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Old 01-23-2011, 11:28 AM   #1
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Hit a curb

So here in PA on tuesday, we got a really bad ice storm. Long story short a focus slid across the road into my lane forcing me to evade and i slid into a curb.....hard. I hit my front passenger wheel while i was turned left trying to straighten the car out. Now i replaced the rim, got an alignment and when i look at the car from the front end it looks as if the whole wheel is pushed in toward the car. and the drivers side wheel is farther away. (as in more tread is outside of the fender flare than the usual) My question is could i have moved over everything under the front end? It seems as if the whole axle moved toward the driver side

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oh and i have a 2 inch skyjacker spacer lift sitting on 31's and to add to the problems. the BODY of the car looks as if its leaning to the passenger side. not the bumper. shock problem?

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Old 01-23-2011, 12:20 PM   #3
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You may have bent the track bar, something like that might not be easily noticed and is resposible for centering your axle.
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I would take the JEEP (not a car...lol) into a body shop and get it checked out...it sounds like you've definitely bent some stuff up in the front end. Was a police report filed stating the Focus was responsible for your own accident for insurance purposes or was everyone left to fix their own vehicles? If their insurance is responsible for it, I'd definitely contact their insurance company and have it checked out on their dime.
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bent control arms?
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If your axle is sticking out more on the drivers side than it is the passenger side....how come the alignment people didn't notice it?

It sounds to me like you bent the trackbar AND the control arms. with the track bar disconnected it would be hard to move the axle more than an inch to port without bending the control arms. The shocks and spring perches would let it move without issue.
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X2 on track bar or control arms or both
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Remember that when you put on your 2" lift the axle shifted slightly to the drivers side of the Jeep. Are you sure you are not just noticing that now? If not then I would bet on the track bar bent a little bit. It will be really hard if not impossible to see if the track bar is bent as they are not a straight piece of steel. Think of it as a good time to get an adjustable track bar to center your axle from the 2" lift.
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thanks for the good replies guys. im gonna get it checked out. and yeah i had no idea why the place doing the alignment didnt even bother to look at it after i told them about it......i definitely bent something. going about 15. but remember i hit the curb with the wheel parallel to it, so thats basically complete force to the side. and i didnt put the lift on it. bought it used with the kit on it
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Remember that when you put on your 2" lift the axle shifted slightly to the drivers side of the Jeep. Are you sure you are not just noticing that now? If not then I would bet on the track bar bent a little bit. It will be really hard if not impossible to see if the track bar is bent as they are not a straight piece of steel. Think of it as a good time to get an adjustable track bar to center your axle from the 2" lift.

x2 I know when I did my 2" lift my front axle looked like it was shifted to the drivers side a little bit.
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x2 I know when I did my 2" lift my front axle looked like it was shifted to the drivers side a little bit.
sorry for reviving this thread but why is this and how do you fix it.
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sorry for reviving this thread but why is this and how do you fix it.
The track bar, see it in the below photo, is what positions and holds the axle in place left-to-right. The front track bar connects between the frame on the driver's side and the axle on the passenger side. Picture the track bar as the angled line in the letter 'Z' with the frame at the top and the axle at the bottom of the letter.

As a suspension lift raises the distance between the frame and axle, it causes the track bar to pull the axle outwards towards the driver's side. The rear axle's track bar does the same thing but in the opposite direction.

The fix is a longer track bar to compensate for the taller suspension height, which is done by replacing the factory track bar with an adjustable length track bar that is adjusted to be a tad longer which then recenters the axle.
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The track bar, see it in the below photo, is what positions and holds the axle in place left-to-right. The front track bar connects between the frame on the driver's side and the axle on the passenger side. Picture the track bar as the angled line in the letter 'Z' with the frame at the top and the axle at the bottom of the letter.

As a suspension lift raises the distance between the frame and axle, it causes the track bar to pull the axle outwards towards the driver's side. The rear axle's track bar does the same thing but in the opposite direction.

The fix is a longer track bar to compensate for the taller suspension height, which is done by replacing the factory track bar with an adjustable length track bar that is adjusted to be a tad longer which then recenters the axle.
thanks. you're good at explaining things. my passenger side is stuck out about an inch farther though not the drivers side.
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my passenger side is stuck out about an inch farther though not the drivers side.
If you're talking about the rear axle, that's normal because it moves in the opposite direction to the front axle. If you're talking about the front axle, your springs might have sagged a bit to cause that.
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If you're talking about the rear axle, that's normal because it moves in the opposite direction to the front axle. If you're talking about the front axle, your springs might have sagged a bit to cause that.
actually i mean the front. its pushed out a little on the passenger side. the rear is dead even as far as i can see. the lift is only about a month old.
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If your lift is using the stock track bar, that is highly unusual. If it is using an aftermarket track bar, the track bar is a bit too long for the lift height.
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If your lift is using the stock track bar, that is highly unusual. If it is using an aftermarket track bar, the track bar is a bit too long for the lift height.
its the stock track bar but i think i may see where the problem is. at the bottom end there were 2 holes. when we put on the lift we werent sure which one to put it back in to. we ended up using the one on the inside. if i move it to the outside hole then that should move the whole thing to the left correct?
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its the stock track bar but i think i may see where the problem is. at the bottom end there were 2 holes. when we put on the lift we werent sure which one to put it back in to. we ended up using the one on the inside. if i move it to the outside hole then that should move the whole thing to the left correct?
Correct, if I understand you. If the axle is too far towards the passenger side, you'd want the passenger-side of the track bar bolted into the hole nearest the passenger-side tire.
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thanks jerry. i was pretty sure i was right but i was just checking to see if my thinking was correct before i did it and made it stick out worse.
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jerry is my hero. it is now perfect front and rear.
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another thread revive.....sorry. Well i found the problem, both of the LCA brackets are bent on the passenger side, axle one and frame rail one. so my question is, i know i need to cut them off and weld new ones on. should i buy both brackets and a new lower control arm? or just the brackets. and would my track bar be bent from the control arm brackets bending? thanks guys

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