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Old 05-21-2012, 09:22 AM   #1
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I'm considering this Jeep, what are your thoughts? Thanks!!

Hey folks,

I really appreciated the generous reponses I recieved the other time I did this, so I want to offer another Jeep up for you to comment on if you have time.

I'm NOT doing this everytime lol, believe me that I'm looking at a dozen Jeeps and filtering them down before I even consider making a thread! The last thing I want is a bad reputation on here!

It's a 2003 Wrangler, Sahara edition, 55,000 miles, 4.0L I6, auto trans., air conditioning, hard top and full doors, clean Carfax, and navigation(?). Dealer is asking $14,500 online, so I'm guessing more like $16,500 on the lot.

To my eyes this one is in much better condition than the other one, but also costs more. Should still be within my budget though. Since I'm a noob to Wranglers, I'm going to be more comfortable with one like this that is closer to stock, since when it comes to aftermarket mods, I don't really know what's good and what's bad.

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Old 05-21-2012, 09:51 AM   #2
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I would really really really look at Craig's list and Wrangler and Jeep forum classifieds before checking out dealers.
You will get a much better deal.

That is a nice Jeep, but not knowing what area of the country you live in, I'd say it's a little over-priced.

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Old 05-21-2012, 10:28 AM   #3
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It looks clean but I will reserve my judgment until you post up some clear pictures of the frame. I have seen many Jeeps that look good like that one but the frame is rotted away bigtime....
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:32 PM   #4
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It's - it's - GREEN. Take off $5000 RIGHT NOW! LOL, Green is not my favorite color. Low miles are what's pricing it. NADA says that one in my area is in the mid 15's, Low miles adds $2500 bucks to it. I bought an '01 with 53k 2 years ago for 12k, so price isn't TOO high, but you have some wiggle room. Price with 120K=13K. You could wiggle down to 14 easy, but I doubt they'd go too much lower.

And... it's GREEN. Think, man!
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:35 PM   #5
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Underbody pics from dealer:






Also had them send me their inspection results, of which they replaced front sway bar bushings and did an oil change.

Looks good to my eyes, but appreciate thoughts from more experienced folks. I'm not going to be able to see this one in person until Saturday, and since I like it, I'm sure it will sell before then haha.

Just read the green post It actually reminds me of my green 1994 Ford t-bird, so maybe that's why I'm drawn to it lol.

I'm trying to condense from (2) vehicles to (1) in this one move, so that's why I'm leaning towards a dealership/stealership, otherwise I'd be all over CL. Good suggestion though, thanks!
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A look in person is worth a thousand pictures. Did you notice they spray painted the side of the skid before the picture? Look in person as pics help, but they do not show everything.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:18 PM   #7
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They definitely spray painted alot of the underside. That's either to protect a rust-restoration job, or to disguise rust without taking care of it. If you plan on bumping up the suspension/tire size in the future, without doing an axle swap, take note of that D35 rear end. They do not have a great reputation for holding up under pressure.

Otherwise it looks pretty clean for a daily driver situation. As others have noted, it IS a little on the expensive side, but you do end up paying more from a dealer (and for something as clean as that looks).
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:28 PM   #8
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i would really really really look at craig's list and wrangler and jeep forum classifieds before checking out dealers.
You will get a much better deal.
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I doesn't look to be abused, but personally in that price range, I would be looking for a Rubicon from a private party. But it's your money.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:23 PM   #10
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I would just be wary of the 2003 in general. I bought one in 03 and it has just been a friday afternoon special all the way - so much though that I sold it two weeks ago and am buying a 98 in a few days. That 03 fought me every single step of the way. I have talked with '03 owners, and it causes some people (not all, calm down) some real problems with what fits, what doesn't, and even what bolts hold what together. I may have just had a real gem, but I think the golden TJ's are still the '98-'02...just watch out for leaky headers.

Scour Craigslist and eBay classifieds also - and I am sure people know other sites. Heck, even auto trader had a few private sellers.
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Im my area $14500 with that kind of miles and only surface rust (which that looks to be for the most part) would be a really good price and a buy. Green is my favorite color.

I bought one a year newer than that (04 and exact same color Sahara) but with more miles (75K) that had brand new tires, maybe has a tad less surface rust than that but with its original good condition soft top and half doors for a little over a grand less than that. And that's the going rate around here. They bring big here. Its the price you pay going into the Summer for a clean newer model around here. They are selling like hot cakes!
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:02 PM   #12
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Yea they seem to really hold their value here in Indiana, which is a good and bad thing I suppose. And there are so many available with 120k+ miles (expected given the years I'm looking at), which I don't want, it forces the prices up on these lower mileage ones.

I'm also limiting myself to TJ's, 4.0L engine, not a lot of modifications, and models with air conditioning which is narrowing my choices.

Sigh ... trying to enjoy the buying experience.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:37 PM   #13
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Other than having a lot of rust underneath and being approx. $1500-$2500 over-priced for around here, I like what I'm seeing in the pictures. I think it's worth a visit to see it.

If you're wanting to take it trail ridding in the trees, that green is going to really show-off your new pinstriping.

I wouldn't put much in others cracks about how much cheaper Jeeps are arond their area. Every area has a rare sell; however, most cheap Jeeps are cheap for good reason(s). I bought a 2001 Sahara last year for $13,500 and I don't regret paying that much for 50'000 miles and the near perfect condition. I still grin BIG when others are floored by how "clean" it is.

We did buy it off Craigslist, but don't put too much faith in the honesty of a private seller over a dealer. I've been screwed over on a few Craigslist purchases, and the more being asked, the more likely you're going to be fed more lies.

Don't give up; we LOVE our Jeeps. yup...we have two and seeking a third. Buying a Jeep is more difficult than buying a boat or motorcycle. But we can't stop wanting to add another one.

Keep your head up, THAT you won't regret!
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Other than having a lot of rust underneath and being approx. $1500-$2500 over-priced for around here, I like what I'm seeing in the pictures. I think it's worth a visit to see it.

If you're wanting to take it trail ridding in the trees, that green is going to really show-off your new pinstriping.

I wouldn't put much in others cracks about how much cheaper Jeeps are arond their area. Every area has a rare sell; however, most cheap Jeeps are cheap for good reason(s). I bought a 2001 Sahara last year for $13,500 and I don't regret paying that much for 50'000 miles and the near perfect condition. I still grin BIG when others are floored by how "clean" it is.

We did buy it off Craigslist, but don't put too much faith in the honesty of a private seller over a dealer. I've been screwed over on a few Craigslist purchases, and the more being asked, the more likely you're going to be fed more lies.

Don't give up; we LOVE our Jeeps. yup...we have two and seeking a third. Buying a Jeep is more difficult than buying a boat or motorcycle. But we can't stop wanting to add another one.

Keep your head up, THAT you won't regret!
Well said... all I can add is... once you buy, dig in and make it better and never look back.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:58 PM   #15
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I would stay away from any wrangler with a possible rust issue. Southern Arizona and Southern Nevada are two states that I would research for some possibilities of Jeeps with quality bodies without rust.
Mechanical item's can all be fixed, but rusty bodies even with a experienced body man is a real risk! Once they start replacing panels and using bondo, they will never be the same as original!
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If you plan to add mods to it, lift, bigger tires.. Know that it has the weak dana 35 rear axle.(as noted by the round plastic fill plug on the rear axle, dana 44 has a square metal one and is a better pick) heck even if only plan to run on trails as it is, you can still bust that axle. If however its for just on road driving that might be okay. Price is high as stated check out private sales.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #17
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You should be able to get a rubicon for that kind if money.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:36 PM   #18
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For me it will be 100% on road, but I'm probably not the first person to say that and then end up going off road.

Will do some searching on axles to have a better idea of what is available, good tip!

For me, the reasons am choosing wrangler are for 4wd in the winter, top of in the summer, and a vehicle with lots of aftermarket options and customization.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:49 AM   #19
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Bought it yesterday, so I'm now officially a part of the group
Dealer came down some, and came up on my trades, so I walked away feeling great about it.
I will start new threads with questions I may have and some new pics, thanks all!!
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:55 AM   #21
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First mod? Bye bye milk jugs
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:04 AM   #22
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Second mod? Get rid of the horrible mud flaps/extended flares.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:11 AM   #23
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:17 PM   #24
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Looks legit dude. Gj for being able to negotiate with the dealer like that. you def got a good deal.

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