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Old 02-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #31
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Let us know how the XRF's do for you. We're not getting more than about 10000 miles out of them on 35's.
Wompp wompp and I heard good things about em haha

What do you prefer? I was interested in the Synergy Suspension but they had a big price point, I guess in the long run now I'll be paying more if these do die within 10k miles

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Old 02-16-2012, 08:58 AM   #32
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Wompp wompp and I heard good things about em haha

What do you prefer? I was interested in the Synergy Suspension but they had a big price point, I guess in the long run now I'll be paying more if these do die within 10k miles
We heard good things too which is why we tried them after killing two sets of Moog on the same rig in less than 10,000 miles. The 3rd set is XRF and it's dead and needs to be swapped.

The same rig got 90,000 out of the OEM stuff. We went back to Spicer until we get a feel for how long the Synergy stuff is lasting.

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We heard good things too which is why we tried them after killing two sets of Moog on the same rig in less than 10,000 miles. The 3rd set is XRF and it's dead and needs to be swapped.

The same rig got 90,000 out of the OEM stuff. We went back to Spicer until we get a feel for how long the Synergy stuff is lasting.
I'll probably be in the same boat if these crap out early. I heard the MOOG is crap too

What's your opinion on inner C gussets
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:35 PM   #34
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I'll probably be in the same boat if these crap out early. I heard the MOOG is crap too

What's your opinion on inner C gussets
Inner C gussets are a waste of time on the TJ and XJ inner C. By the time they do you any good, you've already ruined the inner C by egging out the upper balljoint hole far enough to lose the press fit.
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Inner C gussets are a waste of time on the TJ and XJ inner C. By the time they do you any good, you've already ruined the inner C by egging out the upper balljoint hole far enough to lose the press fit.
God this thread is important! I love information that negates the purpose of some of those products out there.
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Ya this definitely saved me some time, effort and above all money
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God this thread is important! I love information that negates the purpose of some of those products out there.
That is one of the perks of wheeling in JV for so many years. If there is a way to break it, wear it out, tear it up or expose any weakness your rig has, it will be done out there if you play there long enough and sometimes, it's not even that long.

We have ruined at least 3 inner C's that I'm aware of in our group or extended group. All were done doing recoveries on rigs with broken parts in the front that require lots of winch work, tugging and towing to get them back to camp.

None of them had bent C's, just egged out holes for the upper balljoint which caused them to lose the press fit.

We've never ruined an inner C that I'm aware of that wasn't on a rig being recovered, so I don't see what good any bracing will do to prevent the most common failure.

Bear in mind we aren't hitting the trails with a lot of wheel spin, so different types of wheeling in other parts of the world may change what fails.
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I'll go ahead and bring this thread back from the dead with a question: Suppose you egged out hole for the lower balljoint which caused it to lose the press fit, due to the upper ball joint coming apart and the inner and outer shafts breaking while attempting a steep rocky climb, ripping the lower ball joint out of the C at an angle; I'm thinking the only fix for this is a new inner C (Or more likely ditch the LP30 for an HP30 and re-use my current locker). Unless there is some magic fix for this that I'm not imagining...

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