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Old 03-28-2011, 08:02 PM   #1
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How many Grease Zirks?

Can anyone accurately say how many grease fittings there are front to back on a TJ? If anyone could list what and where that would also be awesome.

What kind of grease does everyone trust?

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Interested in this as well.

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There are seven total grease zerks and they are all on the front-end's steering system. They're easy to find on the moving steering linkages and the ball joints that the knuckles pivot about when you turn left or right.

Using a tube of the red grease formulated for Chrysler vehicles will insure you don't use a grease that is incompatible with the factory grease that is in there now. Most auto parts stores have separate tubes of grease for Chrysler, Ford, GM, etc.

This will help... http://jeep.us41.org/lube/index.html
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Nice one Jerry!!! Crawling under to look will help too, because if you have aftermarket parts, there is a good possibility that you will have extra grease fittings too! I have 4 extra on the JKS Disconnects and 2 more for each of the sway bar bushing sets.
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My 2002 TJ has 9 zerks. I looked for 7 but found 2 more...
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Ahhhhhh...I have 24 fittings! Too many and too often. I have changed a lot of items so that comes with the mods. Control arms 2 each, upper and lower, rear track bar, front track bar...etc, etc.
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At one point I had so my zerk fittings that I became a slave to keeping them greased. I was at least able to get rid of 6 of them by upgrading to Spicer's sealed u-joints on both of my driveshafts.
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X2 on the new Spicer's. I only wish other parts were being made so good and at a very affordable price.
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There are seven total grease zerks and they are all on the front-end's steering system. They're easy to find on the moving steering linkages and the ball joints that the knuckles pivot about when you turn left or right.

Using a tube of the red grease formulated for Chrysler vehicles will insure you don't use a grease that is incompatible with the factory grease that is in there now. Most auto parts stores have separate tubes of grease for Chrysler, Ford, GM, etc.

This will help... http://jeep.us41.org/lube/index.html
I bought the Mobil1 grease they showed in that link at Pep Boys for $9. Now I just need a gun.

Why don't they have Zerks in the drive shafts?
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Because the factory u-joints are sealed and don't have zerk fittings. Sealed u-joints are typically good for at least 100K miles so it's no big deal. For how I use my Jeep, which does not involve wheeling regularly in deep soupy mud where greasable u-joints are a good thing, I prefer sealed u-joints on my driveshafts over greasable aftermarket u-joints.
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Because the factory u-joints are sealed and don't have zerk fittings. Sealed u-joints are typically good for at least 100K miles so it's no big deal. For how I use my Jeep, which does not involve wheeling regularly in deep soupy mud where greasable u-joints are a good thing, I prefer sealed u-joints on my driveshafts over greasable aftermarket u-joints.
I have 114K so I guess I'm going to ask how hard is it to replace them, and how much are parts?
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U-joints like the Spicer 5-785x, a very good upgrade for the factory installed driveshaft 5-297x u-joint, are typically around $20 each. For stock driveshafts, you need three of those up front and two for the rear.

It's not hard to replace u-joints but it does take a little mechanical know-how to install them without damaging them. Stu Olson shows how here... Front Drive Shaft Overhaul - 1. That particular writeup is for the front driveshaft but the procedure shown there for replacing the u-joints is the same for the rear driveshaft.
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When you say front drive shaft that would mean for the front axle and rear would be for rear wheel drive?

What would the symptoms be for a failing ujoint, and what type of improvement would someone feel if they replaced a worn joint before it failed?
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When you say front drive shaft that would mean for the front axle and rear would be for rear wheel drive?

What would the symptoms be for a failing ujoint, and what type of improvement would someone feel if they replaced a worn joint before it failed?
Yes, front driveshaft is for the front axle. Since it is barely under load however, its u-joints seldom go bad as often as the rear driveshaft's do because the rear is the "driving" driveshaft.

Symptoms of a failing u-joint include vibration or squealing.
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Cool thank you. At 114K would it be wise to change them just to maintain them or wait till they squeal?
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Maintain them until they squeal or you have weird vibrations.
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Maintain them until they squeal or you have weird vibrations.
How do you maintain them if you can not grease them?
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U-joints like the Spicer 5-785x, a very good upgrade for the factory installed driveshaft 5-297x u-joint, are typically around $20 each. For stock driveshafts, you need three of those up front and two for the rear.

It's not hard to replace u-joints but it does take a little mechanical know-how to install them without damaging them. Stu Olson shows how here... Front Drive Shaft Overhaul - 1. That particular writeup is for the front driveshaft but the procedure shown there for replacing the u-joints is the same for the rear driveshaft.
Hi Jerry - Does the front drive shaft actually have 3 u-joints on it, or does the 3 include the two drive axles? Haven't been under mine yet but I always thought a drive shaft just had one on each end of it. Guess I'd better take a good look the next time I'm lubing the front end.
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Yep the front driveshaft has three u-joints. One at the very front next to the axle and two in the top CV joint next to the transfer case.
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Thumbs down

Who ever said "Greasing your Jeep is the easiest thing you will ever do to it" was an opinionated @ss hole and I would really like to give him a piece of my grease gun upside the g0d d@med head!!!!!

The amount of profanity that just spewed from my mouth while greasing the "Wranglenater" as I call it was way too immense for an "easy" job.

Although I really think the trouble was all in my $13 grease gun I just bought brand new from Harbor freight tools tonight. The end went on the Zerks easily but would only come off with channel locks and great force. I am wondering if it is because the hose fitting is new and has to "break in"

I am so friggen tired from greasing the thing that I do not even want to go for a ride now to test all my hard work.
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I never had that much of an issue with greasing the jeep, maybe its just your fitting. Mine pops on snug, but isnt anywhere near difficult to remove.
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^ wow. just, wow.
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Just wait till you have aftermarket adjustable everything!

You'll need alot of grease and pumping!

My JKS Discos alone took about 2 pumps new to fill the bushings. They should come out with JJ's JKS discos!
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^ probably the Harbor Freight special

And I'll remember to stay away when you do a spark plug change
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I think you get what you pay for at societies real high price. Beings the $9 tube of grease was almost more expensive then the $13 gun I guess I can not complain. At least I got all of the grease in the zerks.
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I never had that much of an issue with greasing the jeep, maybe its just your fitting. Mine pops on snug, but isnt anywhere near difficult to remove.
I'm in the club that has had multiple serious fits trying to get the grease gun fitting off the zerk.

I dunno what it is that gets them on so they won't come off but it's happened to me probably at least once or twice each time if I have an extended greasing session due to how my zerks my TJ has. I've completely removed the grease gun fitting from its hose thinking it might have been grease pressure holding it onto the zerk but that didn't even help.
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^ probably the Harbor Freight special

And I'll remember to stay away when you do a spark plug change

Ha funny you should mention that. I almost went to Pep Boys to buy plugs to do sometime in the next four days. With out getting distracted from the Grease topic is there anything I should know about changing the plugs?
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I'm in the club that has had multiple serious fits trying to get the grease gun fitting off the zerk.

I dunno what it is that gets them on so they won't come off but it's happened to me probably at least once or twice each time if I have an extended greasing session due to how my zerks my TJ has. I've completely removed the grease gun fitting from its hose thinking it might have been grease pressure holding it onto the zerk but that didn't even help.
I have never had that issue on the front end...maybe I am a lucky one. However on the upper part of my control arms, there is no way to get to the zerks without removing the arm. The zerk is hidden inside the bracket, and I cant get my grease gun into it
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I'm in the club that has had multiple serious fits trying to get the grease gun fitting off the zerk.

I dunno what it is that gets them on so they won't come off but it's happened to me probably at least once or twice each time if I have an extended greasing session due to how my zerks my TJ has. I've completely removed the grease gun fitting from its hose thinking it might have been grease pressure holding it onto the zerk but that didn't even help.

I unscrewed the fitting off of the hose as well on a few of them. I had to really pry on them to get them off. Easy in Hard out is how children get stuck in places they do not belong. There is more explanation in the red lights over colorado then there are in these damned fittings.

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