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Old 02-14-2011, 11:15 AM   #1
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In all honesty, which is an ideal lift height?

hey guys, I've really been going back and forth on either installing a 2 inch budget boost or a 4 inch kit. Is there REALLY any advantages/disadvantages to each? I dont see myself going rock climbing or anything like that. Mainly just some weekend mudding. I've been checkin' out all the pics on this site and the 4inch lifts give these vehicles an awesome look.

My problem is, for the 2 inch budget boost, price doesnt vary too awfully much. I've checked out the 4inch lifts and ...HOLY COW.. it seems to start around 500ish dollars and shoot up from there. Which either lift I go with, I dont need to go with the best on the market.
I've been looking at the skyjacker 4 inch economy lift. From what I've heard in the past, skyjacker is a pretty reputible company. Does anyone know if this lift is a decent lift, for my offroading needs?

Another couple of questions I have is: Is the 4 inch installation that much more difficult than a 2 inch? I'm doing this myself and it will be my first lift kit I've installed.

Also, this is a pretty dumb question but I know an alignment is a must after installation. Do lift kits affect the alignment of the rear wheels also, or is it just a front end thing?

If you were in my shoes, would you go with the 2 or 4 inch?

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Unless you want to get into a LOT of additional work (pitman arm, shifting linkage, brake lines, slip yoke eliminator, driveshaft change, etc. etc.....don't go for the 4". If you were thinking of a 2" to begin with...which is nothing more than poly 'cups' that boost up the springs, then go with a 3" kit...which is below the magic 4" level-at 4" lift everything else needs changing.
Don't go with an 'economy lift'...double check the list of parts against another same height lift...things like brake line extensions, etc.-if one kit HAS them and another kit doesn't...it means you ARE GOING TO NEED THEM and will have to buy them anyways.
A 3" lift will give you the opportunity to put on some larger tires, have some more fun offroading (don't forget to get skid plates!) and you'll be happy with the 'look'.

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so a 3inch at most will only require a tcase drop? Could you point me towards a good/somewhat affordable 3 inch kit. Ideally I'd like to get some 33's without doing a 2 inch plus the 1 inch body lift.

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Old 02-14-2011, 11:47 AM   #5
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hmmm. That zone offroad lift seems to be a pretty good buy. I was just looking at reviews of it, and the majority of them seem to be positive. Would you recommend upgrading to the gas shocks on that lift?
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zone 3" kit with Hydro shocks would be a good option for you unless you plan on cycilng your suspension a lot. For what you mention about the type of wheeling you will be doing, it doesn't seem like you would need the Nitro shocks. If you are not opposed to a slightly stiffer ride I would go with them though. Sending you a PM with pricing.. Reply with a zip code for shipping costs and the year of your rig.

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BDS or Rusty's should work fine for ya.

And a t-case drop? Come on, you just spent money to LIFT your vehicle so you can LOWER your t-case? Nuts. A proper SYE and rear shaft will not break the bank, so do it right. And that way when you pop a u-joint, you can drop your rear shaft and still drive home in front wheel drive.

Also, you may find that you still need control arms or an SYE at 2-3", depending on the geometry of your Jeep and your tolerance for vibrations.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:12 PM   #8
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If I did it all over again I would be on either a budget boost lift or another short lift, with a 1" body lift and all the high clearance armor goodies. Tummy tuck, hi clearance gas tank skid, tube fenders... And still run 33"s! Just my opinion. If you want to stay cheap and basic get a 3" from BDS, Zone, Currie, Rancho, Rustys...
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My ideal lift is 3" and i'll be goin with the zone lift if i hit bonus at the end of the quarter...
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:15 PM   #10
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I vote with zone. That's who I'm going with. Going to keep the gas shocks as mine is a DD. No use to upgrade at this point.
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I went with the Rough Country 3.25 inch lift. It had Shocks/coils/Spacers and all the needed hardware-brackets. I was very happy with the install (i did it) and the performance/ride since. Might be worth looking into as well. here is a pic of mine after with the Dick Cepek 33's

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I have a 2 1/2 inch RC lift and like it alot . Easy to get in and out of and simple to do .
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I went with the Zone 3". It seems like the perfect lift for 33's.

My Jeep is a '99 so I went with the suspension lift because I feel like I needed to replace the shocks and springs at this point anyway.
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I have a 2 1/2 inch RC lift and like it alot . Easy to get in and out of and simple to do .
those 31s?
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I think a 2 inch along with a 1.25 inch body lift is great. I did put in a 3/4 spacer in front to level the Jeep which gives 4 inch up front and 3.25 in the rear. With proper bump stops you can run 33's nicely and have no rubbing issues when disconnected. Do the MML too so you don't have to drop the t.c. and you will have a nice driving Jeep and no need for other drive line mods.
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those 31s?
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There is no ideal lift height in general. Each rig has its own ideal lift that depends on what you want your Jeep to look like and more importantly, how you wheel it. An 8" long arm would be silly on sand dunes and a stocker would be bad news rock climbing. I guess an 'average' would be 4" and that can be any combination of suspension and body lift to achieve it.
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so a 3inch at most will only require a tcase drop? Could you point me towards a good/somewhat affordable 3 inch kit. Ideally I'd like to get some 33's without doing a 2 inch plus the 1 inch body lift.

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And a t-case drop? Come on, you just spent money to LIFT your vehicle so you can LOWER your t-case? Nuts. A proper SYE and rear shaft will not break the bank, so do it right. And that way when you pop a u-joint, you can drop your rear shaft and still drive home in front wheel drive.
Also, you may find that you still need control arms or an SYE at 2-3", depending on the geometry of your Jeep and your tolerance for vibrations.
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If I did it all over again I would be on either a budget boost lift or another short lift, with a 1" body lift and all the high clearance armor goodies. Tummy tuck, hi clearance gas tank skid, tube fenders... And still run 33"s!

Good advice. In my mind to run 33s on a TJ you have two options . . . you can do it on the cheap and put a BB and 1.25 BL and bumpstop it correctly maybe trim the flares a bit and wheel the hell out of it. If you don't want to go that route then plan on really breaking out the wallet as to do it correctly you really need to replace pretty much the entire suspension, control arms, drive shaft, SYE, track bars, etc. For 33's if you are going to do it right, go with a 4 inch kit vs. a 3 inch. Do it right do it once. The stock belly is low enough . . . raise it up if you can . . . but don't drop it down even lower.
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Couple of things here. First off you can pop your rear driveshaft off and tool around in 4wd whether you have a SYE or not. 2nd you don't need 4 inches to fit 33's this pic is on 3 inches of lift. 3rd, the reason we lift Jeeps is to fit bigger tires which in turn gets our pumpkins higher off the ground and further away from the rocks. In some cases you need higher lifts for big rocks but that is far away from what most of us do. Like in this case. Those are 38's on I don't know how much lift. Sometimes higher is better.
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I have a 3" lift with 33's and that is just right for me. I didn't have to do any of the extra things involved with the 4" lift and it still has plenty of room around the wheels. I don't off road a whole lot but when I do I can do things and go places most can't. I have small kids and they can still climb in...plus it fits nicely in my garage.

I can't really see the need to go any higher for what I use it for. I installed the Zone 3" kit and it should last a long time.
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hey guys, I've really been going back and forth on either installing a 2 inch budget boost or a 4 inch kit. Is there REALLY any advantages/disadvantages to each? I dont see myself going rock climbing or anything like that. Mainly just some weekend mudding. I've been checkin' out all the pics on this site and the 4inch lifts give these vehicles an awesome look.

My problem is, for the 2 inch budget boost, price doesnt vary too awfully much. I've checked out the 4inch lifts and ...HOLY COW.. it seems to start around 500ish dollars and shoot up from there. Which either lift I go with, I dont need to go with the best on the market.
I've been looking at the skyjacker 4 inch economy lift. From what I've heard in the past, skyjacker is a pretty reputible company. Does anyone know if this lift is a decent lift, for my offroading needs?

Another couple of questions I have is: Is the 4 inch installation that much more difficult than a 2 inch? I'm doing this myself and it will be my first lift kit I've installed.

Also, this is a pretty dumb question but I know an alignment is a must after installation. Do lift kits affect the alignment of the rear wheels also, or is it just a front end thing?

If you were in my shoes, would you go with the 2 or 4 inch?
In all honesty, the ideal lift height depends on what YOU will do with your rig, what terrain YOU will be wheeling, and most importantly, how much uptravel and downtravel YOU want.

My advice is do more homework. Read, search, read some more, search again, then repeat a few more times. Learn about your suspension and what you want it to do.

Also, do not fall into the cheap & attractive low cost route. Do your homework on brands and what the smart folks run. People that actually use their Jeeps....with bumpstop extensions . Work up a parts list, I can pretty much guarantee no lift kit includes everything you need. Plan on getting a SYE/CV shaft.

If you want brands to look at, I'd suggest RCD (Race Car Dynamics), OME (Old Man Emu), Rokmen, Currie and Clayton Off-Road.
www.claytonoffroad.com
www.currieenterprises.com
www.rokmen.com
www.dpgoffroad.com

Whatever lift you choose, make sure to set the bumpstops properly, and check brake line length:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/corr...gth-70047.html

I went with OME...you might find reading this parts list useful:
Unlimited04's LJ Build - JeepForum.com

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Didn't read all the above posts, but I think you first need to determine how you are going to use your Jeep. If it is a mall cruiser and you just like the look of a lifted Jeep then maybe a 1-2" BB will do. If you are planning on serious wheeling, then you will likely want at least 33-35" tires and that will require at least 4" of lift or more. Good luck.
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I'm runnin' a 2.5 RC lift.. I'm very happy with it.
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to me the ideal lift height is setting the frame at like 20-24 inches off the ground and building from there
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Just remember if it isn't mentioned when purchasing your lift or spacer bushings. Most likely you will also need new shocks and if you go more than 3" I recommend a SYE and CV drive shaft. Many times this is not mentioned and folks think the lift is actually cheaper than it is. In the long run it isn't so much a budget boost or lift. It is just incomplete. Once done right, it costs.
I recommend stay away from Pro Crap or anything comparable. Rough ride, unless that's what you're into.

After riding in a Jeep with a nice riding lift, you might feel different about some of the cheaper lifts. Do your homework and good luck.

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