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Old 12-10-2010, 12:57 AM   #1
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High lift jack as winch?

Anybody ever used their high lift jack as a winch? I know it is advertised as being able to be used as one. I can't afford a real winch.
Obviously it won't get you out of really tough spots, but I wheel alone allot, nothing crazy at all... Just like to know if I could get myself out of a good mud puddle with it. Anybody tried it?

I think leverage may be an issue... Could be better if I bought a long pipe to put on the handle for added leverage.

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Anybody ever used their high lift jack as a winch? I know it is advertised as being able to be used as one. I can't afford a real winch.
Obviously it won't get you out of really tough spots, but I wheel alone allot, nothing crazy at all... Just like to know if I could get myself out of a good mud puddle with it. Anybody tried it?

I think leverage may be an issue... Could be better if I bought a long pipe to put on the handle for added leverage.
You need a kit to winch with it. Chains and some d rings at the least

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it works, it just sucks and takes forever. try it once. you'll buy a winch the next week, after your Jeep's out
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I use mine it is slow but works good


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it works, it just sucks and takes forever. try it once. you'll buy a winch the next week, after your Jeep's out
THIS.
It will work, but you'll be cussing yourself the whole time. Especially if you have to move your Jeep a large distance by yourself.

If you're wheeling by yourself, make sure there will be something to attach to also. If there aren't trees or trucks around, you may want to look into something like this.

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I havent used it yet I think I might try to use it today and see how much of a pita it is
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They do work great for this but keep in mind they are VERY dangerious if you dont use it carefully. Keep your hands and head out of the path of the swing of the handle at all times. Like anything, just think faster than your hands move and you should be fine. Hey they also work great as a jack... dont know if you have a lift and tires but that little jack under your pass seat just doesnt get high enough to do any good off road. Again, be very careful as they can ruin your day real quick!
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A winch is the way to go but when you dont have the money the hi-lift will work .I got a winch on truck,blazer,quad but not the jeep yet .Not only do you have to buy the winch then you need a bumper or get a winch plate and now into more money ..
Winch arond $300-$600 bumper $200-$600 it never ends lol .
I need a money tree
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A winch is the way to go but when you dont have the money the hi-lift will work .I got a winch on truck,blazer,quad but not the jeep yet .Not only do you have to buy the winch then you need a bumper or get a winch plate and now into more money ..
Winch arond $300-$600 bumper $200-$600 it never ends lol .
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stiffer springs. too lol
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The thought of needing to use a Hi-Lift as a winch is horrifying to me. Seldom does it work as well or as easily the Hi-Lift marketing department wants you to think it will. To get it to work, you can't use straps because they stretch too much. Does anyone really think they will carry enough chain or heavy steel cable so their Hi-Lift can truly be used as a winch? One of the 4x4 magazines did a Myth Busters test of using a Hi-Lift of a winch years ago and their comment was "never again". It'd have to be the perfect situation and you'd have to have enough of the right kind of chain or steel cable for it to work and then you'll still be thinking it's the wrong tool for the job. Better to simply have another Jeeper snatch you out with a strap or winch.
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They do work great for this but keep in mind they are VERY dangerious if you dont use it carefully. Keep your hands and head out of the path of the swing of the handle at all times. Like anything, just think faster than your hands move and you should be fine. Hey they also work great as a jack... dont know if you have a lift and tires but that little jack under your pass seat just doesnt get high enough to do any good off road. Again, be very careful as they can ruin your day real quick!
If your Jeep has any real flex to it, a HiLift won't lift your Jeep high enough to change tires, especially if they're 33" or bigger. My HiLift won't lift my Jeep enough to swap out a tire, I have to use a bottle jack for that. HiLifts MAY have their OCCASIONAL use, but not on my Jeep. And certainly not as a winch.
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The thought of needing to use a Hi-Lift as a winch is horrifying to me. Seldom does it work as well or as easily the Hi-Lift marketing department wants you to think it will. To get it to work, you can't use straps because they stretch too much. Does anyone really think they will carry enough chain or heavy steel cable so their Hi-Lift can truly be used as a winch? One of the 4x4 magazines did a Myth Busters test of using a Hi-Lift of a winch years ago and their comment was "never again". It'd have to be the perfect situation and you'd have to have enough of the right kind of chain or steel cable for it to work and then you'll still be thinking it's the wrong tool for the job. Better to simply have another Jeeper snatch you out with a strap or winch.
so your saying it dont work I have used mine to get myself out of some bad spots .You move yourself enuff and let the jeep do the rest . sometimes you gota do what you gota do by yourself . I'm no hard core pro offroader like yourself but I go and have fun been doing it for 20 years . But since you said it cant be done I gess i'll stop using it
I'll stick to one of my other rides that have a winch till I can afford to drop a grand on a winch set up for my jeep .
You do have alot of helpfull info but you are one sided and talk down on things . The OP asked if it could be done yes it can be might not be the best way but it will work
We all can not afford the best things in life and you have to use whats in hand sometimes .
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But since you said it cant be done I gess i'll stop using it
Um, please show me where I said it "can't be done".
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Better yet, but still not near as good as a winch, a cable come-a-long. Get a good one, not a cheapie.

They still are a pain to use, but they can pull you farther quicker. Practice how to hook it up and operate it BEFORE you need it.

Keep your face and fingers out of the way!!!!!!!!
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Better yet, but still not near as good as a winch, a cable come-a-long.

Get a good one, not a cheapie. Use with the Hi-Lift to lift it up, then the come-a-long to pull you over it.


They still are a pain to use, but they can pull you farther quicker. Practice how to hook it up and operate it BEFORE you need it.

Keep your face and fingers out of the way!!!!!!!!
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Um, please show me where I said it "can't be done".
You did not say it in them words . But how you say things sometimes make people think it's dumb or not going to work .
Don't take me the wrong way I like you I think you have some good thoughts on things and help many people out on this form and others people look up to what you say .
You got to look at it as if you dont have the money to get the best of the best . Some people just want to have fun with what they have .

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The thought of needing to use a Hi-Lift as a winch is horrifying to me. Seldom does it work as well or as easily the Hi-Lift marketing department wants you to think it will. To get it to work, you can't use straps because they stretch too much. Does anyone really think they will carry enough chain or heavy steel cable so their Hi-Lift can truly be used as a winch? One of the 4x4 magazines did a Myth Busters test of using a Hi-Lift of a winch years ago and their comment was "never again". It'd have to be the perfect situation and you'd have to have enough of the right kind of chain or steel cable for it to work and then you'll still be thinking it's the wrong tool for the job. Better to simply have another Jeeper snatch you out with a strap or winch.
I tested mine out yesterday at I have to say its an alternative to a winch. Sure a horrible one but for people that don't wheel with other people its good. If your Jeep is stuck and needs to move only a couple feet to get unstuck then its not that bad. When I go camping it gives me piece of mind until I get a winch

Better than having no way to get unstuck

That being said it is a major pita. I've got 40 lbs of chain to be able to winch around 25 feet which depending on conditions would probably take an hour lol. If you haven't been able to justify getting awinch, then try winching with the hi lift and you'll probably start saving for a winch that day
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If your Jeep has any real flex to it, a HiLift won't lift your Jeep high enough to change tires, especially if they're 33" or bigger. My HiLift won't lift my Jeep enough to swap out a tire, I have to use a bottle jack for that. HiLifts MAY have their OCCASIONAL use, but not on my Jeep. And certainly not as a winch.
yes it will, you simply need a ratchet strap.

on the corner you want to change... loop the strap from the frame, under the axle back to the frame, and operate the high lift.

like i said before when a high-lift jack is concerned "you just gotta be smarter than what ya work with"
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yes it will, you simply need a ratchet strap.

on the corner you want to change... loop the strap from the frame, under the axle back to the frame, and operate the high lift.

like i said before when a high-lift jack is concerned "you just gotta be smarter than what ya work with"
I'm fully aware of using a ratchet strap....that's how I rotated my tires for a year. It's a pain in the ass to have to do it that way. A good bottle jack works and is easier and faster. And as for your comment of "you just gotta be smarter than what ya work with", I'd like to counter it with "Work smarter, not harder."


If you're going to compare someone's intelligence to a HiLift, you might want to check your spelling and grammatical construction. That preposition at the end of your sentence stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.
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A good redneck can figure out a way to get out of just about anything. A jack, a winch, a come-a-long. Heck I have even chained a piece of log to my right rear wheel to chew my way out.

But you just got to do with what ya got. If you dont have a winch....... then you work from there.
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I'm sorry. I just read my last post and it makes me sound like a jerk. That's not the route I was trying to take. Smartass yes, jerk no.

HiLifts may have their uses, but I don't think the pros outweigh the cons IN MY SITUATION. That's all I'm trying to say. I have a winch and a big ass bottle jack, so I have no use for a HiLift.

Personally, I'd think a come-along would work better at short-distance winching than a HiLift. If you don't have a winch, a come-along would probably be a better self-recovery item to carry.
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Add a folding camp shovel to this growing list of extracation goodies. I've used one to get unstuck which is why I'm maybe getting a winch for a Christmas gift.
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yes it will, you simply need a ratchet strap.

on the corner you want to change... loop the strap from the frame, under the axle back to the frame, and operate the high lift.

like i said before when a high-lift jack is concerned "you just gotta be smarter than what ya work with"
Why anyone would go to the trouble of wrapping a ratchet strap or chain around the axle/frame to keep the axle from drooping while jacking from the tub so they can change a tire using a Hi-Lift is beyond me. I can have my 35" tire changed & be done with my factory bottle jack by the time someone with a Hi-Lift can even be ready to start taking the lug nuts off.

Changing a tire is the LAST thing I would ever use a Hi-Lift for. Afterall, the OE bottle jack is adequate for tires up to 37", I use mine no problem with my 35" tires. And if I were running a bigger tire than that, I would just go buy a taller hydraulic bottle jack.

A Hi-Lift is, plain and simple, a tool of last resort... especially where tire changing duties are concerned. This is why no new cars come with that style jack like they did until the late sixties or early 70's when car manufacturers switched to a safer style jack.
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I'm fully aware of using a ratchet strap....that's how I rotated my tires for a year. It's a pain in the ass to have to do it that way. A good bottle jack works and is easier and faster. And as for your comment of "you just gotta be smarter than what ya work with", I'd like to counter it with "Work smarter, not harder."


If you're going to compare someone's intelligence to a HiLift, you might want to check your spelling and grammatical construction. That preposition at the end of your sentence stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.
i was merely replying to this statement made by you... i wasn't comparing anyone's intelligence to anything. it is only an expression.
but you posted otherwise on that subject as well stating that that's how you have indeed changed tires in the past.

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If your Jeep has any real flex to it, a HiLift won't lift your Jeep high enough to change tires, especially if they're 33" or bigger. My HiLift won't lift my Jeep enough to swap out a tire, I have to use a bottle jack for that. HiLifts MAY have their OCCASIONAL use, but not on my Jeep. And certainly not as a winch.


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Not trying to sound like a prick, but my bottle jack is on a trail buried in 3 foot of mud. I don't play in the rocks, and I use my high lift on my CJ with 33's and 4 in. lift to change flats all the time. It has a better "foot print" (big base bought)for not sinking in the muck. Just my 2 cents...and I have the 60 inch, not the "little one". I have no desire to use it as a winch, but as a jack in the muck, I have no complaints. Maybe my bottle jack will be fossilized and found 3 million years from now where it lies in state in a mud hole on my brother-in-law's oil lease.....lol
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i was merely replying to this statement made by you... i wasn't comparing anyone's intelligence to anything. it is only an expression.
but you posted otherwise on that subject as well stating that that's how you have indeed changed tires in the past.





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I think it's a good idea of you don't want to dish out the money for a winch. I have never used one myself but have seen guys I Offroad with use it as a winch and seems to work good.
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I've seen it used and the entire time i was crossing my fingers that nobody would get hurt. I don't even like to use it as a jack, those things just scare the Sh*t outta me personally. I only use it in my drive way to lift it up enough to get my jeep on jack stands, even that i'm always thinking in the back of my head that it's just gonna slide out. My first hi-lift jack was a cheap one and may times would just decide to slide out (damn vietnamese parts lol) but hey if it works it works just be careful.

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