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Old 02-20-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
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installing a remote start

Purchased a viper remote start alarm system. How hard is it to install one of these? Keep getting quoted 250-400 to install. The most I ever done is installed a radio head unit. Am I out of my mind for even considering doing it myself?

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I would Imagine the remote start would be beneficial and fairly easy to install. Not sure if they can be independantly installed or not?

The alarm part makes no sense to me on a Jeep that is so easily broken into. The alarm will more than likely just make someone want to try to break into it just because it has an alarm. just my $.02

However if you are determined, I would ask around FT Lewis. I'm in the military as well, and therer is bound to be someone there that has prior experience with such installs that would be willing to help you out.

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If you have a manual trans then you will have to install it yourself, I know of no shops that will install one in a vehicle with a manual trans.
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If you have a manual trans then you will have to install it yourself, I know of no shops that will install one in a vehicle with a manual trans.
It's automatic
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if you can read and understand a wire diagram you can do it
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if you can read and understand a wire diagram you can do it
Any special tools needed?
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If doing yourself, check out www.the12volt.com or www.commandocaralarms.com for their wiring diagrams for you model and then decide whether or not you think your up to installing yourself. Read your Viper manual and whatever wiring or features you don't need, separate those wires and wiretie them together to eliminate the confusion.
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I bought a Viper 5704 (2-way) remote start for my 2k 4.0L auto TJ. I have the specific wire call out for the Jeep and the detailed instructions for the remote start and Im still confused. I have installed a lot of aftermarket stereos, amps, and other electronics but this is kind of overwhelming. I think half the wires are not used. I cant get passed the heavy 10 pin harness. Half of those wires go to whatever a flex relay is. I think they go to the optional smart start add on. The other thing is there is a starter input and output wire, do they want you to cut the factory starter feed wire. I dont think that is the case since the last remote start didnt require that.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:41 PM   #9
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Can't comment on the install process, but I can on the alarm & remote start as I have both. I really like it. 2 pushes from my front door and the jeep starts. Doors locks, and marker lights flash. When you go out to get in it if you don't put the key in the ignition and turn it on, it will die when you hit the brake to put it in drive (safety feature).
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Re: installing a remote start

I've got a viper remote start in the wife's Focus. Love it. It has great range. Awesome for those summer days when the temps are hovering around 100 or during those frigid winter months.

I purchased it online and had it installed locally for around 200. I could have done it myself, but after looking over the install instructions I decided to let a pro handle it.

I would not be surprised if half of the wires in the harness are not used. Our TJ's don't have overly complicated wiring and computer systems.
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I've. Installed rs for years if u have any questions pm me and I can walk u threw it nothing to crazy on the install as long as u have a black key looks a lot more complicated than it is. Best thing to do is prep it out side of the jeep
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Yeah it has a black key. It has to be a simple install on this Jeep. I have had a viper 5901 (basically the same system) on my wifes fusion for about 3 years now, and its great. I will scan in the wire call out sheets with my notes and maybe someone can chime in on the wires I'm not sure about. I should have all that info ready to post tomorrow. Thanks.
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I decided to type it out so it’s easier to follow. It took a while but hopefully it will make it easier to fill in the blanks for me. Please fill in the blanks on the remote start harness if you can. Thanks in advance.

First here is the wire call outs for the TJ. (Numbers to the left will be used as shorthand for the wire color in the remote start harness callout.)

2000 Jeep Wrangler

Ignition Harness
(1) PINK/BLACK & RED (+) 12 VOLTS
(2) YELLOW (+) STARTER
(3) BLUE (+) IGNITION
(4) BLACK/ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY
(5) BLACK/GREEN (+) SECOND ACCESSORY

Headlight Switch
(6) BLACK/YELLOW (+) PARKING LIGHTS

COIL PACK
(7) GREY TACHOMETER

BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH
(8) WHITE/TAN (+) BRAKE WIRE


Viper 5704

Main Harness, 6-pin connector
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( 1 ) H1/1 – RED (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT
( X ) H1/2 – BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND
( X ) H1/3 – BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT
( ) H1/4 – WHITE/BROWN PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE – PIN 97a of onboard relay
( 6 ) H1/5 – WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
( ) H1/6 – ORANGE (-) 500Ma GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT

Door Lock, 3-pin connector
(n/a) 1 – BLUE (-) 500Ma UNLOCK OUTPUT
(n/a) 2 – EMPTY NOT USED
(n/a) 3 – GREEN (-) 500Ma LOCK OUTPUT

Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, 24-pin connector
( ) H2/1 – PINK/WHITE (-) 200Ma IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
( X ) H2/2 – BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT
(n/a) H2/3 – BLUE/WHITE (-) 200Ma 2ND STATUS / REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/4 – GREEN/BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARMED OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/5 – RED/WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT
( ) H2/6 – GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O)
( X ) H2/7 – BLACK/YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/8 – BROWN/BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT
( ) H2/9 – DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT
( ) H2/10 – PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/11 – WHITE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT
( ) H2/12 – VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
(n/a) H2/13 – WHITE/VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/14 – VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/15 – ORANGE/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT
( 8 ) H2/16 – BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT
( X ) H2/17 – GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O)
( ) H2/18 – VIOLET/YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
(n/a) H2/19 – BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN / INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O)
(n/a) H2/20 – GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT
(n/a) H2/21 – WHITE/BLUE (-) REMOTE START / TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT
( ) H2/22 – ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
( 7 ) H2/23 – VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT
(n/a) H2/24 – GREEN/WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT

Remote start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector
( ) H3/1 – PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
( ) H3/2 – RED/WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
( ) H3/3 – ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
( ) H3/4 – VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
( ) H3/5 – GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
( ) H3/6 – RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
( ) H3/7 – PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT
( ) H3/8 – PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY
( ) H3/9 – RED/BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT
(n/a) H3/10 – NC No Connection
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Did you ever get this installed??
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No. No one bothered to reply and fill in the blanks. Its about that time to start thinking about installing it again. I am thinking about asking a friend to install it unless someone here can fill in the blanks. I'm willing to make it worth someones time if they know what they are doing and can fill in these blanks.

Sorry for the late reply. This site was blocked from me for at least a month and I couldnt get to this thread.
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I bought a Viper 5704 (2-way) remote start for my 2k 4.0L auto TJ. I have the specific wire call out for the Jeep and the detailed instructions for the remote start and I’m still confused. I have installed a lot of aftermarket stereos, amps, and other electronics but this is kind of overwhelming. I think half the wires are not used. I can’t get passed the heavy 10 pin harness. Half of those wires go to whatever a flex relay is. I think they go to the optional smart start add on. The other thing is there is a starter input and output wire, do they want you to cut the factory starter feed wire. I don’t think that is the case since the last remote start didn’t require that.
You do have to cut they starter wire. It's how it keeps it from being started if someone trips the alarm.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:03 PM   #17
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Remote starts on your era Jeep aren't to bad to install at all if you are ok with wiring. The sites BigCrave and the info twlightning gave should be ample to install one in an auto Jeep, especailly with no bypass needed. Always make sure to test the wires even if you see them in info like the chart above.

btw, A lot of shops up here will install in manual trans vehicles, but usually only modules that are specifically made for manual trans. Compustar has many for this for a while now, and DEI (Viper, Clifford etc) have been making them too now.
You can always look into additional stuff for a manual too like the Compustar FTDAS which detects movement and will kill it if started in gear.

I installed a Compustar 6200 brain in my 2004 last fall with a Blade bypass, FTDAS, and one-button remote as I don't have power locks etc, and it took a bit longer than an afternoon, but I took the time to test and solder the wires and route them neatly and the antenna is hidden etc...

If your decent with wires don't be afraid to give it a try
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Yeah it's way easy. Don't worry about the flex relays. You don't need them. I think I saved my cheat sheet. I'll look for it.
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That would be great if you found your cheat sheet. I going back over my chart and seeing what I can't fill in. I here you when you say you dont need any of that flex relay stuff, but are those wires just capped off. What is confusing to me is that there are multiple ignition wires and accesory wires. I dont get ignition 1 and ignition 2. Then in the jeep harness having accessory and second accessory? Which is which, and are they both used?
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That would be great if you found your cheat sheet. I going back over my chart and seeing what I can't fill in. I here you when you say you dont need any of that flex relay stuff, but are those wires just capped off. What is confusing to me is that there are multiple ignition wires and accesory wires. I dont get ignition 1 and ignition 2. Then in the jeep harness having accessory and second accessory? Which is which, and are they both used?
Yeah I just cut them. If you plan on using the alarm on a different vehicle is just tie them off. You don't need ignition 2. And the accessory wire you need is the middle size. There are 3 different sizes of the same colored wire. Pick the middle one. I found the cheat sheet. Give me a chance to print it out and (cleanly) rewrite it and I'll post it up.
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Great place for wiring help/car start/alarms/stereo etc

2000 Jeep Wrangler Alarm, Remote Starter, Keyless Entry Wiring Information
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Red-lined wires are not needed. The ones that say "optional" are, well, up to you if you want them. As for the tach wire: I had to use a DBALL to bypass the sentry feature and that supplies a tach signal, if you don't have that then you'll need to find a tach signal wire. Usually one of the wires for the fuel injectors. This is for a viper 5704 installed on a 2006 TJ. Also, the wires for the door triggers are on the big white harness under the dash. I'll get a pic if you need it. They used those colors of wires for a lot of things apparently.
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Do not connect the hood switch or neutral safety switch to ground! You are bypassing safety features that will keep you and others safe from an accidental mis-start! ie: Bypass your hood pin and lean in there sometime with your keys in your pocket and see what happens to your fingers/hands when it fires up if you hit the button by mistake! ouch...

For your auto there should be a neutral safety switch as they only are supposed to start in neutral or park!
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Do not connect the hood switch or neutral safety switch to ground! You are bypassing safety features that will keep you and others safe from an accidental mis-start! ie: Bypass your hood pin and lean in there sometime with your keys in your pocket and see what happens to your fingers/hands when it fires up if you hit the button by mistake! ouch... For your auto there should be a neutral safety switch as they only are supposed to start in neutral or park!
Not worried about it starting in gear because I have an auto. I don't turn it off "in gear" and get out of the vehicle. Kinda hard to take the keys out if it's not in park AND I have common sense, I'm not liable for someone who doesn't.

The hood pin wire is connected to the hood pin and upon grounding 1.) does not let the remote start activate, 2.) triggers the alarm. It grounds when the hood is open. You can reverse this in the alarms settings if you want a positive switched hood pin.

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AND there's a toggle switch to disable the remote start. For those times you don't do your own work and don't want to be liable for the actions of a dummy.
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It's easy to hook the neutral start wire up in an auto, and the auto Jeep has one, so why not do it right?
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It's easy to hook the neutral start wire up in an auto, and the auto Jeep has one, so why not do it right?
Even easier to just ground it. Don't worry, my jeep won't hurt you. Not will I ever post about my jeep starting in gear by itself.
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It's not the starting in gear I'd worry about with an auto, think about the example I gave above and how easy that would be to accomplish Yes I know thats the hood switch, but still could be dangerous none the less.
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It's not the starting in gear I'd worry about, think about the example I gave above and how easy that would be to accomplish
Not very easy since I take my keys out of my pocket when I'm working on it because I don't want to scratch the remote

And in case you missed it, the hood pin prevents the jeep from starting when it's open.
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k, how bout if you slid under it to change the oil and hit the button? Better example?
Any which way, it's not hard to hook up for a lil extra protection from 'accidents'

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