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Old 11-07-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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How to remove the roll cage?

Dont tell me all the safety stuff about the importance of having one. Is it a couple of screws to take out or how does it work?

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:31 PM   #2
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Why do you wanna remove it?

And just get out there and look where it sits in the tub. Your gonna have to do that anyway when you remove it. Someone telling you is just as effective as you going out to the Jeep and looking

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:34 PM   #3
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Why do you wanna remove it?
I love the look of old Jeeps like the CJ-3A. Its still hot in texas so Im going to take the soft top off, the doors off, and put the window shield down. Do you know how to remove it?
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Ok im going to go check right now brb
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Having the windshield down is likely illegal onroad, but you just remove two bolts on the outer sides to fold that down. Take it off the hinges to fully take it off. If I was you and liked the classic look, I would remove the two bars that are to the left and right of your head, above the doors, and put the windshield down. This way it has the classic one bar in the rear look, but still has a chance of saving your life in a rollover.
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remember...you won't have any seat belts....and you're gonna die.

Good luck.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #7
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remember...you won't have any seat belts....and you're gonna die.

Good luck.
x2.

Hold on to that steering wheel tight.
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Thanks guys
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Dont tell me all the safety stuff about the importance of having one. Is it a couple of screws to take out or how does it work?
Sadly, this is why they turn it into LAWS
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:09 PM   #10
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You mean like this?
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You mean like this?
Now, did your jeep come with the straps to secure the bars by the doors?
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You mean like this?
This is what I was thinking, because at least you would have seat belts and half of a roll cage, but pleasee don't do it. Windshield is fine, but you need that cage
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Having the windshield down is likely illegal onroad.
It was legal in Ohio. I had a 74 cj5 and the state troopers said it was no problem. I believe they said I had to have eye protection. For me I couldn't go over 50 though. I caught a few bugs to the face and decided a rock from a truck would really make me unhappy.
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This is what I was thinking, because at least you would have seat belts and half of a roll cage, but pleasee don't do it. Windshield is fine, but you need that cage
I wonder if you can remove the curved part in the back?
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I wonder if you can remove the curved part in the back?
As cool as the CJ7 roll cages looked, hacking off the rear of your cage isn't the right way to do this. The middle hoop needs support.
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I wonder if you can remove the curved part in the back?
They are welded to the B pillars.
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I wonder if you can remove the curved part in the back?
Taking the cage out is a bad idea. Unless you plan on putting a better one in. Over all. Leave the cage alone.
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I say do what you want and let Darwin sort it out. I hope he knows the dangers of removing the cage and at that point it's his decision. We've all made modifications to our rigs before. Who is to say his personal preference is wrong? Would I do it? No. But I have wheeled a CJ5 with only a light bar, "roll cage". Only be as stupid and you feel comfortable. That's my motto. Oh, and don't let anyone borrow it if you make it unsafe.
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I say do what you want and let Darwin sort it out. I hope he knows the dangers of removing the cage and at that point it's his decision. We've all made modifications to our rigs before. Who is to say his personal preference is wrong? Would I do it? No. But I have wheeled a CJ5 with only a light bar, "roll cage". Only be as stupid and you feel comfortable. That's my motto. Oh, and don't let anyone borrow it if you make it unsafe.
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I'm going to be taking mine out, but putting a much more stable one in, leaning towards GenRight or Posion Spyder. Not sure which though as I'm back on forth on them. And yes I agree with GPDude. Let him do what he wants, but I'd feel guilty if I told him how to take out the roll bar and something happens
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I have kind of wandered about this too. I know what I see when I look at were the roll bars are bolted down, but I have wondered if there was anything that I wasn't seeing. Is it really as easy as it looks to remove them?
My reason for removing them is that I want to paint them and I was thinking that it might be easier to pull them out vs taping everything off.
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Super easy, All you need is a torx bit set and a ratchet. Torx 45 and 50 if memory serves. There are 2 torx bolts holding the main hoop to the sides of the tub diectly by the seats, Those are the "saftey bolts" with a post in the center of the torx bolt. You need a hollow center torx bit to pull those. Then there are 4 torx bolts holding the main hoop to the bottom of the tub on either side, then 2 more holding the rear hoops to the back of the tub.

Pull all of those out and lift up. Done and done. Some jeeps have a goopy sealant that was globbed on the tub before it was painted. My 05 has it, and it was all over the main hoop torx bolts. Just spend some time with a tiny screwdriver and pick the goop out of the bolts before trying to remove them or they'll strip.

Sometimes getting it out is a pain in the butt as the main hoop "feet" will hang up on the sides of the tub. Use a rachet strap on the main hoop to suck those in a few inches and you're golden.
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I'm going to be taking mine out, but putting a much more stable one in, leaning towards GenRight or Posion Spyder. Not sure which though as I'm back on forth on them. And yes I agree with GPDude. Let him do what he wants, but I'd feel guilty if I told him how to take out the roll bar and something happens

If you're looking at weld in kits, look at the BTF front kit and the Poly Performace rear kit. They work well together and it is a cheaper way to go.

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If you're looking at weld in kits, look at the BTF front kit and the Poly Performace rear kit. They work well together and it is a cheaper way to go.

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Never heard of BTF but have heard good things about Poly. I don't have my rear seat anymore so it wouldn't really matter a whole lot on the cage. Just need something to protect me better in case of a roll over and won't buckle. Thanx for the info Now I have more thinking to do
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I had the Genright sport cage in my sights as well but I just could not justify the extra $$ for the same protection as the Poly/BTF setup.

Now if you're looking at the full replacement cage or the fastback cage, then I would definitely go with Genright.
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I had the Genright sport cage in my sights as well but I just could not justify the extra $$ for the same protection as the Poly/BTF setup.

Now if you're looking at the full replacement cage or the fastback cage, then I would definitely go with Genright.
Something to consider if you can't weld is to talk to a local shop (if you have one). A genright cage fully welded (probably not including the shipping costs) is $2500. I haven't done anything about a cage yet, but the last time I checked, a local offroad shop quoted me $2000 for a cage I believe. He told me this covered a basic cage, but price went up if I wanted additional bars welded in, or the seats tied into the cage, etc. etc. Just something to think about if you have the sources.
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Just check the shipping... I imagine something that bulky would be a wee bit pricey. That being said I have several Genright products on my Jeep and they are all TOP notch. So you'll be getting a very skillfully welded cage.
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Just check the shipping... I imagine something that bulky would be a wee bit pricey. That being said I have several Genright products on my Jeep and they are all TOP notch. So you'll be getting a very skillfully welded cage.
Definitely not arguing the fact that they produce good stuff. I have heard a lot of good things about them. For the price though, you may be able to drive into a shop and get a somewhat custom cage for the same price or cheaper...this is also good if you can't weld. If you are a welder though, with limited resources, you probably cant beat the price of a precut/prebent cage that you weld in yourself.
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Definitely not arguing the fact that they produce good stuff. I have heard a lot of good things about them. For the price though, you may be able to drive into a shop and get a somewhat custom cage for the same price or cheaper...this is also good if you can't weld. If you are a welder though, with limited resources, you probably cant beat the price of a precut/prebent cage that you weld in yourself.

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The subject of this thread has so much Fail in it that I can't even think of what to say... other than wanting to remove the rollbar, just for looks, is probably the most wrong unsafest thing to want to do to a Jeep than I have ever read in 20+ years of having owned Jeeps.

It's a wonder we have enough people that survive their teens to continue on the human race. My 22 year old son, as a few here know about, barely survived his two main clueless moments that literally almost killed him... after having been told countless times not to do both things that almost killed him... literally. And knocked him out of his chances to join the SEALs after he had been given a contract so he could enter into BUDs, the entry point into the SEAL organization. Pure stupidity on his part.

I'm sorry to be so down on this subject but dammit, some things are just so stupid that it's hard not to comment on them.

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