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Old 02-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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Arrow I want my front windshield lowered

Okay, here is the thing, I want to be able to drop my front windshield down. Although I have not started yet, I feel I may run into a few complications along with having no idea how to disassemble it. I have a 2003 TJ X and it has a plastic cover on the edges of the windshield and I don't think that the road cage will have support if I lower the windshield. Any help and advice will be valued. Also, let me know more or less how much this will cost me. I would like to make it as cost efficient as possible.

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:31 PM   #2
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Do you mean fold it down? Or make it smaller?

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Are you talking about hinging the windshield down onto the hood? It's actually in the instruction manual of your Wrangler. The only cost comes from buying the Torx for the bolts.
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Fold it down [forward] Atthehop.
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Yes Jeffreybomb hinging the windshield down onto the hood. I looked at the manual and it does not mention the plastic cover what so ever.
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You don't even have to bother with the plastic cover. The bolts you need to remove are at the front and back of the bar above both doors. You also have to remove the black bolts on the windshield hinges.
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Fold it down [forward] Atthehop.
The way your post was worded and when you wanted to know how much it costs to do it it was very confusing.
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I hear Atthehop. I asked about cost because I was under the impression that if I lowered my windshield that the road cage will not be supported by anything. I may have gotten it wrong. Alright Jeffreybomb thank you for the info. I will give that a shot. Is there anything else that I will need in advance? ie: Support?
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If your dropping your windshield and driving you really should have front cage additions with a dash and upper cross bar.
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You need to secure the windshield to prevent it from bouncing on the hood or it may crack. I assume you are going off road with it down and not on public roads.
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Thanks Irongrave, that is what I was concerned about. Ill look into that. I just did not know where to start.
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Actually Atthehop, I was thinking about driving on public roads. Simply not on speed mode.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #13
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Don't forget to take off your wipers as well.
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Actually Atthehop, I was thinking about driving on public roads. Simply not on speed mode.
You should check your local laws on what you need to wear if it is even legal in a vehicle.
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Hope you got some goggles
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You should check your local laws on what you need to wear if it is even legal in a vehicle.
LiftLaws.com is a fantastic website. According to the New York section:

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Windshields and windshield wipers are required in New York.
D'oh!

They're required in Illinois, too, but I took mine down just to try it out and drove around my neighborhood. It felt like I was driving a really big go-kart.
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I think lowered windshields look cool on older CJs with their simpler designs, not so much on the TJ. I lowered my TJ's windshield once & it just didn't look right to me so I never did it again.

That said, here's something that may be useful for those who lower theirs down... you'll find that some of the torx-bolts that hold the rollbar in place that has to be removed to lower the windshield are security torx bolts. That means they have a small pin in the torx opening that prevents the use of a standard security torx bit. No problem, that security pin is brittle & can be easily snapped off with a small punch & hammer.
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I don't recommend driving with the windshield down, but it's something you need to try at least once.

It may be practical for hunting or parades (or hiding from the Luftwaffe).
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I don't recommend driving with the windshield down, but it's something you need to try at least once.

It may be practical for hunting or parades (or hiding from the Luftwaffe).

Exactly, get it out of your system and you'll never do it again.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:18 AM   #20
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I did it and left it down for about a week a month ago. It was fun but I wouldn't do it permanently.

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Wesboy wipers [check] Shark_13 goggles [check] Jerry Bransford security pin [check]
I am aware that in New York, you cant do it Atthehop. But im planning on getting out of state plates. Would I have to follow the laws from where my plates are from or from New York? Thanks Jeffreybomb for the site. I agree Jerry Bransford looking at Jwolfer's photo it does look a tad out of place. I guess I will have to decision through trial and error guys. Jwolfer, why did you take out part of the road cage?
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you have to take out the front part of a stock cage to drop the window as there is nothing to support it. hence the need for front cage additions.

I personally hate the windshield on my rig and I now wont wheel with it even attached to my rig. I drove the pins out of the hinges so it was an easy on/off. It was only on the rig so i could keep the weather out of it. Now with a garage the window frame is laying in some back corner out of the way.
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You want to lower your windshield in NY now?
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I am aware that in New York, you cant do it Atthehop. But im planning on getting out of state plates. Would I have to follow the laws from where my plates are from or from New York? Thanks Jeffreybomb for the site. I agree Jerry Bransford looking at Jwolfer's photo it does look a tad out of place. I guess I will have to decision through trial and error guys. Jwolfer, why did you take out part of the road cage?
I would ask the local police on enforcement of NY laws on out of state registered vehicles. Most states require you to register all vehicles in the state you live in after 30 days.
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I am aware that in New York, you cant do it Atthehop. But im planning on getting out of state plates. Would I have to follow the laws from where my plates are from or from New York?
Of course you have to follow the local laws of the state you're driving in. It's not like you're going to have immunity from the law just because you have out of state plates. What a mess it would be if we could all just follow the laws of where we live and ignore the ones where we're currently located.

PS. If you want to know how much support the windshield provides in a rollover, check out the video in this thread: Jeep Rollover Video!! must watch!!
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Like Irongrave said. I had to remove those pieces because the windshield was down and couldn't support them.
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Don't forget the cost of new torx bolts when you strip those ones out.

I've given up on removing any of the torx on my jeep that have factory paint on them, every time I try I come about 1 attempt away from stripping them out completely.
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The torx you need to remove to drop the windshield don't have paint on them.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:47 PM   #29
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holy_crap hahaha. I am preparing for the summer. Irongrave I think I might take the windshield out myself and get the front road cage parts. I am also going to ask the blues around here about the laws ed98208 and Atthehop. That video was crazy but I don't think ill be going off road anytime soon. What a bummer to spend so much money on the BOX to smash it all up. Why new torx bolts, cant we just use the ones we take out?
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this was before I drove the pins out of the hinges. But 6*F no top doors and the frame folded. Can see a lot more of the trail. I don't like it just folded because still run the risk of destroying the frame with a good tree or rock hit.


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