But, we are dealing with an NP231 in most cases, so I see no need to sink a lot of scratch into it. I have the same mindset as Rocky Bar on this one.
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I have heard hack and taps get badmouthed in the past and it has always confused me. More internet "crawling" type opinions? I have used a hack and tap on a previous Jeep and have the RE version with a Tom Wood DS on my current TJ. I have never had issue with either Jeep. I abused the YJ I had off road that had one and I never had an issue. Maybe I have just been lucky. Sure, the optimum solution would be a new, larger output shaft version. But, we are dealing with an NP231 in most cases, so I see no need to sink a lot of scratch into it. I have the same mindset as Rocky Bar on this one.

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