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Old 10-22-2010, 05:46 PM   #1
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help ! im stuck in a parking garage

the jeep wont start (98 stick shift) turn the key and nothing, it ha been doing this for the past 2 days but after a few try it slways turn over. not today.
im thinking the gear/clutch safety switch but i cannot locate it on the fuse panel behind the glove box. where it is ?

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Old 10-22-2010, 05:50 PM   #2
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Check all your spark plug wires first.
Check battery terminals for cracking or excessive corrosion

clutch safty switch is behind the actual clutch pedal on the master cylinder rod

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Old 10-22-2010, 05:54 PM   #3
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the starter will not turn, no click, nothing... battery is good . thats why i think the switch is the culpid. i need to bypass it and try
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:58 PM   #4
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I had the same problem recently. No problem with corrosion (visably), but I played with the baterry wires and it started right up.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:07 PM   #5
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just check battery cable, they re ok
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:13 PM   #6
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can i just cut the 2 wire of the clutch switch?
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:20 PM   #7
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uh... check for corrosion or dirt on the terminals of it first
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:21 PM   #8
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i wouldn't cut it
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:21 PM   #9
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Do the headlights come on ? Did you check the wires going to the starter ?
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:27 PM   #10
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If you do get power but theres a switch or some other "overide" preventing the starter from activating

(Most people would advise against this)

then you could throw the parking break on, make SURE its out of gear, and bypass the solenoid with a screw driver or something

I've done that a couple of times back when my relay was going bad

Now I know its not the BEST idea, but it does work and if you decide to do it make sure you are wearing gloves

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On a side note I thought you were actually "Stuck" height wise thats happened to me once
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:33 PM   #11
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have you tried tapping on the starter solenoid? Just use a wooden hammer handle or something similar. Wrench,ratchet,etc.. worth a shot
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:40 PM   #12
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The owners manual for my 99 says to put a 20 amp fuse in the slot marked "Clutch interlock ignition" behind the glove box to bypass the clutch interlock. (f20?)
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:52 PM   #13
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Your owner's manual describes how to bypass your clutch safety interlock switch by inserting a 20 amp fuse into the either #10 or #20 fuse slot (I forget which) behind the glove compartment.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:55 PM   #14
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on my 98 fuse panel there is not such slot...
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OF COURSE THERE IS.... they are in all '98 and newer TJs. It may not be labeled as such but there is a fuse slot that is there with the sole specific purpose of bypassing the clutch interlock switch. Look it up in your owner's manual or simply insert a fuse into the #10 or #20 fuse slot.
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Can you see the switch? If so, unplug it, see if it starts. If not, try to jumper across the plug.
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OF COURSE THERE IS.... they are in all '98 and newer TJs. It may not be labeled as such but there is a fuse slot that is there with the sole specific purpose of bypassing the clutch interlock switch. Look it up in your owner's manual or simply insert a fuse into the #10 or #20 fuse slot.
If there is no empty slot, maybe someone already bypassed it and the fuse is blown. Check fuses in slots 10 and 20.
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Can you see the switch? If so, unplug it, see if it starts. If not, try to jumper across the plug.
Unplugging the switch will not bypass the interlock switch, that will simply leave the connection open which will prevent the engine from starting. It's easiest to simply insert a fuse into the clutch interlock bypass fuse slot as described above.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:02 PM   #19
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lights come on, i cut off the wire of the switch but no luck. still wont turn over, not even a click (like when ur starter is stuck) damn it.....
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and mg phone baterry is slmost dead.... #10 is cluster, skready a fuse in and good, #20 auto trans no fuse in so i put a 10A . still no luck
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on my 98 fuse panel there is not such slot...
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:10 PM   #22
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If you cut them then the circut is open and it for sure won't start. I guess you could strip them back and twist them together. If you can get it to the top of the ramp maybe you can start it down and release the cluch ingear and key on to start it.
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ONCE AGAIN... disabling the switch like pulling its connector off or cutting a wire is only going to insure the interlock switch is going to prevent the engine from starting. It's like cutting wires to a light switch or disconnecting the switch and wondering why the light won't turn on.

Forget all the switch stuff, don't listen to the advice to cut wires, disconnect the switch, etc. Will you please simply plug a 20 amp fuse into the #20 fuse location and if that doesn't work, try inserting it into the #10 fuse slot. In the fuse panel behind the glove box. THAT is how to bypass the clutch safety interlock switch.

If inserting the fuse doesn't help, your clutch interlock is not the problem.

Have you loosened, cleaned, and then tightly reconnected both battery connections yet? That should have been the first thing you should have tried. Simply looking at them and thinking they are ok is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. They can still look fine and be the reason an engine will not turn over and start.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:41 PM   #24
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If #20 is labeled Auto trans, (thats how my auto trans is labeled) maybe it's had a trans swap? I certainly never suggested cutting any wires! On a previous vehicle, my clutch bypass switch failed, and unplugging the switch and jumpering across the plug allowed me to start the vehicle.
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If #20 is labeled Auto trans, (thats how my auto trans is labeled) maybe it's had a trans swap? I certainly never suggested cutting any wires! On a previous vehicle, my clutch bypass switch failed, and unplugging the switch and jumpering across the plug allowed me to start the vehicle.
dont worry I never said you did !
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ok, so I'm home now, my wife came and pick me up. I couldn't take a pic of my fuse panel as my phone battery was dead,,
so on # 20 fuse, it was empty and it says auto trans 20 A, see owner manual. the # 10 says cluster and already had a good 10 A fuse in it.

I put a 20A in the #20 slot but it didn't do anything.
I did cut the wire of the switch and put them together as I beleive the switch to be a N-O (normally open switch)

lets resume the situation : 2 days ago, was the first time that the jeep had the problem, I was turning the key and nothing would happen (except the light, gages etc.. that were coming on like normal) after a couple try it started just fine. I got to work no problems. when I left work it did the same thing, I had to try twice and then the jeep started fine.
this morning same thing, after a couple try it started just fine, I got to work, turned off the engine and try to restart it and it started right away. when I left work this afternoon it just wouldn't start.
all the lights comes on, the stereo, the headlights etc..etc.. (which of course I leave off after I try them)
when I try to start the jeep, I have no click noise (like when you have a bad starter) it just do nothing exactly the way it would do when you try to start without depressing the clutch. that is why my first thought was the clutch safety switch.
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Check the cables and connection from battery to starter and starter to ground.
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Old 10-23-2010, 03:23 AM   #28
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ok, so I'm home now, my wife came and pick me up. I couldn't take a pic of my fuse panel as my phone battery was dead,,
so on # 20 fuse, it was empty and it says auto trans 20 A, see owner manual. the # 10 says cluster and already had a good 10 A fuse in it.

I put a 20A in the #20 slot but it didn't do anything.
I did cut the wire of the switch and put them together as I beleive the switch to be a N-O (normally open switch)

lets resume the situation : 2 days ago, was the first time that the jeep had the problem, I was turning the key and nothing would happen (except the light, gages etc.. that were coming on like normal) after a couple try it started just fine. I got to work no problems. when I left work it did the same thing, I had to try twice and then the jeep started fine.
this morning same thing, after a couple try it started just fine, I got to work, turned off the engine and try to restart it and it started right away. when I left work this afternoon it just wouldn't start.
all the lights comes on, the stereo, the headlights etc..etc.. (which of course I leave off after I try them)
when I try to start the jeep, I have no click noise (like when you have a bad starter) it just do nothing exactly the way it would do when you try to start without depressing the clutch. that is why my first thought was the clutch safety switch.
Remember now that you have a fuse in the Auto Trans slot in the fuse panel the interlock switch has now been bypassed, meaning that when you do finally figure out what the problem is you will be able to start the jeep in gear without having your foot on the clutch. It won't hurt anything, I run mine like this 24/7.
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:54 AM   #29
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i have been driving stick since 1988, the Jeep is the first one with that safety, so no problems! now i need to found a way to bring it back home and find the problem....
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My clutch switch went out on my last jeep. I would put it in neutral and pound the clutch against the floor while i had the key on start. Then I cut the wires and twisted them together and it worked great after that. I had no plans to get a new clutch switch because they looked expensive, and they are stupid. Sometimes i want to start it without pushing down the clutch.

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