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Old 02-03-2008, 03:44 PM   #1
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Hardtop/Softtop Switching

Just bought a 2002 Sahara that has the factory hardtop. I want to purchase a softtop that I can put on in the warmer months and then easily switch back to the hardtop when it cools off. Will using the aftermarket tops from Pavement Ends or Bestop present any issues when switching back to the hardtop? Would I be better off paying extra for an OEM softtop? I don't mind spending the extra money if it will make it easier to switch between the tops. Thanks for any info anyone can provide.

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Bestop makes the OEM tops. If you don't have factory hardware/frame you'll need the whole setup which is their Supertop. Never used one but the hardward/frame is totally different setup than OEM. Regardless, use of any major brand ST will not affect how you switch out your HT. The soft top skin remains attached to the frame and the whole thing comes off when you put on the HT.

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Old 02-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #3
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yup ^^ just amke sure you get all the harware liek the door surrounds and the rear windshield bracket, most tops dont come with either of those, so looking for a slightly used top with al the hardware and then getting a new skin for it amy be the best bet, plus if you find a nice seller they may help to show you how to install it which will be worth a lot if you've never installed a soft top before
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:31 PM   #4
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Its almost time to take my hard top off and put the soft top on, something ive never done before. Hope its easy to figure out
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:53 PM   #5
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I just have a hard top.

My solution: No doors and no top and I have a waterproof car cover. Problem: My car cover isn't really waterproof thus the reason for my flooded interior.

Reality: Driving without a top and doors in the winter is NUCKIN' FUTS!!!! But hey, it's still o so fun.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:07 PM   #6
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Why isnt it waterproof? Im going to get the Quadratec all weather cover, it says its water PROOF not just resistant and keep that on over night.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:19 AM   #7
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^

For some reason, it was waterproof. But after the second storm, it lost its waterproofability.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:46 AM   #8
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I'd get the viking top as that doesnt need the frames (uses the roll bar as a frame) however you will still need the door surrounds.

http://vikingoffroad.com/viking_fastback.html

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Old 02-04-2008, 01:48 AM   #9
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Oooooo now that I like ^^^^
The PITA about soft tops is the frame for me, with the top down I dont want the frame there but I need to be able to put it up when I have to but dont want to carry the frame around.
I like the viking top idea alot
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"The Viking Fast Back soft top has been placed on temporary production hold due to a manufacturing issue."
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Might want to give them a call and see whats up with pricing.
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For the soft top when it did not have one you will need some items, first is the OEM frame, two brackets that attach to the roll cage behind the seats, door surrounds and there is a bar in the bottom of the rear window, that attaches to two brackets that mount on either side of the tailgate on the body itself.
Best bet is to look at a factory soft top with full doors and see it with your own eyeballs. I'm making an assumption that the surrounds for both the half doors and the full doors are the same but they may not be. The surrounds will also have two bolts each that screw into the roll cage bars, they have big hand grip knobs so if you find surrounds make sure they have them, they are held in with a capture nut so they should not come out but I have seen some for sale at swap meets that did not have them. I think thats it, check on craigs list, I've seen a few for sale, some never used when the owner ordered a dual top and never took the hard top off, that one though will be missing the two brackets that attach on roll cage behind the seats and the two brackets that attach for the rear soft window. Be aware that the bar in the rear window comes in two sizes so make sure if you get the bar you get the correct brackets, 97 had small ones that won't fit the newer bars they used in 98 onward.
I have had a few aftermarket soft tops and did not like them, I prefer the factory OEM one, one of the aftermarket ones used some funky header that went on the windshield and would not snap on and off as easily as the factory one but it only cost me $50 complete and we had just rolled and repaired one of ours so it was a good deal, I sold it a month later once I got the bucks for a factory setup.
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i have a bestop supertop for mine. it came with it but if i got to choose id find an oem softop. they look a little nicer the doors on mine just butt up against the top and a flap goes over the top of the door. the oem tops have a channel that the doors fit in.
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switching tops

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Its almost time to take my hard top off and put the soft top on, something ive never done before. Hope its easy to figure out
Switching is not hard...time consuming first time! My 98 came with a hard top when I got it last summer. Within the week I had the top off and ran it open for a week. Did the suncap plus and cab cover till the temp started dropping below 40F. Used HT till Jan when I broke down and bought a Supertop. Haven't regretted it yet. First time down required rereading the manual. Now it takes about 10 min to put up or down. With the unusually warm temps I am getting lots of practice and really love the new top. Good luck!
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #14
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I like that Viking Top...they tout how great it is to stow and store the windows which I think is an awesome Idea, but how is it when you want to go topless, the frame allows for a place to conveiniently store the top and the ability to quickly reinstall.

The Viking top has the idea of storing the windows down pat it appears, but when you go topless, if you don't leave the top at home in your garage, is it just in a huge ball taking up space in the rear of your jeep?

From reading the website, I think it would be great for someone that does not intend to ever go topless, or intends to go topless for multiple days without re-topping. I do like the Fastback look though. I saw a fastback hardtop for the new JK's on ebay, it looked supersweet, very expensive though...
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Im diggin' that top! Im going to keep my eyes on these guys.
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i would personally look for an OEM top...03+. they are better made than 97-02 tops. i recently put a brand new OEM top from an 06 rubicon on my 97 and it is a perfect fit and much better than my 02 OEM top was on my 02 TJ.

i found mine on Craigslist locally for $400 and came with everything...door surrounds, frame, canvas, tinted windows, hardware, etc.
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Loo, all the soft tops are like that, they all store in the back right behind the rear seat so you end up having a "trunk lid"
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I know that, but the Viking appears to not use the OEM frame, just drapes over the rollbar, so there would be nothing to fold it back onto, thus, the balling issue. Plus if there is no frame physically attaching it to the Jeep, it would be easier for someone to walk away with it if you were storing it in your vehicle incase of a sudden downpour.

Also, I think that many on here would agree that if it weren't for the frame guiding the softtop down, it would probably be balled up and tossed in as opposed to neatly folded as the frame helps with.
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I want that top!!!!

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