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Old 12-05-2012, 05:47 PM   #1
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Hella E Code Headlight Replacement

Ordered a Hella E Code light kit and wiring harness from Susquehanna MotorSports. Should be here tomorrow. My question is about the wiring harness. I have read on the forums that it is plug an play but i am wondering from others that have installed new wiring harnesses: what is the best way to run the wiring, tips etc.... Want to make sure it is right.


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What wiring harness did you get? The H4/ 9003 bulbs are "plug and play" with the stock TJ harness/ plug, unless you're going way up in wattage.

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I use H4/9003 with no harness... complete PNP....

as stated.. unless you are upping the wattage... no need for the harness.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:44 PM   #4
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I did, however, replace my headlight plugs, as the originals had gotten hot (dirty terminals= increased resistance=heat) and were slightly melty and cracked. I found some nice (really!) ceramic plugs on ebay.
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as stated.. unless you are upping the wattage... no need for the harness.

A wiring harness not only allows the use of higher wattage bulbs but it also maximizes the light output of any setup ... OEM, H4 or H4 w/higher wattage bulbs. It's not really about need. There is no need for H4 housings either. The OEM sealed beams put out legally/practically adequate light.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:39 PM   #6
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Just last night I just switched my sealed beam's with hella E codes and standard watt h4's.

the E codes are so far superior to the sealed beams, it's night and day. Best $70 i've spent in a long time.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:52 AM   #7
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I ordered the Hella E-Code Headlamp housing and Hella 60/55w Hallogen H4 bulbs on Amazon Prime shipped free. Headlamps were $37 and bulbs were 7.65 for the Premium Long Life bulb. I am not upgrading harness yet until I see how much more light these give off than my stock. From all the threads in the forum, it should be very noticeable. If I can see at all at night, it will be noticeable.
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Re: Hella E Code Headlight Replacement

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I ordered the Hella E-Code Headlamp housing and Hella 60/55w Hallogen H4 bulbs on Amazon Prime shipped free. Headlamps were $37 and bulbs were 7.65 for the Premium Long Life bulb. I am not upgrading harness yet until I see how much more light these give off than my stock. From all the threads in the forum, it should be very noticeable. If I can see at all at night, it will be noticeable.
You will see a noticeable change in you light output. I love my hellas and will be wiring them with an appropriate harness soon.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:53 PM   #9
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I am pretty happy with the hella e-codes. I ended up putting in HID bulbs/kit. Huge improvement. I had the same problem, could barely even tell the stock headlights were on if i didn't see the reflection in the next car's bumper.

But if I had it to do over I would probably just put in some H4 bulbs. The HID harness is not easy to work with. Some wires don't reach where they should, some are too long, i am still trying to route everything so it doesn't look like a rats nest under my hood.
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I would run halogens in your ecodes. I'd go Osram 85w ish. The wiring harness probably will start at your battery, to a couple relays, then to your passenger side headlight. Then run the cables through the grill to the drivers side light and headlight switch. It shouldn't be bad at all. I built my harness and can show you pics if that helps at all.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:02 AM   #11
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see that is the problem with the harness. It looks like it were designed as if the battery was on the driver side, then you route up to the driver side first, then over to the passenger side. All the wire lengths seem to be opposite how the jeep is set up.

I have the harness ran decently, I just gotta figure out where/how to mount the big ass ballasts now.

Either way though, next time I am going halogens, they are far easier. Only reason I tried the HID's is because halogen's by design WILL burn out far quicker since it burns the filament to produce light. Filament gets thinner over time, and eventually something as simple as hitting a pothole will break the filament. HID design lasts longer.

Then again, a lot of HID's are not DOT compliant. So you have to be careful unless your rig is a purely off road toy anyway. So again I am just getting halogen bulbs next time.
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Thyere is a functional reason we don't run HID conversions in E-code housings or DOT housings. Read about it here:

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Thyere is a functional reason we don't run HID conversions in E-code housings or DOT housings. Read about it here:

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
I haven't yet read that, but I can assure you that E-code housings were designed for H4 bulbs and they're exact filament and reflector placement inside the bulb.
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I have the ecodes and HIDs in them and I haven't had any problem with the . They have a good cut off line so you could adjust them so they won't blind other drivers passing you
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I'm very happy with the light from the HID E-Code combo actually. Works great if you tilt em down slightly below level. My only problem is I got a defective ballast or bulb. Passenger side is on hi when vehicle switch is on lo beam and vice versa.

That and the harness. It's plug and play, but with the wire lengths you have to modify it if you want a clean looking install. I would suppose you have the same problem with any HID kit. So if these HID's don't last as long as I have the jeep, I am replacing them with H4 bulbs. It's just sooooo much easier.
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And if you are considering getting HIDs, go with Kensun. They are very good quality and have a 2 year warranty. I haven't had any problems with mine
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You will see a noticeable change in you light output. I love my hellas and will be wiring them with an appropriate harness soon.

I received the package today from Amazon. Both new E Code Hella Headlamps and Long Life H4 bulbs. The Hella box says that the housings are NOT DOT certified, however the description of the product on Amazon's site says the ones I ordered were.

If anyone is knowledgeable, here is the link to the actual part I purchased: HELLA 002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp : Amazon.com : Automotive. In the Product Features it states "Conforms to SAE/DOT standards for street and highway use". So when the package says otherwise, what should I believe? I believe the package as the housing has no markings saying DOT. I went with the standard 60/55w H4 bulb to not blind people as recommended in several places here. I don't need a ton of light and will use my aux lights offroad for that.

I plan to put them in this weekend and will let you know how it goes.
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I was curious about that myself. I would go with what packaging from Hella says, Amazon product info isn't always correct.

Plus they are not stamped DOT so I would say probably not but you can always contact Hella and inquire about it.
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I received the package today from Amazon. Both new E Code Hella Headlamps and Long Life H4 bulbs. The Hella box says that the housings are NOT DOT certified, however the description of the product on Amazon's site says the ones I ordered were.

If anyone is knowledgeable, here is the link to the actual part I purchased: HELLA 002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp : Amazon.com : Automotive. In the Product Features it states "Conforms to SAE/DOT standards for street and highway use". So when the package says otherwise, what should I believe? I believe the package as the housing has no markings saying DOT. I went with the standard 60/55w H4 bulb to not blind people as recommended in several places here. I don't need a ton of light and will use my aux lights offroad for that.

I plan to put them in this weekend and will let you know how it goes.
After breaking out the package, I determined I ordered the Motorcycle version of the Hella (Part Number 47076) and needed to order Hella Vision Plus (Part Number 47077). Sending these back and getting the Right ones. The clue was when I opened the package, it stated Motorcycle installation and another warning "not for use on cars or offroad vehicles certified for use on highways".

Live and learn, I suppose. If anyone else wants to order, the correct Amazon part is this one: HELLA 002395301 Vision Plus 176mm High/Low Beam 12V Halogen Conversion Headlamp (HB2) : Amazon.com : Automotive. Actually this one was $1 cheaper so just a swap for me. They are now due in Friday.
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After breaking out the package, I determined I ordered the Motorcycle version of the Hella (Part Number 47076) and needed to order Hella Vision Plus (Part Number 47077). Sending these back and getting the Right ones. The clue was when I opened the package, it stated Motorcycle installation and another warning "not for use on cars or offroad vehicles certified for use on highways".

Live and learn, I suppose. If anyone else wants to order, the correct Amazon part is this one: HELLA 002395301 Vision Plus 176mm High/Low Beam 12V Halogen Conversion Headlamp (HB2) : Amazon.com : Automotive. Actually this one was $1 cheaper so just a swap for me. They are now due in Friday.
Vision plus are different from ecodes however. Ecodes meet European standards, not DOT
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The first ones you got were E-code, non DOT. The ones in the second link are not E-codes.
I personally prefer the E-code housings. You just need to decide what you want. Er, I guess you already did.
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I have had my e-codes on a few weeks now. Bright as hell. ut just aim them right. No cops have pulled me over yet though, and they are kind of anal in the norfolk area.
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Vision plus are different from ecodes however. Ecodes meet European standards, not DOT
I appreciate the continuous education on this forum. So, I end up with Vision Plus that are Not E-Code lights and that makes sense to me now. Regardless, the article I was pointed to in another thread stated these were the easiest to install, had the best high and low beam rating so I went with that.

Lights are due tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the feedback and the continuing education. You guys are great!

btw, the link to the article from the other thread is Jeep Headlight Shootout - Jp Magazine.
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I appreciate the continuous education on this forum. So, I end up with Vision Plus that are Not E-Code lights and that makes sense to me now. Regardless, the article I was pointed to in another thread stated these were the easiest to install, had the best high and low beam rating so I went with that.

Lights are due tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the feedback and the continuing education. You guys are great!

btw, the link to the article from the other thread is Jeep Headlight Shootout - Jp Magazine.
So Frustrated now. Lights came in today and were completely wrong! They were 4 3/4" add-on lamps, not 7" as described or pictured. I am frustrated with Amazon at this point. I now will look for another source or maybe I should just reorder what I originally had with the E-Codes. grrrrrr
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This is my third try with the following from Amazon - HELLA 002395071 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp with Position Lamp : Amazon.com : Automotive. Glad I am not in a rush... Saving money is hard sometimes.
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I got mine from Streetside Auto, $33 bucks apiece, free shipping.
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This is my third try with the following from Amazon - HELLA 002395071 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp with Position Lamp : Amazon.com : Automotive. Glad I am not in a rush... Saving money is hard sometimes.
What is the "position lamp"? Is that a city light?
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This is my third try with the following from Amazon - HELLA 002395071 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp with Position Lamp : Amazon.com : Automotive. Glad I am not in a rush... Saving money is hard sometimes.
Send those back and order Bosch E codes from BusDepot. $45 for the pair and from everything I have read the Bosch units are superior to Hella anyway. Second only to Cibie. I can't link from my phone but do some searching there is allot of info on here and Jeep Forum about H4's..
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Re: Hella E Code Headlight Replacement

I got mine from Susquehanna Motorsports. They are in PA and ground shipping took 2 day to SC.

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=350


Not sure how those Bosch ecodes are but I love my hellas.

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