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Old 01-10-2014, 03:28 AM   #1
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How to tie down a Jeep - on a trailer

I have been flat towing my Jeep but recently picked up a trailer to haul it on.
I have always used axle straps front and rear to tie down other vehicles.
The rear looks simple enough to run a strap around the axle but the front doesn't appear so easy.

Where/how are you guys securing the front end on a trailer ?
Anyone have Pics ?

Here is how I tied down my Samurai and I could easily put a strap around the axles:

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I had to trailer a short distance two weeks ago, wondered the same thing.

I used tie downs from each D-ring on my (JCR) rear bumper, then winch up front for one connection and then tied down from the front extraction hook on the opposite side. Basically frame points on each corner. It was a 10 mile tow, and I wasn't too worried if I was right or wrong. My brake lines mostly mess up axle tie down positions. I think the problem with tying down only the frame is that there is still room for suspension to compress which could cause play in the tie downs and a hook could come free.

I see new cars on trailers at dealerships and they tie down by the wheels using straps over the tires, which would favor axle tie-down as the appropriate method. But with the suspension travel on Jeeps, it makes sense to tie down both axles and frame.

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There are as many opinions about the "correct" way as there are ways to do it. None are perfect, all have pros and cons.

If you angle the straps like you show on one end, that only works if a strap doesn't fail since the object of most of the tie down methods is to hold the vehicle in place front to back as well as side to side.

One can also make the case that trying to rip the axle out from under a rig by pulling the axles away from each other and then bouncing the rig down the road is a bit tough on the control arm joints plus it depends on compressing the springs to keep the straps tight.

Another case can be made that restraining the vehicle by the frame is not that great due to a big bounce really bouncing hard against the tie downs and can tear them up pretty readily.

My preference is to pull the front tires up against a bulkhead and then strap the tires down so they can't move (tires have to stay inflated to work). Then I have straps that go straight up and over the rear tires and straight back down so the suspension can move slightly fore and aft to keep the loading to a minimum on the suspension joints.

None are perfect, all methods work to some degree and it's up to you to find what you are the most comfortable with.
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^ What Blaine said.
Of all the guys in my club that trailer their Jeeps, I don't think any two of us do it the same way.

Chains or straps. Axles, frame, or tires. Very debated topic.

I've been doing it this way for a few years with no problems:
I usually only chain the rear axle. If traveling more than a couple hours I will go to the frame in the rear as well. I have some J-hooks that I use for the frame holes in the front, with some ratchet tie down straps. The hook clusters also come in handy when your friends call you to haul their junk on your trailer. It will happen.




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Thank you for the info and ideas !

Sounds like I will just have to throw it on the trailer and see what I can figure out and which way seems like it will work.


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^ What Blaine said.
Of all the guys in my club that trailer their Jeeps, I don't think any two of us do it the same way.

Chains or straps. Axles, frame, or tires. Very debated topic.

I've been doing it this way for a few years with no problems:
I usually only chain the rear axle. If traveling more than a couple hours I will go to the frame in the rear as well. I have some J-hooks that I use for the frame holes in the front, with some ratchet tie down straps. The hook clusters also come in handy when your friends call you to haul their junk on your trailer. It will happen.
Curious, how do you chain the rear axle with the brake line in the way? I've looked/thought about it for a while and just ended up going to the bumper, but would prefer going to the axle.
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Curious, how do you chain the rear axle with the brake line in the way? I've looked/thought about it for a while and just ended up going to the bumper, but would prefer going to the axle.
One length of chain. I have a 2 foot piece of fire hose in the center. Under the axle, over the diff, and back out under the axle on the other side. It was the only way I could figure out how to do it without rubbing a brake line on my D44.
I have to lay on my back on the trailer and fish the chain around, but it only takes a few minutes.
The fire hose is barely visible in my pic.
I have a ratcheting chain binder too, but rarely use it.
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One length of chain. I have a 2 foot piece of fire hose in the center. Under the axle, over the diff, and back out under the axle on the other side. It was the only way I could figure out how to do it without rubbing a brake line on my D44.
I have to lay on my back on the trailer and fish the chain around, but it only takes a few minutes.
The fire hose is barely visible in my pic.
I have a ratcheting chain binder too, but rarely use it.
I'll have to try this. Thanks
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^ What Blaine said.
Of all the guys in my club that trailer their Jeeps, I don't think any two of us do it the same way.

Chains or straps. Axles, frame, or tires. Very debated topic.

I've been doing it this way for a few years with no problems:
I usually only chain the rear axle. If traveling more than a couple hours I will go to the frame in the rear as well. I have some J-hooks that I use for the frame holes in the front, with some ratchet tie down straps. The hook clusters also come in handy when your friends call you to haul their junk on your trailer. It will happen.


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Curious, how do you chain the rear axle with the brake line in the way? I've looked/thought about it for a while and just ended up going to the bumper, but would prefer going to the axle.
Well I had assumed I would be able to route an axle strap under the brake line and on top of the axle tube as I had on my samurai..... now I have to go look at that again.....



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How do you like your savvy gas tank skid? I'm thinking about getting one
It's great. Easy install. Comes with new straps, extra mounting hardware, even new push pins for the fender liners. Gained some crucial room behind the diff too.
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I towed it 700 like this. Never had any problems. Chains are mounted to D-ring holders in front and to trailer hitch receiver in rear. Straps are hooked to the slots in the frame that I believe is where the factory ties the Wrangler down when shipping.
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DOT laws apply here. California has the most stringent of all. Anything over 2500# or 3500# one of those require 4 point tie downs. Then set parking brake and leave tranny in neutral. Don't hold me on the weights it's been a while since I dealt with transport. For the four point you can use the same devise as long as it has four separate fasteners to the hauling devise.
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There are as many opinions about the "correct" way as there are ways to do it. None are perfect, all have pros and cons.
That pretty much nails it.

I use 4 straps. Up front, I attach them at the tow hooks. In the rear, I use the large frame holes.

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DOT laws apply here. California has the most stringent of all. Anything over 2500# or 3500# one of those require 4 point tie downs. Then set parking brake and leave tranny in neutral. Don't hold me on the weights it's been a while since I dealt with transport. For the four point you can use the same devise as long as it has four separate fasteners to the hauling devise.
Why would you leave the tranny in Nuetral ??
Why not leave it in 1st gear and the t-case in 4 low ??

On my Samurai, when I strapped it down inside the toyhauler I only had inches to spare around the sides and front. I strapped it down by the axles then also strapped it down front and rear by the bumpers to slightly compress the suspension. I didn't want it to move or bounce around at all and it worked great.

I am going to throw the Jeep on the new trailer in the morning and figure out how I am going to tie it down.
I will post up some pics (if I remember) for critique and suggestions.

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If it's auto the park paw can break from the rocking and if manual the engine will rotate ever so slightly. It also relieves pressure on the drivetrain.
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Just have four points crisscrossed at no less than 45* in opposing directions and the straps you use should have 50% or higher of the weight of the vehicle. So a 5000# vehicle each tied down should be no less than 2500 # capacity
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If it's auto the park paw can break from the rocking and if manual the engine will rotate ever so slightly. It also relieves pressure on the drivetrain.
Interesting, I have never heard this and have always hauled with a vehicle in park/gear and if it is 4 wheel drive I've had it in 4 low.... also always set the parking brake too.

Shouldn't the vehicle be pretty tight/stable and not be "rocking" if it is tied down correctly ??

I am not trying to be an a$$ but rather looking for more info as you seem to know what you are talking about.


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Parking brake should be set. Honestly we have had to globe trot our vehicles always done it this way. Did it till the day my father died. Just think about The dynamics of the vehicle while in motion. It will still squat, roll and all that. You want the straps to do their job.
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I use axle straps up front and strap to my D rings on rear bumper.
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I am not a fan of hooking anything to my tow points on my bumpers, IMO the jeep bounces as it goes down the road and may loosen up the tie downs. I go around the axels and to the corner of the trailer. Ill do it may way as (Frank Sinatra) says. I also flat tow sometimes



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Some pics of where you guys are wrapping the axle straps around on the front would be great !!
I don't see anywhere I can run mine through, but maybe I am just not looking at it correctly.

I ran mine up on the trailer for the first time last weekend and can strap to the rear axle but I don't see anything on the front to hook onto except through the wheels or the front D rings on the bumper.

Here is how I tried it :

Rear strap wasn't hitting the shock shaft, just the boot.

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