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Old 01-21-2008, 11:51 PM   #1
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hard top lining?

my mother in laws hard top has a carpet like lining on the inside of it. I thought it might be a spray on application because it is so flawless and tight but there are seems in it where you can tell it was a cut to fit application. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? It makes the interior a little quieter and makes it feel warmer in the winter, not that I really care about any one of those things but if I could figure out how to do it, my wife sure would be appreciative.

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Old 01-22-2008, 05:19 AM   #2
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The bestop aftermarket hard top comes this way. I have been considering doing it for a few months now, but I think I will wait untill summer. Basically, your are going to either cut out a peice of cardboard to fit inside the top of the top, and spray headliner adhesive on it, and put on the headliner. Either that, or just clean the top real good and spray the adheisive on it, and put the carpet up without the cardboard. Most other vehicles use the cardboard, I think it helps with sound deadening and insulation, but I am not sure how you would get the cardboard to stay up there. Other vehicles use the A pillar/roof/C pillar trim to hold it up there.

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Old 01-22-2008, 08:12 AM   #3
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There are a few different ways to do it, first is have it done at an upholstery shop Second would be the fiber board backer with carpet on it, then you have to figure out to hold it up. Third, that would be with contact cement or a very strong spray on adhesive. You would have to lay the roof upside down and work on a section at a time, a steamer would come in handy and my guess is that the companies that do this have a reverse form that they steam and form the carpet over just like for the floors. The seams you are seeing may be sewn from the backside before the liner was installed.
I have not searched but it would not surprise me if there were already preformed carpet liners for the jeep hard tops, either one piece of with preformed pieces you glue and stick on. But thats just a guess, thats a big market with alot of bare tops to just ignore.
I used to work for a van customizer back in the late 70's and he had some of this stuff including the steamer, we used to make steam formed carpets for the dog house engine covers and used a brush on adhesive, contact cement, on both the cover and the back of the carpet, once that stuff dried and contacted that was it. The carpet was not just normal house carpet either, it had a more solid backing kind of like rubber or foam. Next time you are at home depot look at the runner carpet that comes in 2 or 3 ft wide rolls for doing steps, look at the back and you will see what I mean.
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What about herculiner or some other heavy duty similar paint? (i think thats what it was called)
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:15 AM   #5
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I think herculiner would be too heavy and serve no purpose to help with insulation, maybe road noise though.
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What about herculiner or some other heavy duty similar paint? (i think thats what it was called)
I was going to ask about that. Do you guys think it would stick good if you roughed up the surface a bit? Or at least spray paint. The white interior of mine is getting awfully nasty.
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It would work (I have painted a hard top inside and out when I worked at a restoration shop) but the liner would be too heavy. You all don't realize how heavy bedliner really is. We used to put tar paper down in the Rhino Lining booth, so you can replace the floor easily every few months. Long story short, we forgot to replace it for over a year, and it was about an inch think. We had to cut sections out with a sawzal, and use a Bobcat to grab the 6ftx5ft sections....

How many of you all with the newer style hard tops already have the sagging problem? I don't think bedliner would be a good idea....

Retrofiting headliner wouldn't be too hard, but bedliner I think I would stick away from..
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Thanks for the feedback on the Hercu..
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Thanks, Neil F. that is pretty close to what I was talking about.
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Thats a good write up, I am curious though, what can you use to really clean and degrease the inside of a fiberglass top without melting the fiberglass or glass coat or whatever the final finish is on them. I wonder what they use on corvette bodies before they paint them, they have to wipe them down with something.
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I believe you they make fiberglass cleaner for like bathrooms and kitchens, you can probably use that.
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I believe I used acetone after sanding, before painting, when I painted a hard top a few years ago. No ill-effects from the acetone that I heard of.

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