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Old 11-03-2011, 01:00 AM   #61
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You could try looking at all the bars that work the latch rod and see if any parts of them appear to be adjustable...the resistance may all be in the handle though and if that's the case, it may not be adjustable in the slightest. You could try lubing everything up good too.

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Old 11-05-2011, 01:29 PM   #62
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Thank you s3nt3nc3d... I love this write up! It should be in the "write ups and how to" section.... LMAO!!!

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Nice write-up. It's more involved than I imagined and removing the glass doesn't look like much fun. I just need to tighten up my outside door handle as it's a little loose - can I do that without removing the glass?
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:01 AM   #64
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Not real sure if you'd be able to get a screwdriver down there without removing the glass or not...it's really not that difficult at all though to remove it. A little time consuming the first time since you're trying to follow the directions step by step, but it takes all of about 10-15 minutes once you've got it all figured out.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:50 AM   #65
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Started this project and couldn't figure out how to get the window out of my way....thus why I ended up on this thread. Typical male looking for directions AFTER the fact...

Thanks for the step by step instructions and photos. I replaced both handles in less time than it took me fiddling around with one door before reading your directions. I love the jeep enthusiest comraderie.
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OK, handle replacement was a snap, but have the same problem. Can't unlock. Not even from inside the door. Help!!!
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Old 01-07-2012, 03:20 AM   #67
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Pop the door panel off (it's a real BIATCH to do it with the door closed, but it can be done) and check to make sure the rod is hooked up to unlock it...if everything is hooked up, spray all the joints with WD40 and manually move everything around to lube it all up.

Then test everything out BEFORE putting the door panel back on so if it doesn't work, you don't have to play monkey again...lol.
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There is a threaded rod that connects to the latch mechanism. My initial problem after replacing the handles was that I had to really yank on the handle to open the door. I'm not sure how you are *supposed* to adjust this, but I popped the threaded end of the rod out and popped it back in so that there was more tension on the rod. The door opened easily but the lock wouldn't unlock once it was locked. I readjusted that rod to about halfway between the original spot and the new one and now everything works. It was a pain to get the interior panel off, but it is possible even with the door locked

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There is a threaded rod that connects to the latch mechanism. My initial problem after replacing the handles was that I had to really yank on the handle to open the door. I'm not sure how you are *supposed* to adjust this, but I popped the threaded end of the rod out and popped it back in so that there was more tension on the rod. The door opened easily but the lock wouldn't unlock once it was locked. I readjusted that rod to about halfway between the original spot and the new one and now everything works. It was a pain to get the interior panel off, but it is possible even with the door locked

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Thanks! This was where the problem was. I got the door unlocked, but haven't had the time yet to readjust the rod. At least I can open and close the door now.
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I just found this thread since I am replacing my door handles. Regarding Big EZ-I got my replacement handles from Crown, and it has 2 springs. The top is a flat coil and holds the door handle against the car (mine was broken and is the reason I am replacing it). The second one, shown in the photo, keeps the L lever up, thus holding the rod in the door up (even though it stays up by itself).

But I had to do several modifications to my new handle, luckily checking it before shoving those saw tooth clips in place. Pulling on the outside handle did not pull the L bracket up enough to pull the rod up enough to open the latch. I solved this problem 2 ways. First I notched the L bracket (and now that I read this entire thread, I just noticed that Big EZ's bracket came already notched). Second, one arm of the spring rests against the same stop the L bracket hits, and further prevents it from a full swing. I solved this by drilling a hole in front of the stop, putting the end of the spring on the other side and trapping it with a screw. Now the handle works perfectly (too bad I have to go through it all again on the other side, since I am changing from chrome to black handles).

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Here you can see the original handle (L bracket is thinner so has more travel), an unmodified Crown, and Crown with notch cut out.


This shows both the notch and the cut down screw holding the spring in place.


This is all you see from the outside-just a small stainless steel 1/2 inch #6 SS screw.

I managed to get the handle out without removing the window. Hopefully I will be able to get those stupid saw tooth pieces in the same way...
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Quick update-the rear saw tooth wedge came out easy when I hammered it up. The front one was very tight up against the window, but using long needle nosed pliers I was able to grab it and twist as I pulled and it came out without removing the glass.

As for re-installing them, the back again went in easy. For the front, I used a bench grinder and shaved down the inside top. This way, there was plenty of room to maneuver it in place then I put a flat tip screw driver on top and tapped with a hammer to lock it in place.

In other words, I was able to replace the door handles without removing the side window. All it took was a little modification to the wedge.

Now for the other side...


Bottom wedge has edge ground a little
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You do realize it only takes about 5 minutes to remove and reinstall the window, right? lol

Creative for sure...but it probably took you longer to do all that than it would have to just remove the window. If I remember correctly without looking back at my write-up, I think it's only 4 screws total (2 clamping the window and 2 up in the window seal thing)...then the glass just lifts right out of there.
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Yeah, but according to the service manuals I checked, you also have to remove the divider (I have a vent window) and pull down some of the rubber channel, some of which I siliconed to hold better. I checked with my buddy that owns the shop that did all the fabrication and race work on my Jeep, and he agreed about removing the window (and he said that most other cars are much easier to change the handle on). Besides, I like a challenge. And when I hear you have to pull the window, then I will struggle to find a way to avoid it. Most of the time spent was trying to correct the design flaws in those stupid Crown handles. It only took a couple of minutes to grind down the side of the saw tooth bracket, and it dropped into place pretty easily.

But I really did appreciate your tutorial, and it was very well photographed and written. I did try to remove the handle before searching the forum and reading your thread, and I had no idea how those handles were held in place. Usually I am pretty good at figuring things out, and I have replaced door handles on other cars, but I was lost here. Your photos were a life saver. Thanks again.
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Day before yesterday I finally got around to replacing the passenger side door handle. Now that I knew what I was doing, it went really fast (again without removing the glass). And with those wedges filed down on one side, it is really very easy to drop them in place from the top using needle nose pliers. Then I just used a screwdriver and hammer to lock them in place.
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Hi all,
Thank you for this nice tuto.
I would like to change my handle door on my Jeep Wrangler TJ 2002.
Where i can find it?
I found it on the net, but the most of one are replacement or OEM...
the quality is similar than the original?
Could you advise me?
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Hi all,
Thank you for this nice tuto.
I would like to change my handle door on my Jeep Wrangler TJ 2002.
Where i can find it?
I found it on the net, but the most of one are replacement or OEM...
the quality is similar than the original?
Could you advise me?
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I got mine from quadretec. And I actualy JUST got done replacing my passenger handle. Man that was a pain in the ass.. Now I need to get some new plastic knob things that snap the panel into place and some new plastic anchers that hold the middle part of the panel to the door cuz they broke when I unscrewed the screws and no the middle part isnt attached and how in the hell am i going to get that stupid spring back in to the window knob!!! Uhg,

Next project is trying to get some bolts off to put on some side bars.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:41 PM   #77
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Thanks dude, I have to replace my passenger side soon, your post will help me out...

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Wow, this was awesome. Worked when I had to replace the broken rod-clips on the latch release. Thanks!
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Thanks a million for this write-up! I tried this a few weeks ago without removing the windows and gave up. Found this thread and was able to put in my replacement handles today with no problem! It was a little tricky getting the glass out of the door due to those clips at the bottom but once I figured out the technique it was simple.

Thanks again, even the wife likes the look of the new door handles!

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yeah - if you find one on the net that is about 25% cheaper than all the rest, it will probably arrive without that L-shaped spring. If so; it will FAIL.

Send it back, and pay the extra cash to get one that's close to OEM as possible.
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much thanx

thank u a bunch for the original walkthrough on the handle replacement. did the passenger side today and the hardest part was getting the door panel back on in the end. i think the driver side will go much faster. suggested tool: a nice stout pair of extended hemostats with a curved nose did the trick on the cotter pin and the wedge key restraints. thanx again and have a good one.
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It was a little tricky getting the glass out of the door due to those clips at the bottom but once I figured out the technique it was simple


i found that by inverting\rotating the innermost clip, the glass slid out w/o even having to pull the cable back.
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Hello all. First post. Been lurking for a while. Great info. It's good to be here.

So I got a pair of door handles for my TJ. When I checked them the drivers handle didn't return properly. Called the vendor, and they were great, but the replacement they sent had the same problem.

The 3rd time I asked the vendor to check before sending and it still came like this!

Picture attached of my epic door handle collection:



Am I going crazy or are these door handles rubbish? I'm losing patience because each handle took a week to arrive!

It's not worth fitting, right?

FYI the passenger door handle I received looks good and returns properly. The handles on my TJ both return properly.... they just rattle.

What to do? Ask for my money back and go elsewhere? Any recommendations? How much do Jeep handles cost?

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No replies? I'm kind of surprised

I sent these junk Crown handles back for a refund.

Does anyone have an opinion about where I can get door handles that are not made by Crown please?
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I'd try to take the factory ones apart and see if any of the bushings are worn out and replace the bushings with one of bushings from the new handles. Might also try a little silicone grease.
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Just read you sent them back, sorry. Might just need to clean the old ones up. Check out eastwood's, they have all sorts of things to bring back hinges ad door hardware for classic cars and should also work well for your factory door handles
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Thanks, this is something that I have to do when I get home, and now you just took all the guess work out for me...
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Yeah not impressed by Crown at all. Never heard of them before this.

The door handles on the jeep flap around so it's more than just play in the bushings (like a broken spring or something - there's a pic earlier in this thread that shows 2 springs.). Also the drivers side has some surface rust.

I will check out Eastwoods though. Thanks for the tip.

Got my RMA already. Not prepared to mix & match bits of handles... why should I have to? That's the problem with cheap crap these days. You have to fix them before you fit them. F' that!!

I just want a reasonable "fix once and forget" door handle solution. I'll save the messing around for the fun stuff!

So where did your handles come from and how are they holding up?
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Thanks for the write up, very helpful. I did however skip taking out the window an cut out the depressed metal part of door interior that is just behind the exterior handle to make an access panel so this will be easy if ever needed done again. I cut out that rectangle and then sanded it and threw some bed liner on there to ensure no rust would develop due to it being an exposed area. once everything was reinstalled youd never see it again unless you need to replace in the future. I had only a cutting wheel for my grinder and it made a fairly quick job of cutting the hole. Just FYI if anyone wants to make a little easier process out of this.
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Cant believe the price the stealership wanted. $133 each door handle and to do install was $230 per door, Qtec had the door handles for $21 each. I am hoping the quality holds up and have not gotten the handles yet just took off doors and preped them for the handles. Hopefully it will go smoothly.

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