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Old 10-18-2010, 01:07 PM   #31
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the new one felt fine; resistance all the way throu cycle. the mech, however, does not return to top without the spring. It still functioned no prob (till I locked it.) I contacted the vendor via Amazon and he replied quickly that he has had several calls regarding people's concern on the design change, but that once installed no one had any problem. I am guessing my ham-hock hands bumped the lock mech off line....fudge.

and to twiches: the old ones were very corroded; bubbling thru the steel (you can see in top pic, that cancer spot under the latch goes all the way thru) and very stiff operation even after dousing them with penetrating oil. I needed new ones, and for $30 they were worth it.

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Old 10-19-2010, 06:44 PM   #32
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it was the handle spring after all

so I got the door panel off (wasn't bad at all...maybe a 5 minute job.) and pushed the lock bar back into release position. door opened, and I took a peek inside. The spring in question is basically an assist spring - it ensures the swivel hinge returns to correct position, which assists in actuating the lock rod. the lock rod has it's own spring, but mine was heavily oxidized and sticking. after soaking it in liquid wrench, it actuates on its own.

I left the new handle in, since I know how to fix it if it happens again, but I would caution in buying the kind I linked to. No we know why they're $20 cheaper than anyone else.

to the vendor's credit, he did respond quickly and genuinely wanted a happy customer....
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:38 PM   #33
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s3nt3nc3d This write up is amazing. Ever since the day i bought my jeep my drivers side handle was loose. I didn't know what was wrong. I do have the service manual for my jeep but it isn't as complete as your write up. I followed your write up step by step and when i got the door panel off i could see that the previous owner of my jeep must have had the door apart for some reason, and they put the keepers in Upside down. Thats what was making my handle loose. I took out the keepers and put them in right side up and it made a world of difference. And by following your write up it took me only about an hour to do the entire fix.

Thank you so much for doing this write up. It's very good.
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:45 AM   #34
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Thanks

I made this write-up because even the factory service manual isn't super clear on this procedure...though it helped a ton compared to the info I was able to find. Following the FSM still took me a considerable amount of time to figure everything out. Sometimes people just need PICTURES. lol
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:18 PM   #35
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Thanks for posting this, it was most helpful for replacing the window regulators.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:55 AM   #36
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Excellent write-up!! The Factory Service Manual leaves an awful lot to be desired.

And - perfectly timed too. My right outside handle has been getting hard to open, it finally quit working at all. Yesterday morning I started taking the trim panel off - but got distracted and never even finished getting it off.
Your guide will be a big help.

Hopefully they'll be made into a sticky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Excellent write-up!! The Factory Service Manual leaves an awful lot to be desired.

And - perfectly timed too. My right outside handle has been getting hard to open, it finally quit working at all. Yesterday morning I started taking the trim panel off - but got distracted and never even finished getting it off.
Your guide will be a big help.

Hopefully they'll be made into a sticky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. Definitely needs to be made a sticky!
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:53 PM   #38
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Good job. One thing I would like to add. Any time anyone has the inner panels off, drill a hole thru the inner steel ( WINDOW UP !!!!! ) so you can lubricate the back of the outer handle mechanism. Remember, an once of prevention is worth a pound of swearing when it breaks!!
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:18 PM   #39
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I still haven't gone back to finish mine - but on my Chev Astro Vans (3 of them) the outer door handle breaks after about a year's use. Aftermarket handles last even less time. OEM cost from a dealer is only about $5 more.

They are a pain to swap out - you can't reach the nuts that hold it on, or the rods, - everything has to come apart.

I Drilled a 1" hole (hole saw) in the door frame's back edge to access them - now it's a fairly easy fix without taking everything apart.

Don't know, that may work on the Jeep door handles too.

Once I get back to it I'll let ya know.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:44 PM   #40
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i'm glad u did this, mine are starting to get rusty looking
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:37 PM   #41
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Great write-up!

S.T.I.C.K.Y. for when I'm ready to do mine.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:02 PM   #42
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After finding this thread, I replaced mine today. The original poster was right all the way thru. Because of his sharing, the job went really quick. I never would have attempted to remove the windows, but it would have been impossible otherwise.

Thanks for the writeup!
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Glad it could help!
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:31 PM   #44
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i need some help i replaced my door handles and the lock doesnt work..... i locked it to test out the handle and i cannot unlock it with the key or by hand on the insed the "plastic" lock inside the car wont move into full unlock it goes half way and doesnt let the door unlock ...
can someone please help me?
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This happened to me last weekend when I replaced my handles. You're going to have to remove the door panel (it is possible with the door closed) and unlock it. I suspect I have a malfunction with the latch mechanism, but a new one is $80 at the dealer.
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Yep... this is most likely due to a common problem with the lock linkage getting gummed up. Remove the door panel with the door closed...it's a pain to reach a couple of the screws, but it can be done with a little swearing. Then find the lock linkage and manually push it up or down until the door unlocks. Then soak the linkage with WD-40 or a good lubricant. Test it 150 times and make sure everything works good and then reassemble it.
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i need some help i replaced my door handles and the lock doesnt work..... i locked it to test out the handle and i cannot unlock it with the key or by hand on the insed the "plastic" lock inside the car wont move into full unlock it goes half way and doesnt let the door unlock ...
can someone please help me?

go back and start reading this thread post #23. maybe it'll help
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:56 AM   #48
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Just replaced mine a few weeks ago and I had the exact same problem. Fixed it by rolling down the window, spreading the window seal and WD40'ing the handle. In my case the L shaped lever on the handle was stuck. Focus the spray on it and pull the handle a few times as though you were opening it. The try the door lock switch and voila should work.. BTW.. S3NT3NC3D instructions were awesome!

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Great write-up!

S.T.I.C.K.Y. for when I'm ready to do mine.
Done. I created a new sticky thread to place all the How To's and Write Ups and this thread has been added.
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Done. I created a new sticky thread to place all the How To's and Write Ups and this thread has been added.
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Quick question, does anyone know the name of the part for the "lock " or latch i need to replace it in order for it to lock and unlock properly.
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1) did your replacement handle have that latch spring I mentioned in earlier posts?
-of no, then you might want to reconsider the replacement

2) either way, soak the heck out of all lock rod hinges/springs w/ penetrating oil, let dry, then soak again w/lithium grease.
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Quick question, does anyone know the name of the part for the "lock " or latch i need to replace it in order for it to lock and unlock properly.
What I asked for at the dealership was the door latch mechanism. I suspect that is what my problem is.
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1) did your replacement handle have that latch spring I mentioned in earlier posts?
-of no, then you might want to reconsider the replacement

2) either way, soak the heck out of all lock rod hinges/springs w/ penetrating oil, let dry, then soak again w/lithium grease.
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so, when putting in the new handle, I saw that the old one (upper) didn't come with a spring like the old one (lower.) I figured this would be a big deal but the thing functioned fine until I locked it. So, is this my problem?

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there is no way I can see to take the spring off the old handle. any ideas?



sorry it ca,me like this, i called the stealership and they said it might be the latch mechanism to old and corroded, and they want 80 dollars to replace it part and labor.
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What I asked for at the dealership was the door latch mechanism. I suspect that is what my problem is.
how much did you pay for it?
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Haven't gotten it yet, might try to find on in a wrecking yard first
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This thread just saved me a lot of time taking my windows off! Thank you!
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adjustments?

I did this a bout a year ago (and it would have been much easier if I had seen this post first!), and ever since the doors are difficult to open from the outside. They ope the same as ever from the inside, but you have to really yank the new exterior handle. I've been just 'living with' the problem, but I'm going to be selling the jeep soon and would like to fix it. Any suggestions of making an adjustment so they open easier?

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