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Old 11-07-2011, 01:37 PM   #1
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help, i think i got the wrong speakers

i think i might have just wasted some money buying these 4x6 pioneer speakers because on the box it says it compatible with GM mercedes and VW. would these still work for the front speakers in my jeep?

thats what i get for buying something out of impulse because i frustrated with the buzzing sound they were making

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you might be ok. You might just need a set of speaker adapters. I found mine on E-bay for $8.

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Old 11-07-2011, 01:46 PM   #3
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cool ill check that out, btw does anyone else have Pioneer speakers are they any better than stock?
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:53 PM   #4
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I think just about anything is better than stock...
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You will need an adapter bracket to get the 4x6 to fit properly, you can also go to a 5.25 but those tend to require cutting.

I had pioneer 4x6's in mine before i upgraded .. check out my install for tips

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the pioneer 4x6 sounded decent, better than stock at least. I would get some low frequency bypass filters to keep them from distorting on deep lows, also with the dash the way it is insulating behind them helps a lot. I did boom mats but you can just take some old fiberglass insulation or even the cotton out of a pillow and stuff it directly behind the speaker and it will help some.

do you have a soundbar or just the front speakers?
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cool, yea i dont really know much about audio where could i get those filters? i think that was the problem during low bass the speakers would buzz alot , and no i just have the stock sound bar.
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you can get the low pass filters at walmart, they are super cheap, and i would pull the speakers out of the soundbar and put padding in that too. it helped with mine a lot
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Amazon.com: Scosche Xohp High-Pass Crossover: Car Electronics

this is the filter, high pass not low pass sorry
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thanks a lot man good info! i appreciate it. & these pioneer speakers are 130 watts is that more than the stock ones?
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I'm going with the polk db series as they are marine grade so should handle the weather better.

2-way 6 1/2 in the sound bar and component setup for the dash. The tweeter install should be interesting.
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With the small interior size of a Jeep, I just can't see much use for an amp and sub. I mean, I love the serious crash and boom that you can get from such a setup and I have a pretty decent setup in my car, but with just the Pioneer Supertuner and newer Infinity speakers in front and sound bar, I think my stuff sounds pretty good AND clear with out those extras.

Maybe some day though.
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thanks a lot man good info! i appreciate it. & these pioneer speakers are 130 watts is that more than the stock ones?
I believe so, yes
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I'm going with the polk db series as they are marine grade so should handle the weather better.

2-way 6 1/2 in the sound bar and component setup for the dash. The tweeter install should be interesting.

exact setup i'm going with...
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With the small interior size of a Jeep, I just can't see much use for an amp and sub. I mean, I love the serious crash and boom that you can get from such a setup and I have a pretty decent setup in my car, but with just the Pioneer Supertuner and newer Infinity speakers in front and sound bar, I think my stuff sounds pretty good AND clear with out those extras.

Maybe some day though.
I agree, I have an amp but no woofer, the only reason I went the amp route was to get a more solid power supply to the Infinity's, it seemed to help with the lows and clarity.
The PO had gone to some extensive work to rig up a couple amps, a crossover, a 10 disc changer, and a box of rockford fosgates. Which is fine if your into that kinda stuff, but the front speakers, soundbar speakers, and woofers were all diff brands and didn't seem to play well, plus I really like having the cargo/utility space of the back
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I'm going with the polk db series as they are marine grade so should handle the weather better.

2-way 6 1/2 in the sound bar and component setup for the dash. The tweeter install should be interesting.
I just put in POLK's all around and I can't say I am entirely happy with them. I have alpine and infinity in my Truck and the clarity is much, much better. I also went for them because of the marine grade and I may also have an issue with my head unit---it is a sony the original owner put in a long time ago---I am going to replace this and see if I can get better sound out of the polks. They get high reviews everywhere so it may just be my ear doesn't like them. It may also just be that I am used to my truck which has an amp, two 10's and a tighter enclosed cab.

I did the 6.5 in the sound bar and 5 1/4 in the front with the brackets and cut the dash support bar to get them to fit. Please report back if you go with the Polks and let me know how you like them. I should have the new head unit in on Wednesday and I am hoping that will make the difference. If not I may amp them just to get the best possible sound without going overboard.
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exact setup i'm going with...
I only got the speakers for the sound bar for now (the components were a bit pricey). they should come in today and I'll install this week at some point.

I also have to check to make sure I can mount the tweeters from the components into the existing tweeter mounts on the top of the dash. Not sure how that is going to play out.
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I only got the speakers for the sound bar for now (the components were a bit pricey). they should come in today and I'll install this week at some point.

I also have to check to make sure I can mount the tweeters from the components into the existing tweeter mounts on the top of the dash. Not sure how that is going to play out.
lol..i got mine friday..waiting on the speaker adapters which arrive today. components will be bought next..let me know how the tweeter mounting goes..i was just thinking of on the dash in the space by the a pillar.
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I'm going with the polk db series as they are marine grade so should handle the weather better.

2-way 6 1/2 in the sound bar and component setup for the dash. The tweeter install should be interesting.

This is my current set-up along with 5.5s in the front. I have no complaints at all. 100x better than stock, the bass is good especially with the electronic music I play.
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lol..i got mine friday..waiting on the speaker adapters which arrive today. components will be bought next..let me know how the tweeter mounting goes..i was just thinking of on the dash in the space by the a pillar.
you guys playing with the tweeter placements...
The infinity Kappas I installed have the rotating center tweeter so I have played around with directionals, so far what I've found works the best is forward facing (obviously because they are mounted center speaker) aimed down and away, towards the doors. With the doors open or off it sounds really good and it doesn't get over pitchy or have a highs reverb like it does when facing up or inwards. You want to make sure not to aim the tweets at your head or it can get really annoying.
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I went with the Marine grade Polks in a 4.1 setup. 4x6s in the dash (which are actually not oval, a 4" round woofer at the bottom and a .75" tweeter on top in the left over space). 5.25" in the speaker pods. I wasn't worried about going bigger in either location, maybe if I were pushing them through a decent amp, but not off just the head unit.

I really miss not having a sub, when I am forced to be without one. I get around the loss of a sealed cab by placing the sub to fire directly into the back of the driver seat. This may sound like a wierd setup, but it is perfect for me.

When I installed the new Polk sub, replacing a great JL (great quality except for the foam surround), I noticed the padding/filling in the box and I have been meaning to do the same with the speaker pods. It's interesting to see that others have thought of/done the same here.
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Anyone replaced the factory tweeters that are on the dash? I have a 2012 not sure what the others are like.

What's the procedure for doing this?
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Ok. I put the new polls in the soundbar and already it sounds amazing. Can't wait to replace the dash speakers.
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Ok. I put the new polls in the soundbar and already it sounds amazing. Can't wait to replace the dash speakers.
That is crazy, I replaced my head unit last night and everything still sounds terrible. I can't imagine how you can say it is amazing and mine is terrible when we have the same speakers, confusing.
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Well for starters yours and my definitions of amazing and terrible may not be the same.

That being said, it could be a head unit difference. Is it possible that some of the settings on your head unit are not where they should be? I know that when I get a new head unit, I'm quick to start mucking around w/ the different setting and sound options. I usually end up screwing it up so bad that I have to reset the head unit to factory settings and then take my time tweaking each setting as I go, paying attention to the differences in sound.

I may be showing my age but stereos are a lot smarter, and hence a lot more complicated, than they were when I started about 20+ years ago. In the "old" days, you had balance, fade, treble, and bass. Today I there are some many little tweaks that you can make to the sound that it's very easy to change a setting that doesn't play nicely w/ the particular speaker configuration you're using.

I'm not saying that's what you did, just saying that it's a possiblity as I've done that myself. If you think that could be an issue, suggest you reset head unit back to factory defaults and go from there.

I'm sure between all of the members on this forum, someone will be able to figure out what's going on with your sound.
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Ok. I put the new polls in the soundbar and already it sounds amazing. Can't wait to replace the dash speakers.

Polks, not polls. Geez, sounds like I'm setting up a strip club in my Jeep. On second thought, that kinda sounds like a good idea.
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Well for starters yours and my definitions of amazing and terrible may not be the same.

That being said, it could be a head unit difference. Is it possible that some of the settings on your head unit are not where they should be? I know that when I get a new head unit, I'm quick to start mucking around w/ the different setting and sound options. I usually end up screwing it up so bad that I have to reset the head unit to factory settings and then take my time tweaking each setting as I go, paying attention to the differences in sound.

I may be showing my age but stereos are a lot smarter, and hence a lot more complicated, than they were when I started about 20+ years ago. In the "old" days, you had balance, fade, treble, and bass. Today I there are some many little tweaks that you can make to the sound that it's very easy to change a setting that doesn't play nicely w/ the particular speaker configuration you're using.

I'm not saying that's what you did, just saying that it's a possiblity as I've done that myself. If you think that could be an issue, suggest you reset head unit back to factory defaults and go from there.

I'm sure between all of the members on this forum, someone will be able to figure out what's going on with your sound.
Thanks but I have the same head unit in my truck and my truck sounds great but I have 6x9's and subs. Just can't get used to crappy sound of a soft top jeep...I think that is what it really is. I may put a sub in just to fill out the rest of the sound and that may be what is missing. I do agree with you though....newer head units have a lot more control including curves that can get out of hand quickly.
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Polks, not polls. Geez, sounds like I'm setting up a strip club in my Jeep. On second thought, that kinda sounds like a good idea.

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