i have a tj, its dark green, if you look above at the wrangler forum.com photo thats always up there, there is a black tj its the 5th on the right. i want one with lights and a winch slot. if you happen to know who makes that front bumper in the photo please let me know
i assume you mean the 5th from the left. that thing the lights are on is called a stinger. it's separate from the bumper a lot of times. the bumper is just there and the stinger mounts to it. you can usually but them separately. and make any stinger fit any bumper with some modification. many bumpers come with winch mounting spots cut out of it.
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so it's not necessarily a stinger? what's the difference?
A stinger would be incorporated into the bumper and stout enough to hold the weight of the jeep. A stinger in the true sense is to stop the jeep from rolling over forward should it nose over.
What i have and what looks like is pictured is just a light hoop. It cant hold up to a whole lot. But its main function is just a place to mount lights.
99% of the stingers you see (like the smittybilts) are just for that hardcore look and would fold into the hood of the Jeep if they ever got used as intended. Or in the case of the of the smittybilt, used as not intended.
Picture a stinger on a bee. It looks like the one on the yellow rig in the aforementioned picture ^ at the top of the page. Thats where it gets its name. The light bar, hoop, or bull bar, is just there to either hold lights or to protect the grill, or winch.