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Old 12-22-2008, 09:11 PM   #31
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(I got the jeep itch).
ya, it is very rapid onset, and it is worse than herpes. unfortunately there is no cure or topical cream. pretty much, you gotta keep on scratching. oh ya, and torx bolts are satan's creation. replace them with regular bolts whenever possible. i'm thinking chrysler bought stock in torx bolts right before they started using them in the jeeps. as far as tools go you should probably have a good set of torx sockets and a regular socket set; PB Blaster should never be in short supply; a Haynes or Chilton manual; an extra set of arms would also be useful; and of course don't for get a big hammer......for smashing stuff when you get frustrated with torx bolts. you need to learn ot love your jeep, you have to treat it as almost a marriage. there will be good times and bad, ang you will get through them if your a real "Jeeper."

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Old 12-22-2008, 09:23 PM   #32
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Thanks a ton for the info, I guess I have to put down naming ceremony on my to do list. What kind of wrench takes off the doors? even though it is a freezing 40 degree weather im still going to try it out. Can you lower the windshield with the hard top on? I can't find out for myself because we got the jeep before the dealer could start on the inspection and prepping. I hope they find the nail in the tire. Oh and who has 31 inch tires on a stock jeep with a 30 spare tire??

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Old 12-22-2008, 09:36 PM   #33
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Thanks a ton for the info, I guess I have to put down naming ceremony on my to do list. What kind of wrench takes off the doors? even though it is a freezing 40 degree weather im still going to try it out. Can you lower the windshield with the hard top on? I can't find out for myself because we got the jeep before the dealer could start on the inspection and prepping. I hope they find the nail in the tire. Oh and who has 31 inch tires on a stock jeep with a 30 spare tire??
I dont remember thee wrench size. i took off the nuts and never put them back on they are a PITA to keep on. I wouldn't recommend putting the windshield down with the hard to on, you could get some lift under the top while driving and rip the top off. plus it won't be as stable. Also i dont recommend putting the windshield down unless you have a full roll cage. the stock TJ's don't have a full cage. the rollbars attach to the windshield so w/ the windshield folded down the bars will be just hanging there. plus windshield down driving is kind of a bad idea on the road. unless you like bugs in your teeth, and rocks in them too. just my .02 though. you can fit 31" tires a stock wrangler. there might be a little rubbing on the inside fender if you turn sharply, but i had 31's with no lift for a while and was fine with it. i would not recommend using a 30" spare with 31" tires. you could really mess up your differential if you had to use the 30" spare. 1" may not seem like a big difference but your axles and diffs will beg to differ. if you put the 30" spare on there the gears in the axle are traveling at different speeds b/c the bigger tire has to travel more to make one revolution, where as the smaller tire needs less. some guys argue that you'll probably be fine if you are only going a short distance (10 - 20 miles or so) but IMO it is not worth the risk to me.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:00 PM   #34
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Ok thanks for the insight. I was wondering about the windshield for shortlived joy riding around my suburb. Wow I did not know about the rollcage though. Ok only roll the windshield down when the tops down. And the 30 inch tire is the backup it came with, im just wondering how and why.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:12 PM   #35
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the how and why is probably b/c the previous owner had 30" tires on it and bought only 4 31" tires b/c they were cheap or broke. i would strongly recommend getting a 31" spare, even if it a used one. the $75-$100 spare is worth more, in the long run, than a new axle, differential, etc. but, like i said before that's just my opinion.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:49 PM   #36
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:27 PM   #37
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:34 AM   #38
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i would not recommend using a 30" spare with 31" tires. you could really mess up your differential if you had to use the 30" spare. 1" may not seem like a big difference but your axles and diffs will beg to differ. if you put the 30" spare on there the gears in the axle are traveling at different speeds b/c the bigger tire has to travel more to make one revolution, where as the smaller tire needs less. some guys argue that you'll probably be fine if you are only going a short distance (10 - 20 miles or so) but IMO it is not worth the risk to me.
I'm not a mechanical expert but this doesn't make sense to me...two wheels traveling at a different speed...isn't that the reason why cars have a differential? Look at all the cars that have those mini donut tires for spares, that apparently works OK at least long enough to get somewhere that your main tire can be repaired.

Maybe I don't drive my vehicles hard enough but I can't remember the last time I actually needed to use a spare. Spending money on a matching fifth tire would depend on how you use the truck I think.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:46 AM   #39
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that is mainly for driving off-road. if you are in 4wd and you have a smaller spare then you will destroy your transfer case and diff. (i should have clarified that better initially). your chances of damaging the diff on the road is a lot slimmer, but still possible. i guess my point should have been: don't use the 30" spare while in 4wd, be it full time or part time.
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:57 PM   #40
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:25 PM   #41
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that is mainly for driving off-road. if you are in 4wd and you have a smaller spare then you will destroy your transfer case and diff. (i should have clarified that better initially). your chances of damaging the diff on the road is a lot slimmer, but still possible. i guess my point should have been: don't use the 30" spare while in 4wd, be it full time or part time.
For an open diff, this is no issue, at least for damage to the drivetrain. For a locked diff, it WILL damage/destroy the diff. With a limited slip, well, I'm not so sure, but I wouldn't drive it with a different size spare.

If you hang a different size spare and have to hang it, do so at your own risk as you will have handling issues which may be minor, but can be catastrophic in certain braking/handling situations.

ALWAYS best to have a like spare in the ready or have AAA or a buddy to haul you away if you get a flat.
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Old 12-24-2008, 06:02 PM   #42
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Thanks guys. I'll defineatly invest in a matching spare
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:23 PM   #43
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Its a 60th aniversary 01 around 120k miles and I got it for 8,900.
I plan on plugging the screw in the tire, somehow fixing the rust on the corner of the window(any help fixing that?) painting the rear view mirror base so it won't corrode. And learning how to take the top off and the doors. What do I need, I think i need a good torx wrench set but what else?
Not a bad deal. Darn sure looks sweet in the pics. My favorite color for a vehicle too.

Just got an '01 60th Anniversary with almost 87,000 miles on it that I gave almost $14,000 for. Knew the person that traded it into the car lot and bought it almost immediately after he traded it in. They didn't even have time to jack the price up, as they knew that I knew what they had just allowed for trade in value.

Guess you aren't getting a chance to enjoy all the snow I'm getting buried with over the last week, are you? Man, these are sweet in snow. Almost more fun than summer!! NOT!!
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