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Old 07-21-2010, 09:33 AM   #1
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Help me decide - please

I use to have a 95 Wrangler with in-line 4, 5 speed stick and 33x12.5x15 Super Swampers and 3" body lift (i believe)...I want to get TJ 97 or 98 with automatic transmission (so my wife can drive it too) and mount these tires (33x13.5x15!
Pitbull Rocker Tire 33x13.5-15 C
Need to know few things:
- how much lift i need for road driving and ocassional trail (no rock crawling or serious off-road)
- rim back spacing (assume 10" wide is optimal, correct me if i'm wrong)
- i would like to get in-line 6, because of tire load (probably easier to run with those tires) but also thinking of taking it to Europe and gas prices are just ridiculous overthere (is fuel consumption going to be big diferrence between 2.5l VS. 4.0' with same tires?
I really appreciate all the input, it will make my life easier and i will learn more about the Legend...Thanks

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Old 07-21-2010, 09:43 AM   #2
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Here is what I've learned in the month of reading this forum:
-TJ will need about a 2" lift to clear 33" tires.
-Once lifted, the Backspacing becomes slightly less of a concern but 4.5-5 will work well for ya.
-I6 will get SLIGHTLY better MPG than the I4 due to the improved Horsepower to weight ratio. Maybe 1-2 mpg
-Auto will get SLIGHTLY worse MPG than the manual because of the programed shifting points. Maybe 1-2 MPG

All or some of this could be wrong....But its what I've picked-up along the trail while following these guys down the path of Jeep ownership.

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Old 07-21-2010, 09:44 AM   #3
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You could do a 2" BB (Budget Boost) and 1" BL or do it right the first time and just do a 3-4" Suspension kit.

I believe B.S. would be 3.75 or 4

Gearing will be a big different in the 2.4 & 4.0 when running those tires.

Why Pitbull Rockers if on-road driving and the occasional offroad. The pitbulls tend to be more for offroad and rock crawling then on-road manners.

If you want a Mud Terrain your better off with something like Mickey Thompson MTZ, Maxxis Bighorns, BFG KM2 etc.

Also I believe that some of the following models had optional rear D44:
1997-2006 Sport models
1997-2004 Sahara models
2003-2006 Rubicons have front & rear D44's
2003-2005 Rocky Mtn edition
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:44 AM   #4
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I would say go with a 3" lift.

4"-3.75" backspacing
And I would stick with the inline 6. The 4 banger would probably eat more gas trying to push those tires. And you wont lose alot of power out of the 6 without regearing.
And with the inline 6 you have a chance of getting a Dana44 rear.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:04 AM   #5
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I would say go with a 3" lift.

4"-3.75" backspacing
And I would stick with the inline 6. The 4 banger would probably eat more gas trying to push those tires. And you wont lose alot of power out of the 6 without regearing.
And with the inline 6 you have a chance of getting a Dana44 rear.
^^^^ This! You need 3" lift minimum to clear 33's offroad. Min.4" bs on the wheels to clear the rear spring perches. And look for one with the lowest gearing you can find.... I run 33x12.5's on 3:07 gears, and no one envy's me...
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:12 AM   #6
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^^^^ Min.4" bs on the wheels to clear the rear spring perches.
You mean 4" max right. The greater the back spacing, the more the wheels will sit under the Jeep. .
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:21 AM   #7
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Its been 20 yrs since I was stationed in Germany, but even back then they had VERY restrictive regulations on what they would allow on their roadways.

Dont know which country you are aiming for, but its worth a few minutes of research to make SURE they will allow you to run Mud/Terrain tires.

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You mean 4" max right. The greater the back spacing, the more the wheels will sit under the Jeep. .
Yep, coffee hasn't kicked in yet... Thanks for clearing that up!
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:33 AM   #9
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When deciding on how much lift you want to go, think forward as far as possible.
Often as Jeepers, we fall into the pattern of "I only plan on 33's" and then after running them a year wish we had gone to 35's and eventually end up having to spend more money on modifications to accomidate our intended tire size.

Long term planning, buy it once, buy it right and do the resarch first.
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You guys/gals rock...thanks for all replies this fast, i should start checking who sells things i need (preferably on this board) Only reason i want to go with these tires is the size and look. Not planing on driving fast either, will take my time...those and Baja Claw Radials are on top of my list but i did see BFG MT in size 365/70/15 - are those still exist anywhere?

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