I want a JK Unlimited. I admit, I never liked them before, but after a while, they grew on me. And I have found myself googling pictures of them, stopping at dealerships and looking at them, and have even considered doing a trade with my '05 TJ Sport for a JK Unlimited Rubicon.
Not having that car payment is awesome. I've been able to do a lot with that extra cash. I have done several projects on my house. Bought guns. Built AR15's. Bought a $1500 TREK Bicyle. Gone on vacation.
Plus, I bought my TJ brand new in '05. Lots of sentimental value there. I do regret not buying a Rubicon instead.
Instead of paying $300+ payments a month, I realize, overall, it would be cheaper to save that money and do the following to my TJ:
It's also a nice thought knowing I bought it brand new, and still have it. It has 75,000 miles as well.
But the temptation is still there for the JK as well
You could stop some of the big mods, and save up for a used JK. Pay for it with cash and have both jeeps. Or save up a little less, sell your TJ, put the TJ money on the JK, and still have a Jeep paid for. Just my 2 cents.
I sympathize - I have a 14 year old TJ w/ 85,000 miles, but I also have a list of about $12,000 worth of repairs it could use. Still don't want to get rid of it. If yours is in good shape, then keep it!
Hey, ease up on the guy. If he wants a JK it's ok. After all it is 2013, a new age. There's no need to hide in the closet, going to "those" sites and looking at JKs.
Seriously, I've had my 97 forever. Hated the payments when I got it so much I paid it off in less then 2 years. At 192,000 miles I thought about getting a new Jeep (there, now the whole world knows my secret).
But after doing some math (remember I hate payments) I decided to keep it. In the past 2 months, I've put in new bedrugs front and rear, corbeau heated seats, new stereo and speakers, all new ujoints front to rear, changed all the fluids, new control arms w/bushings, hub bearings, ball joints, track bars w/bushings, and inner axle seals(everything except the fluids were original parts). All new steering linkages are ordered and will be put on next month. Also new Kevlar 32" mtrs. Saving money by doing the work myself, That's about 6 months of new Rubicon payments I've spent so far. It already has the OME 2' lift, and I had the differentials replaced a few years back so I should be all set at a fraction of the cost of a new one. Even when the engine goes I figure about $2000 max, or another 3 or 4 JK payments. The 4.0 liter isn't a powerhouse but they last "almost" forever. The JK's are already on their 2nd version of the V6. They've never been able to make a V6 that consistently delivers as many trouble free miles as an inline six.
I am in the same boat. My TJ is a 98 and just a toy and not my DD. I also regret not buying a Rubicon but I have considered on either upgrading to a JK Rubicon or doing the whole mod list of; D44, SYE, Gears, and Lockers.
After reading this I might end up staying with the TJ. Plus I just put a new clutch and tranny in my TJ!
1998 Wrangler Sahara Moss Green and a work in progress!
Mods so far: Zone 3" Lift, Zone Nitro Shocks, JKS Front Adjustable Track-bar, JKS Disco's, 31"x10.5 AT, Cragar Soft 8's, OR-FAB Front Stubby Stinger Bumper, HighRock 4x4 Rear Bumper.
My son in law has a new JKU, his first jeep and no doubt, it is a nice rig. My son has a Landcruiser, 80 series, 1989 model year,, solid axle up front, and it is a really nice rig.. I have my 04 Rubicon, bought new and have no desire to pay over 35k for a new JK Rubicon.. I can completely rebuild my TJ twice, for that kind of scratch. Not only that, I'd have to spend another 5 or 6k to get a new JK up to par with my TJ.. Don't get me wrong, it's not about the money, it's more about the time and labor of love that has my TJ, finally right where both my wife and I, want it.. I just don't want to start all over again.. I'm reminded of a famous quote-- like what you have, and have what you like ! Happy wheelin to all
04' Rubi, with all the gizmos we need for long range excursions, / home modified excursion trailer;
96' Lexus 450, locked, loaded and ready to roll..
'12 VW New Beetle
Why are you guys so hateful?, we don't talk down on TJ's in the JK sections. We are all Jeepers..
Each successive generation is less like the original. My first rig was 4 banger, manual, no a/c. I beat the hell out of it knowing that it was cheap and built for abuse. It is what made me love it. Doors off and a safari top, and it was like driving an ATV everywhere.
I now have a hard top lj with a/c and cruise. It doesn't feel the same. Feel like i have to be nice to it because i paid up.
Everyone is different and if you like it rock on. I'm am undefined simpleton. The idea of a quiet, smooth riding, expensive car just isn't me.
"But honey, you can ruin a Jeep if you never take it offroad......"
Don't get me wrong, it's not about the money, it's more about the time and labor of love that has my TJ, finally right where both my wife and I, want it.. I just don't want to start all over again.. I'm reminded of a famous quote-- like what you have, and have what you like ! Happy wheelin to all
Exactly. It's not about the money for me either, it's more about the time I have put into my Rubi LJ. I would have two Jeeps in my driveway before letting my LJ go.
Ha! What timing. I just test drove a new JK yesterday. The brochure is sitting right next to me. As others have said, it is much more refined. Very quiet, and a lot more power than the 2.5 in mine. Oh, and it even had air conditioning! I liked it - a lot. But my TJ just feels pure. It's smaller, with a very mechanical feel, and at only 48k miles it's still practically new. If it were my DD I would trade up in a heartbeat, but I'm staying put for now.....
I had a 2002 TJ, sold it and bought a brand new 2011 JK Unlimited Rubicon. After driving it and only moderately wheeling it for two years, I went back to a TJ. Let's be clear here, this is not a JK/TJ thing, it was a matter of simple economics for me. Even though I paid cash for the JK when I bought it, I still had all that cash tied up in a vehicle. Additionally, modifications for the JK were, generally, more expensive than my previous TJ.
After reasoning through the math and getting over the emotional attachment, I sold the JK, paid off all my bills, except the house, and bought a nice TJ for cash. I also had money left over to do some modifications. Ultimately, it freed up cash for other purchases also, including being able to take weekend trips. Lastly, here in Va., this also got me out of the dreaded Va. Personal Property Tax issue, where I had to pay the state $900 last year just to own a newer JK!
I do miss the room of the JKU, but I actually enjoy the TJ more. Largely due to the fact that I'm not worried about taking it out in the woods and messing it up, and because I have additional discretionary funds now. Even after going through this process I still look at JKs and want one. However, I manage that by enjoying the hell out of the TJ I now have. Bottom line, as Jeep owners we all can't help but want the next upgrade, whether it's a modification, or a new vehicle. My vote is to keep what you have and continue to enjoy it. It's a nice looking rig, has low miles, is paid for, and gives you extra cash!
Good timing for this thread. I came over to do some research. I have a 2012 JKU Sahara, which I like quite a bit. It is my 1st Wrangler.
A friend's nephew is offering me his 99 TJ Sport with 197,000 miles on it for $2,500. It needs new tires and about $700 of work to be in good mechanical condition. It has the death wobble at 60mph (this is included in the $700 to fix). Below that it drives fine.
The JK is a year old and is already worth more than I owe on it per KBB trade in value. I have a company vehicle and a motorcycle so the JK only has 3,000 miles on it after a year. Part of that was I couldn't drive it for 3 months due to knee surgery.
Now I have to decide on options:
1) Sell the JK and use the $500/month to fix up the TJ
2) Fix up the TJ and sell it
3) Keep both and use the TJ as a more serious off roader but now I have to decide between the Harley, the JK and TJ for what to drive on the weekend.
So I may be going in the other direction JK to TJ.
Keep your eye out for a LJ rubicon. You'll get the D44s, lockers, T case, etc and would probably be cheaper than taking it to a shop and paying. If you are a junk yard DIY guy, then it might be worth adding the stuff to yours. The only JK I would want is the new ones with the good engine. I almost bought a JK, but the unlimited was too big, and the standard was too small. The LJ was the perfect balance.
__________________ my 06 LJ rubicon
2.5" SL, 1" BL, DIY highline, 35s with double beadlocks.