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Old 10-22-2013, 10:21 PM   #1
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I found a Jepp I'd like to purchase but...(please help!)

so first take a look at the link to the ad for this Jeep:

2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport Utility 2D

A little of my background...I've been working in the auto parts industry for atleast 10 years of my life either part time or full time. I currently have a part time Job at an auto parts store here in Honolulu, so I get parts for cost plus 5% (really cheap) I get free shipping too. I can also turn a wrench. I'm not a mechanic but I've done a few timing belt jobs, swapped out some struts and a bunch of other stuff. So I am not afraid to take on a project. I just don't want to be submersed into one.

Now back to the Jeep. I Love this Jeep. Inside and outside it is clean. It looks great and I know has the potential to be a Jeep I'd be proud to call my own.

It has some issues that I need help from you guys to see if it still may be worth buying. The only reason I'm considering this is because the sellier just offered it to me for 15k and I am going to try to get it for 13-14K if you guys think these problems are fixable without to much effort.

So 2 problems.

1st. is the a/c. No Freon in the system. Completely dry. I know I have to find the leak, change the drier, condenser and Evap. But to tell you the truth, I'd be okay taking my time to do this job down the road since everything pretty much has to be changed out anyways.

2nd. problem is that the Jeep feels like it is wandering on the road and when I shift it into gear, like going form 2nd to third, if I release the clutch kind of hard it feels like the ass end of the jeep kind of "kicks" out to the side a little.

I think the biggest wandering issues is because of the tires and alignment. But what do you guys think? Do worn control arms bushings cause that? Are the hard to replace? what else do you think will cause the stablility issues? My biggest concern is that the Jeep feels safe on the road for my wife to drive.

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Old 10-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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Not too sure about the rear end kicking problem but hopefully a more experienced member will know because that there is an lj with 54k for about 14k which is not bad at all. The ac problem i wouldnt worry too much about, just take the top off! I have no ac in my jeep and i do just fine

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Old 10-22-2013, 10:34 PM   #3
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CRAP! Lol I just saw that I misspelled "Jeep" in the thread title...Can a mod fix that for me please!

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Not too sure about the rear end kicking problem but hopefully a more experienced member will know because that there is an lj with 54k for about 14k which is not bad at all. The ac problem i wouldnt worry too much about, just take the top off! I have no ac in my jeep and i do just fine
Thanks! I'm hoping to get some input here as well. I'm pretty sure at this price someone else will buy it, I'm just looking to see if that should be me!!!
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:51 PM   #4
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Do you even ever turn on the a/c in Hawaii?
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:00 AM   #5
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If it were me, I would ask the seller to perform the needed repairs to make the jeep feel safe and track correctly on the highway. then invite you back for another test drive. if it checks out, make the deal. Otherwise, I'd keep looking. You do not want to purchase a jeep that drives squirrely.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:46 AM   #6
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Appears that a drop pitman arm was erroneously installed, which may be the cause of the steering issues.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #7
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Do you even ever turn on the a/c in Hawaii?
Lol sometimes!

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If it were me, I would ask the seller to perform the needed repairs to make the jeep feel safe and track correctly on the highway. then invite you back for another test drive. if it checks out, make the deal. Otherwise, I'd keep looking. You do not want to purchase a jeep that drives squirrely.
I get you. If I do that he price goes way up though!

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Appears that a drop pitman arm was erroneously installed, which may be the cause of the steering issues.
Can you explain a little more about what you see here?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:02 PM   #8
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Don't need the drop pitman arm. Probably causing more harm then good. Also not worth it to change the bushings just buy a fixed aftermarket control arm like zone and you'll be much better off for now.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:21 PM   #9
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looks like passenger rear shock leaking. Drop pittman arm not the end of the world causing issues described. Check bushings on rear control arms and sway bar and track bar. Rear end wandering sounds like something worn out or loose back there or as suggested an alignment. Hard to tell from pics, but looks like front tires are cupping a little?
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:45 PM   #10
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I personally would not spend 13-15 thousand dollars for a vehicle with problems. I would keep looking if I were you. You could also take it to a suspension specialist, and get an estimate based on the problem. Then, take it to a air conditioning specialist, and make an offer based on the cost of both repairs. You will not be happy with the Jeep, if you drive it, knowing it is not in good condition.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:45 PM   #11
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Take this advice with a grain of salt, I am no technical source. IF I could get this LJ for a price I could live with and know that I could get any problems fixed, I would pull the trigger. I went over 500 mi for my LJ, with the possibility of replacing the tranny once I got it. Turns out I haven't had to, I might one day, or an assortment of problems. I own a Jeep, that says it all. You seem a little exited by this one, though I sensed some excitement from #1 and #2? You have to make the decision, you have to live with it. You can fix any problem, short of rusted frame, bent frame and even that if it came to it. You make the decision, it will be a fantastic purchase, it will be yours. PS...if you're going to spend that kind of money......get an LJ. Have you seen the KBB on this model? I know it has some problems, but in good condition it's over 18K.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:35 AM   #12
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IF you could get this for 13 or 14K.......not the 19K asking price.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:36 AM   #13
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My suggestions:

If this is your first Jeep, you may want to check out some others with mild lifst and see if they drive similar. A short wheel base, lifted vehicle does not drive/respond just like a car. It could have issues, or it might just be the way it is.

If you have a local Jeep or off-road shop w/ a mechanic, see if you can take it there for an inspection. Looks like the place selling it is a dealer, so they shouldn't have a problem with have an independant inspection. Paying a mechanic who knows Jeeps a $100 to take a look at it may be money well spent. Ask them to give you a written estimate for repairs (if any) and you can use that as a bargaining point on the price - which I think is high, but don't know the market over there.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:49 PM   #14
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Thanks again Gentlemen. I was excited to get this but I am trying to be smart about my first Jeep purchase. The general concensus in this and my last thread is that I should put the money towards something more stock without all this issues right out of the gate.

I'm looking at another one. I am being as patient as I can be! I'll just waite until I finally buy my new jeep to make another thread. Thanks again for your time guys!
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Thanks again Gentlemen. I was excited to get this but I am trying to be smart about my first Jeep purchase. The general concensus in this and my last thread is that I should put the money towards something more stock without all this issues right out of the gate.

I'm looking at another one. I am being as patient as I can be! I'll just waite until I finally buy my new jeep to make another thread. Thanks again for your time guys!
I wouldn't worry about making a new thread until you buy a Jeep, keep making them as you narrow it down, or add to this one so we can help you with any questions you may have towards the Jeeps you are looking at.

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