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Old 06-15-2013, 10:30 PM   #1
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i hate my lift

so i got this jeep last year it came with the lift . i think it is rough country 3.25 the shocks suck and the springs and everything and why is the TC dropped so much i seen a few lifts out there where the TC is not dropped and they have a taller lift . what is the reason for the TC drop ? and do i have to have the TC dropped how do i reverse the TC drop ? do i need one when i get my new lift . i want to get the rubicon express . and do a MML and a 1" body lift ?

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Old 06-15-2013, 10:33 PM   #2
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The rough country 3.25 kit is a hybrid spring 2.5 lift and BB. To answer your questions there are two ways to eliminate a TCase drop. 1 is to use a SYE and CV shaft in the rear. The other is to use a MML without a BL. The whole point is to eliminate driveline angles thus eliminating driveline vibrations. I recommend option 1 with a suspension lift then to go from there with the BL and MML. The SYE and CV shaft are considered a requirement by most to lift past 3". Hope this helps!

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The other is to use a MML without a BL.
I think you mean with or without a BL. A BL won't affect driveline angles.
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:17 PM   #4
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well yes it did answer thanks . i was thinking of getting the MML and a BL . I have a rubicon so i would only need a drive shaft correct? well i really do not like the 2.5 with the BB which means budget boost i think so i will be buying a new lift i hate this lift
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I think you mean with or without a BL. A BL won't affect driveline angles.
Yea sorry, my bad. I was typing fast.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:01 PM   #6
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I've been very happy with my re lift, got a sye and cv driveshaft too. Hit me up if u have questions

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Old 06-19-2013, 11:56 AM   #7
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4i think all i would need would be a driveshaft because i got the sye built into the rubicon already . am i right?
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4i think all i would need would be a driveshaft because i got the sye built into the rubicon already . am i right?
Yes the Rubicon models do not need a SYE as they already have a fixed output. You would just need a new custom driveshaft.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:08 PM   #9
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Yes the Rubicon models do not need a SYE as they already have a fixed output. You would just need a new custom driveshaft.
You might not need a new drive shaft depending on lift and legnth of the stock one. Not really sure as I dont own a Rubicon.
As far as the TC-Drop removal. You need to support the trans and transfer case with a jack under the trans. You will need to loosen the 4 nuts for the trans mount. You can take them all the way off but not necessary. Then you can remove the 6 skid plate bolts. Once you have them removed you will have to jack up the transmission until the skid plate is sitting flush with the frame. You will need the original or noew shorter bolts. Then bolt the skid plate back directly to the frame. Then tighten the mount nuts.

The part that I had a problem with is the shifter. The PO bent the shifter to fit TC-Drop and then I had to undo his work. He even moved my entire center counsel back about an inch. When I removed TC Drop I had to move counsel back and bend shifter back. Was a pain in the a$$.

On the plus side. I use to have a vibe when taking on in 1st gear. Now that I removed the TC Drop the vibe is gone and runs smooth.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:45 PM   #10
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awesome so i just looked at longer driveshafts not bad on price either so i will by one of those this week . so my last thought or question is . when i put the new longer driveshaft in and raise the transfer case back to stock . will i have to do anything else or will i be good ? like would i have to add a MML? which i was going to do any way and i was thinking of adding a 1inch body lift too . all i am doing is going to buy some blistien shocks and up grade everything that sucks the springs are not that bad but the shocks are leaking and the tcase is way to low . thanks for all the help ..
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Your Rubicon could benefit from a double cardian driveshaft. This thread has lots of confusion in it. So please keep researching!
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:35 PM   #12
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thanks i'll check it out
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:28 PM   #13
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The rough country 3.25 kit is a hybrid spring 2.5 lift and BB. To answer your questions there are two ways to eliminate a TCase drop. 1 is to use a SYE and CV shaft in the rear. The other is to use a MML without a BL. The whole point is to eliminate driveline angles thus eliminating driveline vibrations. I recommend option 1 with a suspension lift then to go from there with the BL and MML. The SYE and CV shaft are considered a requirement by most to lift past 3". Hope this helps!
i am about to buy the lift it will be a rubicon express 4.5 or something comparable , now i do not want to drop the t case . so from what i understand if i do a mml and a rear drive shaft i do not have to drop it i am also doing a 1 inch body lift too
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This thread has lots of confusion in it. So please keep researching!
This. What do you dislike about your lift? Height, comfort, what? Don't click buy just yet - going from RC to RE is not exactly an upgrade.
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This. What do you dislike about your lift? Height, comfort, what? Don't click buy just yet - going from RC to RE is not exactly an upgrade.
It's actually a pretty good upgrade. Are there better lifts? Yes. Is the RE lift much better than the RC and a decent quality kit? Also, yes. Again, keep researching. There is a lot to learn still before pulling the trigger.
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I'll take RC's current Clevite bushing offering over RE's bushings every day of the week.

It's not an upgrade.
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I'll take RC's current Clevite bushing offering over RE's bushings every day of the week.

It's not an upgrade.
What about RE's imitation JJ? I have never even seen one (read about it in a mag) but I haven't heard terrible things...but you know how that goes. Of course I'd rather have a JJ or a DF joint but I will admit I don't know much about RE or RC junk (other than RE costs more monies and has an imitation JJ).
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I'd put RE and RC's joints on level ground. They're joints and that's where the similarities with JJ's end. They won't last 1/4 as long as a JJ and they don't use the same retention design.
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I'd put RE and RC's joints on level ground. They're joints and that's where the similarities with JJ's end. They won't last 1/4 as long as a JJ and they don't use the same retention design.
Fair enough, I'll have to check them out when I get a chance just for giggles.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:30 PM   #20
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What do you dislike about your lift? Height, comfort, what? Don't click buy just yet - going from RC to RE is not exactly an upgrade. quote:: OmniscientHiers


sorry been a while but when i bought the jeep the RC 3.25 lift was on it . the shocks are leaking bad i feel every bump as if i have nothing and the lift just seems cheap and the transfer case drop i hate it . what i want is a lift with out the t case drop . so from what i gather is 4 or 4.5 : inch lift new rear drive shaft . is the all i need for it? i am also getting adjustable control arms with the kit .
now do or do i not need the MML ? with or with out body lift do i need one ?

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