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Old 12-30-2011, 09:08 AM   #31
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For the 4" savvy I would go down to 33"

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For the 4" savvy I would go down to 33"
Then I would not do the 4". 2.5" suspension and 1.25" body. Toss in the motor mount lift and then no SYE needed. You can also keep your factory CA's and upgrade later. You will also keep your COG nice and low.

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So for a 4" savvy your recommending 35s?
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So for a 4" savvy your recommending 35s?
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A 4" lift requires a SYE/CV set up. 35" tires on a TJ also needs upgraded steering and brakes. Trimming the fenders or correct bumpstops.

As I mentioned in a previous post regearing is also a must.

What axles do you have?
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:43 AM   #35
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Alright alright I see where you're coming from. I believe I have the Dana 44s.
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A 4" lift requires a SYE/CV set up. 35" tires on a TJ also needs upgraded steering and brakes. Trimming the fenders or correct bumpstops.

As I mentioned in a previous post regearing is also a must.

What axles do you have?
x2; to run 35s safely there is a good bit of work to be done (and money to be spent). Not that you can't do that, but just to give you a heads up. You can always do the 33s with the 4" lift until you can once again save up enough to perform the necessary upgrades to deal with 35s. That's what I'm currently doing.
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Alright alright I see where you're coming from. I believe I have the Dana 44s.
Unless you have a Rubicon, you wont have a dana 44 up front (unless you or someone else swapped one in). It is possible the rear is a 44. The easiest way to check is to look at the diff cover, if its oval with a rubber/plastic fill plug its a dana 35...if its got a couple angled sides with a metal threaded fill plug you have the dana 44. IF you dont have the dana 44 and want to go to 35s, an axle swap is on your long list of upgrades to run 35 inch tires.
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Alright alright I see where you're coming from. I believe I have the Dana 44s.
Your avatar shows a X model. That would have the D30 front. That will be OK for a 35" tire. The D44 rear was optional. I would check for sure.
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For sure I would have to check
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Does savvy/currie offer a 2.5" lift?
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Does savvy/currie offer a 2.5" lift?
I am sure they do. Call and talk to Gerald at Savvy. He is a good guy.

I also would talk to Dirk at DPG Offroad. He is the man when it comes to LCOG lifts. Dirk will put together a custom lift kit for exactly your needs.
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What about a savvy 3" with a 1" body lift? Talkin to a guy at work he says body lifts are illegal in my state but the only ones who care are state cops. He said they probably wouldn't mind a 1" but a 1.5" is pushin it
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What about a savvy 3" with a 1" body lift? Talkin to a guy at work he says body lifts are illegal in my state but the only ones who care are state cops. He said they probably wouldn't mind a 1" but a 1.5" is pushin it
I am not sure what springs the Savvy Kit includes. But a 3"SL and 1" BL with a MML is a good idea.

The object here is to lift the Wrangler only high enough to clear the tire size needed. You want to keep the center of gravity as low as possible. TJ's run into driveline issues with anything over 3" of suspension lift and depending on the spring some have issues with 3" as well. The driveline issues can be solved several ways. Lift the motor up to line up the transfer case, SYE/CV and adj. RUCA's or Transfer case drop. The transfer case drop is the worst idea ever. Lowering the transfer case after adding a lift is counter productive. You want more ground clearance not less.
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As far as I know Savvy/Currie only have 3" and 4" springs. Their both on the west coast, and as such a good bit of the LCOG stuff is thrown out the window; according to those who've been there, if you don't have a minimum of 20" belly clearance you won't have a good day. If you're looking for a good 3" or 4" lift kit, I'd recommend the lift from Savvy/Currie. If you want something smaller, there are many many options out there; I don't have any personal experience with any of them, so I won't begin to tell you what the best route is. You've got people who throw 2.5" springs on and call it a day, and then you have guys like Imped who have an amazing build. Like I said before, it's all about what you want to get out of your Jeep.

It sounds like you're not entirely sure what you want to do with your Jeep. If I was you, I wouldn't rush into it. Spend a good bit of time on here and over at JeepForum.com and find out what options you have. Eventually you'll settle onto something and have more of an idea as to what you need.
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As far as I know Savvy/Currie only have 3" and 4" springs. Their both on the west coast, and as such a good bit of the LCOG stuff is thrown out the window; according to those who've been there, if you don't have a minimum of 20" belly clearance you won't have a good day. If you're looking for a good 3" or 4" lift kit, I'd recommend the lift from Savvy/Currie. If you want something smaller, there are many many options out there; I don't have any personal experience with any of them, so I won't begin to tell you what the best route is. You've got people who throw 2.5" springs on and call it a day, and then you have guys like Imped who have an amazing build. Like I said before, it's all about what you want to get out of your Jeep.

It sounds like you're not entirely sure what you want to do with your Jeep. If I was you, I wouldn't rush into it. Spend a good bit of time on here and over at JeepForum.com and find out what options you have. Eventually you'll settle onto something and have more of an idea as to what you need.


You can't get to 20" of belly clearance on 33" tires with only 3" or 4" of lift. 20" is way more than needed for any trail for a Wrangler. Crawlers have 20" not many DD Wranglers.

I have 17.5" and can go just about anywhere I want.
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You can't get to 20" of belly clearance on 33" tires with only 3" or 4" of lift. 20" is way more than needed for any trail for a Wrangler. Crawlers have 20" not many DD Wranglers.
Lol, wasn't saying you can or can't; I was trying to explain as to maybe why Currie doesn't have springs smaller than for 3" of lift height. As for DD wranglers having 20" of belly height, I'm hoping to achieve just that when I'm done. Take a look at Imped's build; I'm pretty sure he has at least 19"-19.5" of belly clearance on a short lift and 35s. The OP has thrown around the option of both 33s and 35s, which is why I'll still give options for both. Like I said in my post, he obviously isn't decided.

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I have 17.5" and can go just about anywhere I want.
That's being quite obtuse; where you wheel that may very well apply, but that doesn't work for everyone everywhere. Again, my post applies; the OP needs to figure out what he wants to do with his Jeep before deciding on a lift. Maybe he would be happy with a small lift and 31s, or maybe a larger lift and 35s are more what he needs. Maybe he wants LCOG, maybe he doesn't really care about it. It all depends on what he wants, which is why I think he needs to think a bit more before jumping into anything.
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That's being quite obtuse; where you wheel that may very well apply, but that doesn't work for everyone everywhere. Again, my post applies; the OP needs to figure out what he wants to do with his Jeep before deciding on a lift. Maybe he would be happy with a small lift and 31s, or maybe a larger lift and 35s are more what he needs. Maybe he wants LCOG, maybe he doesn't really care about it. It all depends on what he wants, which is why I think he needs to think a bit more before jumping into anything.
I agree completely. He is unsure about what to do and what he wants and needs to get as many opinions as he can.


The 17.5" I have got me around Moab pretty well.
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I agree completely. He is unsure about what to do and what he wants and needs to get as many opinions as he can.


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The 17.5" I have got me around Moab pretty well.
Good to know; I have some family out there and have been wanting to go "visit" for a while now.
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I'm taking all this in before I rush into anything I appreciate all of your time tryin to help a newb out. I have 31s on it right now and want to go a little higher with a little bit bigger tires. I think I'm leaning towards a 3" savvy and a 1" body with 33s. That way I won't have to worry about SYE/CV or regearing or even upgrading an axel or two.
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I'm taking all this in before I rush into anything I appreciate all of your time tryin to help a newb out. I have 31s on it right now and want to go a little higher with a little bit bigger tires. I think I'm leaning towards a 3" savvy and a 1" body with 33s. That way I won't have to worry about SYE/CV or regearing or even upgrading an axel or two.
Sounds good, just keep in mind that to keep from having vibes with 3" of suspension lift you might need to drop the t-case if you aren't going to do an SYE. I'd be surprised if a mml would be enough to completely get rid of any vibes you may get.
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I'm taking all this in before I rush into anything I appreciate all of your time tryin to help a newb out. I have 31s on it right now and want to go a little higher with a little bit bigger tires. I think I'm leaning towards a 3" savvy and a 1" body with 33s. That way I won't have to worry about SYE/CV or regearing or even upgrading an axel or two.
Depending on what motor, trans and gears you have you may still need to regear with 33's.
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I'm taking all this in before I rush into anything I appreciate all of your time tryin to help a newb out. I have 31s on it right now and want to go a little higher with a little bit bigger tires. I think I'm leaning towards a 3" savvy and a 1" body with 33s. That way I won't have to worry about SYE/CV or regearing or even upgrading an axel or two.

Dont forget to buy shocks too... The Savvy Kit doesnt come with them. I am pulling the trigger on the Savvy Lift in a few weeks. But i will not be buying the Rancho shocks that are $425 for a set of 4.
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I6 4.0L final axel drive 3.07 I believe
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I6 4.0L final axel drive 3.07 I believe
You'll probably want to regear; a friend (solman on here) had 3.07s with his 33s and I don't think he cared for it much. I do know he dealt with it for a long time, but he was very happy when he got it regeared.
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So how much of a pain and cost is it to regear on a 5 speed manual trans?
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So how much of a pain and cost is it to regear on a 5 speed manual trans?
You re-gear both the front and rear axle differentials. AKA: pumpkins Not the trany.

Anywhere from $500 to $1,000, or so i hear.
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So how much of a pain and cost is it to regear on a 5 speed manual trans?
Varies on where you are. Around here, I've heard quotes from $150 per axle to $1800 for both (both not including parts). Shop around and find a good deal.
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Makes since...lol. Would I be able to do it in my garage without any special tools?
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And what gear ratio do you suggest?
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Makes since...lol. Would I be able to do it in my garage without any special tools?
Your need a dial indicator with a magnetic base. Some layout dye and a whole lot of luck if you have never done it before. I dont see many folks doing this on thier own.

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