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Old 06-19-2007, 05:25 PM   #1
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How to install stainless steel brake lines?

hi,

i want to install my ss brake lines next weekend.
could you please tell me how this has to be done?
or is a good wite-up available out there in the web...?

i don´t feel good when i do things at the brake system because every mistake could be my last one...

thanks in advance.
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check that out http://www.4x4xplor.com/TJ-brakelines.html

dont forget extra brake fluid

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thanks, that´s a good write-up with pictures!!!

i think installing the front brake lines shouldn´t be a problem.

what´s about the rear brake line? is there also a write-up?

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not much difference... Dont forget to bleed them.. writeup link in the write up page above..
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not much difference... Dont forget to bleed them.. writeup link in the write up page above..
i´ve already seen it.
i hope i can do all that without any problems.

do i really need some new "Copper Crush Washers"? my tj is only 1 yeare young...
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do i really need some new "Copper Crush Washers"? my tj is only 1 yeare young...
yes you do. Once you crush them they are "trash".
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:10 PM   #7
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will I need new lines for my 3" lift?
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if you don´t use disconnects and drive only on the road you don´t need it.
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will I need new lines for my 3" lift?
I've read that you should be fine unless you disconect your sway bar.
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then I will need them. Whats the cheapest I can get them for?
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stock fronts from YJ i've heard are perfect. (confirm?)
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stock fronts from YJ i've heard are perfect. (confirm?)
they are 4" longer than stock TJ lines.
if you buy them new as a replacement part you could buy some SS lines for a few $$ more instead.

i heard that SS lines will give a better brake handling. is that right...?
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I've read they work well. What is the cheapest steel lines I can get?
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what is the size of the "Copper Crush Washers"?


i would buy the goodridge SS brake lines.
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no idea on the CCwashers but dont you have the brake lines and the bolt at home? Use that as a tamplet.. best i can think of...

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the brake lines came without the bolt. i have to use the old bolt again.
but i think i can measure the hole in the brake line.

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that would be great then man just bring the lines with ya and find one that fits.
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I would think that new crush washers would come with your kit. Mine did. The rear is not as important, as it bolts to the center of your axle, and will not see the extension that your front brake lines do.
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you say that the rear stock brake lines are long enough for 2.5-3" lift?
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Just use your old copper crush washer. I just did my front brake lines for the RE kit I did... Need to torque and bleed the hell out of them.

Get good brake tools or use a high quality box wrench....no Chinese wrenches here.
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the washers came with the brake lines. they were hidden in a little small plastik bag behind the installation manual...

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they are 4" longer than stock TJ lines.
if you buy them new as a replacement part you could buy some SS lines for a few $$ more instead.

i heard that SS lines will give a better brake handling. is that right...?
I have my doubts. The stock TJ brake lines only shortcoming (pun intended) is their length.

mrblaine I'm sure could chime in on the stock lines and their quality. There are other areas you could upgrade for better braking than the brake lines. It would probably take crazy pressure to even rupture a good TJ line. For better braking, a better choice would be better rotors and pads, dual piston calipers, or even Vanco's Big Brake kit if you have large tires on your TJ.

I THOUGHT I needed the Vanco kit for my TJ as my pedal travel was HUGE. After talking with mrblaine, my biggest issues was my rear drums being out of adjustment. After doing that, the brakes were VERY responsive, even with 33's. Now I STILL need to put on front rotors and pads as my rotors are REALLY grooved from getting stuff stuck there while wheeling, but it brakes MUCH better now.

To me, SS brake lines is more about show than actual effectiveness. Either way, if your tires rub at full turn, you risk breaking a line, I know this from experience. If you look at the pic below, you can see how we had to shorten the hard line and rebend it to work. You can also see where the tire was rubbing. I was turning back and forth while giving it gas (still stuck tho) and this was the result.



I think you'd be better off running your hard line to the inside of your frame, then getting some of the longer YJ lines and just running them to your brakes vs buying the SS lines.
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the washers came with the brake lines. they were hidden in a little small plastik bag behind the installation manual...

Glad it all worked out for you. All I can tell you about extending the rear brake line, is that I did not, on mine. I have a 4" suspension lift, with no problems. I did extend the front brake lines. I still have the extension for the rear, in the box. It all came together in one package.
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stock fronts from YJ i've heard are perfect. (confirm?)
Yeah but the stock YJ hoses have a rubber hose section. Pay the couple of $$ more and just order new SS ones for the TJ.

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