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Old 09-15-2012, 04:34 PM   #1
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I need help with my MML from zone!

As per the instructions, I cut 1/4" off of the stud coming from the mount, threaded the coupler nut onto it, set it on/into the 1" MML, and placed it back into it's original position in the engine compartment. I didn't torque anything down or locktite it yet, I just wanted to get a feel for where it'd all sit.

Problem is, the supplied bolts seem WAY too long. I'm not sure if I screwed up somewhere, which is why I'm coming to you guys. The supplied bolt that is supposed to go through the frame and into the coupler nut on the mount is going to stick way below the frame, not close to flush.

I'm going to post a picture in a second, but I'm at a loss...

Thanks for reading, hope you can help!

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Old 09-15-2012, 04:43 PM   #2
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Sorry for the crude drawing. The coupler sets flush to the bottom of the MML. Then there's the slight amount of room taken up by the frame which it sits on. As you can see by the picture, even if the supplied bolt threaded into the coupler all the way (which it doesn't, there's a half inch used by the stud on the motor mount, which places the bolt a half inch lower) it would STILL sit way below where it should be. I'm losing it..

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Old 09-15-2012, 05:50 PM   #3
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Holy crap, mods please delete this. What an idiot. Too little sleep, and too long under the Jeep. Wasn't thinking straight at all.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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Glad you figured it out.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:28 PM   #5
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Glad you figured it out.
Thanks! Hopefully I'll finish up with the suspension tomorrow otherwise I'll be calling in sick on Monday hahaha
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:35 PM   #6
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I still need to do my BL and MML. Maybe next weekend.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:38 PM   #7
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So, how did the MML installation go?
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:05 PM   #8
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So, how did the MML installation go?
Put it on hold for the night..going to get up early and bang it out. Hopefully it will go smooth, although the drivers side is going to be a little tougher since I guess the cross bolt won't come out, I'll have to take the entire bracket off the engine.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #9
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Did you do the suspension lift yet?
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:07 AM   #10
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Did you do the suspension lift yet?
Not yet, starting it right after the mml, which I'm heading out to do now. The 1.25" BL made a lot more of a difference than I expected to see, so another 3" on top of this is going to be awesome!
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:04 AM   #11
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That's great I can't wait to see my jeep with the BL and MML complete.
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Put it on hold for the night..going to get up early and bang it out. Hopefully it will go smooth, although the drivers side is going to be a little tougher since I guess the cross bolt won't come out, I'll have to take the entire bracket off the engine.
That is VERY common... I had to remove the bracket from the engine as well.
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That is VERY common... I had to remove the bracket from the engine as well.
It was actually much easier than I thought it'd be. When I cranked the first bolt loose I thought I was taking off the wrong piece, it went much smoother than I could have imagined.

After the 2 bolts from the mount into the frame, and the 3 from the mount into the engine, the whole assembly came down easy as cake.

Hands down hardest part (as it usually is) was getting everything precisely lined up so all the bolts caught..took a lot of up and down on the jack, and a lot of tapping left and right on the mount.

I took it for a test drive, it was pretty smooth..popped it into 4H and it seemed to behave as though it was in 4L. I know the directions said after the TC relocation bracket it might require some adjustment in order to shift properly. Didn't explain how to do that though...I'll look into it later, but I won't be using 4WD for a while anyway so I'm not rushing.

I didn't do the suspension, figured in case it's as big a hassle for me as the BL/MML I'll start it Friday after work to give me a good amount of time.

If anyone has any questions about the MML or BL, feel free to ask..I'll try to help while it's still fresh in my mind!
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It was actually much easier than I thought it'd be. When I cranked the first bolt loose I thought I was taking off the wrong piece, it went much smoother than I could have imagined.
Before and after pics?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:07 PM   #15
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I am 99% sure I'm going to start my BL and MML this Friday. I go the day off or work.
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I was hoping to get mine done this weekend but can't get a break the past couple of weeks. If I wasn't so proud I'd pay someone else to do the install for me.
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I am 99% sure I'm going to start my BL and MML this Friday. I go the day off or work.
Start early in case you run into trouble! Haha
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I was hoping to get mine done this weekend but can't get a break the past couple of weeks. If I wasn't so proud I'd pay someone else to do the install for me.
I hear ya. I won't let someone else work on my car unless it's something I absolutely can't do.
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In the mean time I'm keeping busy plasti-dippin' my bumpers and whatever else hahah
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I plan to start nice and early on sat and set all Sunday aside just incase.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:20 PM   #21
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I plan to start nice and early on sat and set all Sunday aside just incase.
Good call! Shoot me a message if you run into any snags
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #22
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Thanks sounds good.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:10 PM   #23
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I got this same lift waiting to go on. How hard would you say it is for mml and bl? I think im gonna have like 4 people helping out when its all ready to go in. Anything special I should do before or after? Or look out for
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I got this same lift waiting to go on. How hard would you say it is for mml and bl? I think im gonna have like 4 people helping out when its all ready to go in. Anything special I should do before or after? Or look out for
The BL was actually really easy, it's just 11 bolts. The MML is a little more difficult just because of the area you have to work in. I'd make sure to have:

- Some PB Blast or equivalent, that saved me a lot of trouble.
- A torque wrench
- A breaker bar (a lot of the bolts you'll be taking out have lock tite on them)
- Lots of extensions for your sockets. I think when I was working on the MML I was using about 2-2.5' worth haha
- A good jack, with some wood blocks to help give it height, I was using two pieces of 4"x4"
- A vice for the MML install (Gotta clap the mounts down to cut a stud)
- Something to cut the stud with (Hack saw or dremel work just fine)

Just something to look out for, after you get them motor mount off and cut the stud, you have to torque a coupler nut onto it. The mount is rubber on the inside and has sort of an outer metal casing. When you torque the coupler on, for me anyway, it misaligned the bolt hole on the other end (The metal casing moved one way, the rubber the other) ...like an idiot, I did it both times. I think it would be much easier if you leave the bolt through the hole while you clamp the coupler down, that was you don't have to smash it with a hammer 50 times with little 2" blows because there's no room to swing

All in all, it should go pretty quick with four people. I did it by myself aside for a quick helping hand on each side of the MML and it took me about 7 hours...and about 2 of the hours were spent trying to find the right tools. I need to get organized

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