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Old 09-02-2011, 11:24 PM   #1
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Hella headlight replacements--- anybody run them?

Looking at the Hella replacement headlights....

Any difference between the ECE and SAE standards?

anybody tell me their personal experiences? Pros and Cons?

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Old 09-02-2011, 11:25 PM   #2
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IMO anything is better than those stock seal beams.

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Old 09-02-2011, 11:33 PM   #3
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IMO anything is better than those stock seal beams.
Im in 110% on board with ya! Just want to get a good feel for these... or the KC's ... but leaning toward Hella's to match all my lighting...
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:34 AM   #4
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I opted for Sylvania Silverstars, very happy with them.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:54 AM   #5
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ECE or e-code are european/international standard. The have a sharp cutoff of light. Many of us with HIDs use them.

From Headlamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Low beam

Low beam (dipped beam, passing beam, meeting beam) headlamps provide a distribution of light designed to provide adequate forward and lateral illumination with limits on light directed towards the eyes of other road users, to control glare. This beam is intended for use whenever other vehicles are present ahead. The international ECE Regulations for filament headlamps[5] and for high-intensity discharge headlamps[6] specify a beam with a sharp, asymmetric cutoff preventing significant amounts of light from being cast into the eyes of drivers of preceding or oncoming cars. Control of glare is less strict in the North American SAE beam standard contained in FMVSS / CMVSS 108.[7]

[edit] High beam
ECE high/main beam
Symmetrical high beam illumination of road surface

High beam (main beam, driving beam, full beam) headlamps provide a bright, centre-weighted distribution of light with no particular control of light directed towards other road users' eyes. As such, they are only suitable for use when alone on the road, as the glare they produce will dazzle other drivers. International ECE Regulations permit higher-intensity high-beam headlamps than are allowed under North American regulations.[8]

[edit] Compatibility with traffic directionality
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:26 AM   #6
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Thanks for taking the time to post that up! I appreciate it!
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:51 PM   #7
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I have them and they work very well for the price. I also like that they do not have a plastic lense on them. Mine are the DOT verisons and also have a nice sharp cutoff.
With my stock lights I could not tell they were on unless it was really dark and no other light out. Amazing they can leave the factory like that.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:06 PM   #8
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Hella E-codes are very nice, especially with good bulbs. I've had mine since 2005 and have been pleased, especially with the sharp cutoff - I can pull up on someone at night and NO light comes through their rear window, it's all on the back edge of their trunk lid. rallylights.com has these at a good price.

The E-code lamps from Cibie are also extremely good based upon the reports and nighttime illumination pictures I've seen of those, though I haven't run those. daniel stern lighting is a good source for the Cibie lamps.

If you do the light upgrade, use high-quality bulbs, not whiz-bang "super white" or "looks blue" bulbs, which rather defeat the purpose of upgrading your reflector. Daniel Stern's site has a brief write-up on the subject that is probably worth looking at before you buy overpriced-but-crappy "premium" bulbs...
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I had the Hella Lamps on my YJ for 20 years, because I bought my first Jeep in Germany and the crappy seald beam lights are illegal there. They where absolutely great

On my TJ I got lights from AUTOPAL with H4 145 / 100 watt bulbs. They convert night into day




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Old 09-03-2011, 05:24 PM   #10
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Thanks all... great reviews!!!! these are the ones I am looking at.... they have the H4 bulbs.....

Hella Part 002395991 - 7"" Round High/Low Beam Headlamp ECE

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So far, I have the factory lights but put hellas on as fog lights, i now run them full time for better vision, they are bumper mounted. Really saw the difference on a rainy night in the mountains last week. Could have used a candle OEM's then lit up the Hella's. I now call them driving lights not fog lights.
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Here's my post from just a few weeks ago on Hella lights.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tj-h...nt-107693.html
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Here's my post from just a few weeks ago on Hella lights.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tj-h...nt-107693.html
Thanks for the link!
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You're quite welcome. Glad to be a contributing member here. Note my Hella's were the DOT approved lights and NOT the E-codes. Lot's of guys like the E-codes for various reasons, but I have local police to deal with.

Hope you enjoy your new lights, which ever version you choose.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:00 PM   #15
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Well.... I am lucky that our PD is not that bad... they do get on their kicks every now and then though.... speed traps are the worst right now... just after Burning Man... BURNERS EVERYWHERE!!!

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