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Old 10-25-2010, 11:00 AM   #1
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How to be a BEAST in the snow..

I currently have a stock 04 TJ with Uniroyal Laredo AWT tires (brand new from the dealership when I bought it) and I'm wondering if they will perform well in the snow or if I should look for some upgrades. If I upgrade them I want to go 31" with an aggressive tread (of course) to make the jeep look better.

Any other upgrades I could do? My biggest goal is to be able to pull out of situations when they get stuck. Also, in that regard I have no stock tow hooks/loops so where should I attach a strap to my jeep?

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trailer hitch?
I do have one of those, but what about the front? Any options there or should I just always pull from the rear?
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Tow hooks on the front.
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A couple of tow hooks like the ones on this Jeep will run you about $20 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._X_Hardtop.JPG

And something like this for the back
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A tow strap and your set.
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I just spent a couple of weeks researching tires, I'm looking for the same thing you are: good looks, good snow performance.
I settled on Big O Big Foot XT. I found a review by googling that tire, they said it cleaned out great in mud and snow, road noise is supposed to be good. Alas, they only had 3 in stock, so I haven't gotten them mounted yet.
also, they have a 3 year 'no questions asked' replacement policy.
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I just spent a couple of weeks researching tires, I'm looking for the same thing you are: good looks, good snow performance.
I settled on Big O Big Foot XT. I found a review by googling that tire, they said it cleaned out great in mud and snow, road noise is supposed to be good. Alas, they only had 3 in stock, so I haven't gotten them mounted yet.
also, they have a 3 year 'no questions asked' replacement policy.
Those look awesome! Wonder if I'd be able to sell my current tires for anything since they're brand new..
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One of the best (free) things you can do to get better performance in the snow is to "Air Down" your tires, they float on top the snow better that way. Aggressive tread in snow is not always a good thing, it tends to "dig in", which gets you stuck. An all terrain tread is better in the snow, more edges to bite the snow, give you more traction. "Siping" your tires also helps in the snow.
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Read through this thread: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tire...ons-66296.html for some tire comments, including mine on GY Silent Armors.

I have the stock tow hooks off the front of my 04 LJ that I'll sell you. PM me if you're interested.
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One of the best (free) things you can do to get better performance in the snow is to "Air Down" your tires, they float on top the snow better that way. Aggressive tread in snow is not always a good thing, it tends to "dig in", which gets you stuck. An all terrain tread is better in the snow, more edges to bite the snow, give you more traction. "Siping" your tires also helps in the snow.
How far can I air down in the snow? I guess it depends on how much actual roadway is exposed and how fast I plan on going right? Any general guidelines?
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How far can I air down in the snow? I guess it depends on how much actual roadway is exposed and how fast I plan on going right? Any general guidelines?

Go low and slow.......with emphasis on slow.
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How far can I air down in the snow? I guess it depends on how much actual roadway is exposed and how fast I plan on going right? Any general guidelines?
As little as 5 lbs of air pressure provides allot more traction. Depending on temp, snow pack and tires, you may need to go a little more or not so much. You have to go out and try and see what works for you and you’re Jeep/tires.
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I just spent a couple of weeks researching tires, I'm looking for the same thing you are: good looks, good snow performance.
I settled on Big O Big Foot XT. I found a review by googling that tire, they said it cleaned out great in mud and snow, road noise is supposed to be good. Alas, they only had 3 in stock, so I haven't gotten them mounted yet.
also, they have a 3 year 'no questions asked' replacement policy.
Goodyear Wrangler DuraTracs. Are highest rated in their class an approved/recommended for Emergency Vehicle use.
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One of the best (free) things you can do to get better performance in the snow is to "Air Down" your tires, they float on top the snow better that way. Aggressive tread in snow is not always a good thing, it tends to "dig in", which gets you stuck. An all terrain tread is better in the snow, more edges to bite the snow, give you more traction. "Siping" your tires also helps in the snow.
This depends on how deep the snow is. If the snow isn't deep enough to drag your pumpkin, keep 'em aired up so they dig down to the solid ground where there is traction. Otherwise you're just hydroplaining on the snow.
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This depends on how deep the snow is. If the snow isn't deep enough to drag your pumpkin, keep 'em aired up so they dig down to the solid ground where there is traction. Otherwise you're just hydroplaining on the snow.
That is where floatation comes into play. We wheel in 25 to 30 foot of snow on the east side of Wa. St. up in the Blue Mountains. We air down to 2 to 4 lbs and literally float over the snow. "Siping" your tires is good to give you more edges to grip the snow and give you more traction at any depth of snow.
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Read through this thread: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tire...ons-66296.html for some tire comments, including mine on GY Silent Armors.

I have the stock tow hooks off the front of my 04 LJ that I'll sell you. PM me if you're interested.
Someone linked to my thread!! I feel giddy
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That is where floatation comes into play. We wheel in 25 to 30 foot of snow on the east side of Wa. St. up in the Blue Mountains. We air down to 2 to 4 lbs and literally float over the snow. "Siping" your tires is good to give you more edges to grip the snow and give you more traction at any depth of snow.
Exactly!

My interpretation of the OP is that the stock TJ is a DD and they're looking to pull stuck people out of the snow. If you're trying to pull people out, you need to get down to where the traction is & airing down is not gonna allow that.

For DD conditions for most people in the snow (assuming <12" of snow), wouldn't want to air down that much, especially if they salt the snow like here in Chicago. If you're gonna air down that much, especially in cold weather, would you recommend beadlocks?

For all you fun-loving beasts who don't care if you're on a road or not; air down like a mudder and float till your heart is content.
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do any of you run BF goodrich mud terrains in the snow? how are they?
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if you want to be awesome in the snow: Detroit TrueTrac's front and rear, with studded Goodyear Duratracs.
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I just bought my first Jeep TJ w/ a 2" lift and 32" BFG Mud Terrains and am anxious/nervous to see how they perform in snow. Myy wife said it's going to be a bad winter this year.
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I just bought my first Jeep TJ w/ a 2" lift and 32" BFG Mud Terrains and am anxious/nervous to see how they perform in snow. Myy wife said it's going to be a bad winter this year.
Farmers Almanac says it's supposed to be a mild winter, in the midwest, anyway.

Sure hope so!! HATE snow with a passion.

Plain Jane Uniroyal Liberators, 33x10.5, from Walmart work VERY well on my Jeep!!
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I just bought my first Jeep TJ w/ a 2" lift and 32" BFG Mud Terrains and am anxious/nervous to see how they perform in snow. Myy wife said it's going to be a bad winter this year.
Generally mud tires work well in deep fresh snow, but suck on icy hardpack. Think about what a non-studded snow tire looks like (lots of small openings and biting edges) compared to a mud tire (big smooth blocks of rubber). They're not unsafe, but use extra caution until you get used to them. Spend some time in a slick parking lot; it's fun and educational.
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my 31 x10.5 x15 dayton timberline a/t did very well last winter but was only tested to about a foot of snow
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do any of you run BF goodrich mud terrains in the snow? how are they?
I had the BFG MTs (not KM2s) on my '02 F150 and they were awesome in ANY snow on that heavy truck! We had >10" snowfall overnight, the highway only had 1 lane plowed and folks were driving 25mph. I flew past them @ 55mph in the unplowed snow without even a slight shudder!

I don't know how they will work on a vehicle as light as a Jeep though.
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I can't wait to go beasting in the snow again this year! I wish I had the clams for some lockers. Maybe next year!
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First year for my TJ, I am running General Grabber AT2's, run Nitto Terra Grapplers on my F-150 and find them to be an outstanding snow tire. Travel the WVa Turnpike a great deal in the Winter and have never had an issue with fresh or packed snow. Put the Generals on my TJ cause I liked the look and they are very quiet on dry road.
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Myy wife said it's going to be a bad winter this year.
What does your wife say about this year? In CT we got some of the worst snow Ive ever seen.
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tires are everything

Having grown up in Vermont and spent a number of years heading out every morning at 5am (before the plows hit the roads on weekends) to get the ski lifts turning, I do know a bit about driving in the snow and snow tires. The truth is that most of the time to drive in winter weather you dont need big-lug tires. For off-roading in the winter, then yes. But MOST of the time what's on the pavement is actually a slushy mix of ice and snow, because the plows are out. So really what you need is a tire with a lot of biting edges that can channel the slush and "grab" when it's slippery. If it's a year round tire I prefer the Michelin LTX M/S - lots of edges and the ride is very smooth, it doesnt vibrate your teeth out in the Wrangler. Otherwise if you are really concerned about it, get a dedicated snow/ice winter tire. Nokian makes the hands-down best winter tires, but you will pay for them.
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One of the best (free) things you can do to get better performance in the snow is to "Air Down" your tires, they float on top the snow better that way. Aggressive tread in snow is not always a good thing, it tends to "dig in", which gets you stuck. An all terrain tread is better in the snow, more edges to bite the snow, give you more traction. "Siping" your tires also helps in the snow.
totally agree..tsl trxs mts are great in the snow but i might try out the duratracs this season.
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As a Southern Californian I have a question -

What's snow?
Isn't snow what politicians spout forth?

Can you drive in it?

I always wear hip boots when around them.

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