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Old 03-19-2011, 11:21 AM   #1
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IH Scout vs TJ ???

I have begun to get an itch to sell my 02 TJ se and buy an International Scout.
Why? Well, I think they have a certain panache that comes from an older discontinued automobile...I guess....and they meet my criteria for going topless and for removing the rear seat. They appear to be pretty simple.

I am not an off-roader but I like having the 'just in case' option that a 4wd provides. I take my topless TJ practically every decent day and me and my dog Cooper take 10 -20 minute rides in my community and then pull her back into the garage. I've had my current TJ for 9 months and have only put 1,500 miles on her.

So...given that...tell me reasons that a Scout might be a bad idea. I am hoping that some of you have either owned one or have experience with one. Unfortunately, I don't have room for both...

Also, if anyone knows if a IH forum similar to this one exists then I would appreciate knowing about it. (Although I doubt that ANY forum could be as friendly and helpful as this one is.)


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Old 03-19-2011, 11:25 AM   #2
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Body Rust. Scouts are famous for it. But, I think they are cool as hell. Just like the early Bronco's. Good luck with your search.

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Old 03-19-2011, 12:09 PM   #3
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Every time I've wheeled with Scouts, I always dug them and how cheap/easy they were to maintain and make really trail worthy. One old Scout guy that was on the trail with me one day asked me how much I had into my rear axle. He then kinda laughed and said I had more $$$ into my rear axle than he had in his entire Scout.
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:26 PM   #4

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if your out west and can get a clean scout go for it! iv'e seen some really cool look'n lifted,bigger tired, scouts. milage might not be as good.who cares,as long as your having a blast!
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:34 PM   #5
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My dad had two scouts until just recently. They are some pretty sweet rides..I am not gonna lie. If you can get a well maintained one I would jump on it.
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I used to live near Ft. Wayne IN, where the IH plant was located. A lot of those workers ended up working w/ my old man, and a very common joke was that you could hear them rusting as they went down the assembly line.

that being said, they are cool as hell and if you can find one out west in good shape, then good on you. I'm a bit surprised no one has come out with a fiberglass tub for these yet, but I guess there are so few left it probably wouldn't be worth it. Personally I'd rather have an early bronco just for parts availability, but that's just me.

when it comes to cars, I totally get wanting "something different." I don't think I've owned a vehicle for longer than 2 years yet, and about every time it's been a "niche" vehicle. Altho I have to think I've found my home in a Jeep.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:54 PM   #7
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I loved my old Scount II but as other have mentioned here, it was a constant battle with rust. Dang thing was a tank though as I had the 345 V8. I ended up getting rid of it as I was young and not very wealthy at the time so it was my DD. Parts were to hard to find close to where I live and could not have a job wait while my mail order parts came in. Sure would love to have my same Scout back but the family I sold it to 20+ years ago still has it and loves it. They have a few Scouts, if that tells you something.
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:18 PM   #8
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Look up Cornbinder.com they are an IH forum. I had a 1966 travelall for years, great rigs, very tough. Very hard to get parts for. I think it cost around $2200 to rebuild the engine twelve years ago.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:43 PM   #9
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Great responses, as usual....thanks guys!
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:10 PM   #10
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I owned a Scout II, so I'm going to go ahead and risk offending Scout guys. It was by far the worst vehicle I've ever had. Rusty, heavy, slow, unreliable, hard to find parts for, etc... The only thing worse than driving it on the road was driving it off road. I realize mine may have been more of a turd than some others, but I've seen lots of them off road and have never been remotely impressed with their capabilities (at the time I was in a club with a bunch of other Scout guys). They're way too bulky and heavy for anything beyond a smooth dirt road. The only one I know of that can wheel worth a darn has been so hacked up and modified that it's only a Scout by name.... But maybe I'm just bitter because I hated mine so much. Selling it and buing an XJ was one of the best decisions I've made in years.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:14 PM   #11
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Theres a big IH salvage yard up in Iowa. I past it a few months back when I was up there picking up some jeeps.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:49 PM   #12
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I have to say that I have had an 1980 IH Scout II w/345 4bbl, pst, tilt, cruise, and ac. I LOVE that truck! She does have rust issues since IH didn't prime the inner panels at the factory. They do make a fiberglass tub and/or panels to remedy that issue now. There are roughly 3 parts suppliers in the country and parts are expensive. I have dumped a fair amount of money into her over the past 15 years, but she still purrs running down the road, will drag anything I hook her to, and ALWAYS gets looks, smiles, and thumbs up everywhere she goes. She's no beauty queen and compared to my '99 TJ, but I love them both and can have an equally great time in either. On a side note, my wife will drive the TJ but not the Scout. For those interested, there are forums and parts suppliers out there. A google search for binders and superscoutspecialists.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:23 PM   #13
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I have a mid 70s scout and I'll tell ya they are way more money to keep up and buy parts for. Other than that they are cool and a work horse.
I already asked your wife and she said it was OK!
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:56 AM   #14
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Great Vehicles a lot of fun, can be hard sometimes figuring out what parts they used on the day they built yours sometimes!! Just the rust issues but there are options to help with that these days.
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I don't know about where you guys live but even if you found a Scout in good shape out here it's almost impossible to find any usable parts for them.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:46 AM   #17
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Thanks again, guys. Unless I can find one where the PO has already addressed rust issues then I suspect it will be a bit more than I can bite off at the present. When I told my wife about it she rolled her eyes and suggested that I wait to do that until I sell the 911, the TJ and the house I am trying to update and flip...in addition to running my business.

She does have a point....I guess.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:21 AM   #18

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I use to have a 1971 IH Scout 800B. They certainly are a tough truck. Jeep owners were always trying to buy it from me. Back then they were modifying the Scout axles and installing them in CJ's and Wranglers.

Back then, most of my repair parts had to come from salvage yards. There were a few aftermarket parts available but, mostly for ScoutII's.

A company in Ohio bought the scout mill rights and were ramping up to manufacture new parts. Unfortunately, the judge said to sell the Scout and split the money with the EX.

You should read the history of the scout. It is pretty interesting.
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Google IH Scout Forums. Pirate4x4 IH forum, Binder Bulletin, IHOnlyNorth and for parts, there are tons of places to buy. Super Scout Specialties is a good one.

I used to own a '78 scout II with a 345, 44s f/r sprung over with reverse shackle and 4spd on 35s. I loved that truck. Good luck with your decision.


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Friend of mine in Nevada has one with a factory diesel. Pretty cool

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