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Old 02-11-2011, 09:12 AM   #61
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:59 AM   #62
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Well I didn't say it I just ironically enough was studying for my calculus test coming up lol. I still need to get my floor pans welded in then I'll be doing one of these lol....dunno which though

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Yep, that's correct. 30 sqft at 100 mils: 30 x 100 = 3,000, then 3,000 / 1604 = 1.87 gallons.

If the product is 30% solvents and 70% solids, then bump the mils up 30%: 30 x 130 = 3,900, then 3,900 / 1604 = 2.43 gallons.

Keep in mind there will be some waste. Also, most DIY products contain quite a bit of solvents.
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Thanks I didn't have a calculator I was walking to get some lunch lol. Hm my step dad swears by por I'm assuming that's totally different though
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I'm not sure if you meant if the formula works for POR-15 or not. Yes, it does.
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I just meant that's what he used on all his parts then he rhino lined the interior but he has an old bronco. Doesn't seem like sandpaper though. I'd rather have rough texture for grip but that's me
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Well, if it's a high pressure product (like LINE-X), the dealer can vary the texture from hardly any to extremely rough. The more the texture, the more the grip, like the floor of a truck bed. Jeep tubs don't need the super heavy texture.

If the product is low pressure, the texture can't be varied nearly as much.
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:39 AM   #68
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The biggest thing i want is insulation/less road noise... (its a DD... and for long hwy trips i dont want to be YELLING to talk to passengers hahaha)
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:47 AM   #69
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The biggest thing i want is insulation/less road noise... (its a DD... and for long hwy trips i dont want to be YELLING to talk to passengers hahaha)
I wonder if you can line yours and then dynomat the interior and reinstall carpet to help deaden the noise.....Just a thought I don't know if you are looking to get rid of the carpet or not. You can also maybe dynomat the interior of the doors too. I don't have any experience with this so maybe someone will chime in and correct me...
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U-Pol Raptor Truck Bed Liner sounds awsome and a good replacement for my carpet that smells but just wondering about the texture as the little lady likes to go bare foot and I dont want to hear complaning all summer
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Even if you like the carpet in you Jeep this is a great mod to protect the metal against rust...
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Even if you like the carpet in you Jeep this is a great mod to protect the metal against rust...

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I wonder if you can line yours and then dynomat the interior and reinstall carpet to help deaden the noise.....Just a thought I don't know if you are looking to get rid of the carpet or not. You can also maybe dynomat the interior of the doors too. I don't have any experience with this so maybe someone will chime in and correct me...
Ive definately considered it... but i will probably just end up lining it and then replacing the carpet i have with some thicker carpet...

(and ill take the carpet out when wheeling )
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It will only stop rust from forming on that particular surface. Rust can form on the underside's surface. Bottom Line: If you want to prevent rust from forming, you have to keep oxygen away from the metal's surfaces.
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Ive definately considered it... but i will probably just end up lining it and then replacing the carpet i have with some thicker carpet...

(and ill take the carpet out when wheeling )
Yeah after I line mine I think the carpet will get pitched lol
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bad bad idea. most of these products (not all) are a two part mix with a catalyst hardener that is solvent based. doing this in a closed area with a fire is like having a death wish.

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Man, I really appreciate all the info and pics. I would really like to know if the sprayed application of U-Pol is easy to spray on aim and not be oversprayed and whatnot. I will definately doing this when the weather is warmer if I can be disciplined enough to wait, may just have to do it in my shop with a fire goin...Spend the $$$ on some bumpers that I save here. Thanks alot fellas
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good grief. instead of spending your life doing math to figure out what to do, just go do it. sheesh. you can put as much of the stuff on as you like. look at what everyone that has done it says. one kit does it all with some to spare so obviously its not going to take almost 2 gallons.
next, the fact that it has solvents has nothing to do with it being a do it yourself product. any professionally sprayed paint has solvents. most average 50% solvent, called reducer. this thins the media being sprayed so it atomizes better for better coverage and doesnt clog your spray gun.
finally, realize that the amount of wear and tear your shoes will have on the floor of your jeep is no comparison to contruction matertials in the bed of a truck. your jeep floor doesnt have to be anywhere near as durable. i have rhino lining in the bed of my F250 and have hauled engines and all kinds of stuff without suffering a scratch. unless you are either rich, lazy or both, save some dough and diy. with some patience and research, it will be more than adequate. it seems the real issue is what do you want yours to look like? that is the big thing, what product gives what type of finish?
i will be doing mine very soon and will take pics step by step. im not gonna say what i am using till the end so people can judge if its for them or not based on the finish, not the name.
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Also, keep in mind when you buy a solvent based product, the solvent evaporates away. So, for example, if you buy one gallon of a product that's 33% solvents, you're only getting 2/3 of a gallon of actual bedliner product.

By the way, LINE-X Premium contains zero solvents. It's 100% waterproof, won't fade, and the texture can be varied.
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Ew... LINE-X=crappy sandpaper... horrible


(unless they have changed their product in the last 5 years)
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no, thats not correct. if you go to the paint store and buy a gallon of paint to paint your car, you get a gallon of paint, then a can of reducer unless you specifically ask for your paint to be pre-reduced for you to avoid mixing mishaps. i also use water bourne paints and when i buy a 4 oz bottle to airbrush with, i get a 4 oz bottle of paint, i put the reducer in myself. its not included in the volume of the product.
what is correct is that it evaporates since its just a carrier for the product itself.

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Also, keep in mind when you buy a solvent based product, the solvent evaporates away. So, for example, if you buy one gallon of a product that's 33% solvents, you're only getting 2/3 of a gallon of actual bedliner product.

By the way, LINE-X Premium contains zero solvents. It's 100% waterproof, won't fade, and the texture can be varied.
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Ew... LINE-X=crappy sandpaper... horrible
(unless they have changed their product in the last 5 years)
Go back to page two and look at those pictures. Then, take of look at LINE-X Premium, which is new. It will have a texture, but it can be a very light texture.

LINE-X Premium coating with LINE-X Xtra. No fading, 100% waterproof, WAY more durable that DIY stuff.
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Basically you want to know how much your going to need and have an open area to put it on in, your gonna want to allow it to dry FULLY before using it, and any smell might last a while, I didn't use any rino liner in mine, after I threw out my molded carpet I simply cleaned it good scuffed it up a bit and used an good oil based black paint, in three coats, needless to say I drove around for three months with the Windows down cold or warm, but its still there with no chips in it, only needed two quart cans so I saved a bundle doing it that way
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no, thats not correct. if you go to the paint store and buy a gallon of paint to paint your car, you get a gallon of paint, then a can of reducer unless you specifically ask for your paint to be pre-reduced for you to avoid mixing mishaps. i also use water bourne paints and when i buy a 4 oz bottle to airbrush with, i get a 4 oz bottle of paint, i put the reducer in myself. its not included in the volume of the product.
what is correct is that it evaporates since its just a carrier for the product itself.
You're talking about paint. The DIY stuff like Herculiner and Raptor are not like paint, the chemistry is different. It's a solvent based polyurethane. The solvent allows for working time. As it evaporates, the isocyanate takes hydrogen from the water in air which it needs to combine with the resin and harden.

Herculiner is 28% solvents!

If you want to talk about paints, most automotive paints do contain solvents, usually at least xylene and acetone.
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U-Pol Raptor Truck Bed Liner sounds awsome and a good replacement for my carpet that smells but just wondering about the texture as the little lady likes to go bare foot and I dont want to hear complaning all summer
You can still get rubber or fluffy floormats for the Lady.
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I used hurculiner on my last one I'm probably gonna use raptor liner on this one. The hurculiner is like sandpaper. Just my .02
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I had Linex spray this on 18 months ago. I love it but it was pricey. I like what you guys are doing yourselves here. I'm going to pull the trigger on this when it warms up. Thanks for all the great info.

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Go back to page two and look at those pictures. Then, take of look at LINE-X Premium, which is new. It will have a texture, but it can be a very light texture.

LINE-X Premium coating with LINE-X Xtra. No fading, 100% waterproof, WAY more durable that DIY stuff.
i like line-x but the quoted me a price of $4.5k to do it..
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im glad you know how to use google but its really not relevant. the material has to have a vessel to be applied or be a different type of product.
unless you are getting a paid endorsement for linex then you need to understand the point. saving money. if it makes you feel better to spend that way, go ahead, thats your privilege but these guys want to save money and have pride in doing it themselves. bottom line? most diy liners cost about a hundred bucks. the end.
as for trying to impressive me by reading the instructions from your home jr. chemistry set, how about telling me how often you have actually applied a liner or how many cars you've painted? that is what impresses me.
(you forgot to quote the miniscule percentage of solvents in unreduced paint. someone here might care.)

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You're talking about paint. The DIY stuff like Herculiner and Raptor are not like paint, the chemistry is different. It's a solvent based polyurethane. The solvent allows for working time. As it evaporates, the isocyanate takes hydrogen from the water in air which it needs to combine with the resin and harden.

Herculiner is 28% solvents!

If you want to talk about paints, most automotive paints do contain solvents, usually at least xylene and acetone.
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