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Old 10-16-2012, 07:42 PM   #1
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Hard doors suck

I've been running the 2 piece soft doors since I got my jeep. It's getting cold so I finally put the hard doors on. It really makes the jeep crowded and I'm not a huge guy. It's not too bad with the window down but with it up there is nowhere to put my left arm! Oh well, guess it's something I'll have to get used to.

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I've been running the 2 piece soft doors since I got my jeep. It's getting cold so I finally put the hard doors on. It really makes the jeep crowded and I'm not a huge guy. It's not too bad with the window down but with it up there is nowhere to put my left arm! Oh well, guess it's something I'll have to get used to.
Get some half doors. Plenty more room for the elbows.

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Old 10-16-2012, 08:09 PM   #3
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After going doorless, I feel claustrophobic in anything with doors.
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Its been 50 degrees up here in Boston the past couple of mornings at 6am and with no doors on at 70mph, that is COLD... Nothing a winter coat and hat can't solve. I'm trying to make it to Thanksgiving without the doors, the Jeep just isn't as fun with them on.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:25 PM   #5
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #6
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I've been running the 2 piece soft doors since I got my jeep. It's getting cold so I finally put the hard doors on. It really makes the jeep crowded and I'm not a huge guy. It's not too bad with the window down but with it up there is nowhere to put my left arm! Oh well, guess it's something I'll have to get used to.
They make armrests for full doors...
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:25 AM   #7
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I've been thinking the same thing about my hard doors. No where to put your arm unless the window is open. Wife suggested the arm rests that attach where the handles on the doors are now. Think I'm going to make the purchase soon. Definitely less room in the jeep with the hard doors on but they sure do make for a more comfortable winter. Love my hard doors and would never get rid of them but an arm rest would be nice.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:49 AM   #8
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Its been 50 degrees up here in Boston the past couple of mornings at 6am and with no doors on at 70mph, that is COLD... Nothing a winter coat and hat can't solve. I'm trying to make it to Thanksgiving without the doors, the Jeep just isn't as fun with them on.
If it was just me I wouldn't care but driving the kids to daycare every day wouldn't be very nice when it's 40 degrees if I had no doors. The reason I switched to the hard doors is scraping the frost off the plastic windows really sucks!

I'll look into the arm rests, might make things a little better.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:43 AM   #9
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:44 AM   #10
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I think you will have difficulty tumbling your seat forward with arm rests.
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I think you will have difficulty tumbling your seat forward with arm rests.
How often do you tumble the seat forward with the doors closed?
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:11 AM   #12
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Anyone got a pic of these arm rests? I have the same issue as the OP
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:25 AM   #13
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Because I feel like being nice but for future reference, google is your friend

All Things Jeep - Black Full Door Armrests by Rugged Ridge for Jeep Wrangler TJ (1997-2006) or LJ (2004-2006)

I know this one says half door in the URL but the pic shows it on a full door

Rampage Half Door Arm Rests - JCWhitney
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:33 AM   #14
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I have them on my full doors. I'd take my half doors over them any day personally. They are nice to have some where to put your arm but they arent that wide. They also make it harder to roll down the window since the crank comes so close to the armrest. There it no problem tumbling the seats even if the door is closed. That is all.
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How often do you tumble the seat forward with the doors closed?
Good thought......I feel a little dumb now
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:27 PM   #16
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I've had the Rampage arm rests for 5 years and they are nice to have and look better than the cheap plastic straps. Misch also make some but are a lot more expensive.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:37 PM   #17
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Yeah !!! Specially when the SOB`s pinch your freaking fingers !!!!
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I have them on my full doors. I'd take my half doors over them any day personally. They are nice to have some where to put your arm but they arent that wide. They also make it harder to roll down the window since the crank comes so close to the armrest. There it no problem tumbling the seats even if the door is closed. That is all.
After all these years owning my '97 TJ I have to ask - Is the driver's seat supposed to tumble like the passenger seat does? I know I've tried it a few times but I couldn't figure it out. Duh.....

OK - I was inspired to go look at my driver's seat again. It will not tumble. No way. The seat back doesn't even fold forward past vertical. The mechanism to tumble is just not there.
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After all these years owning my '97 TJ I have to ask - Is the driver's seat supposed to tumble like the passenger seat does? I know I've tried it a few times but I couldn't figure it out. Duh......
My driver used to tumble and now it doesn't. I can't figure out why it stopped. PITA. You might be in same situation.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:30 PM   #20
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I have a 98 Sahara and both tumble, but you have to find the lever way down under the seat and push it down. Not that easy.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:31 PM   #21
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There's a loop that operates a cable inside the seat. It must have broken, or somehow come loose.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:18 PM   #22
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Obviously this is not on topc for this thread.

Fold and Tumble for the drivers seat was not installed on all models/years

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