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Old 05-05-2012, 07:57 AM   #1
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Interesting concept - push button start tj

Anyone have this or seen this. Im thinking i can just splice some wires to some switches and BAM, tj drive that's push to start. Im looking for some factory wiring diagrams, I found some through searching but I would like some other information to confirm.
OK here's the plan, First im only going to parallel the buttons to the key switches to make sure it works before i create any irreversible damage, then im going to remove the ignition and wheel lock all together.
Im going to wire some maintained switches to mimic the "run" power and a momentary push button to start the engine. I am going to throw in a hidden kill switch.
Any who if any one has any information that could help me out with this would be appreciated.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:02 AM   #2
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Why, they use this on big buses because they do not have keys since you can disable the start process. If you do this then anyone can just start your jeep and drive it away.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:40 AM   #3
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You are removing the basic security.
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Security can be regained easily.. Get an alarm with an ignition kill. You will have to carry a key fob but hit unlock then your start button and go...

Do a good job hissing the alarm stuff and people sent going to be able to jumper it.
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Wait a second, i guess i didnt think this through. you mean to tell me if i wire out the ignition switch, then the engine will be able to be started by anyone?
thank you captain obvious, you once again saved the day.

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Old 05-05-2012, 09:52 AM   #6
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Security can be regained easily.. Get an alarm with an ignition kill. You will have to carry a key fob but hit unlock then your start button and go...

Do a good job hissing the alarm stuff and people sent going to be able to jumper it.
Then you might was well carry your key.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:03 AM   #7
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Wait a second, i guess i didnt think this through. you mean to tell me if i wire out the ignition switch, then the engine will be able to be started by anyone?
thank you captain obvious, you once again saved the day.

the next time you have a thought.....Let it go! R.W.
You posted on a public forum asking a question. they gave you their 2 cents as you asked for no need to be........ rude about it.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:09 AM   #8
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pretty much what we had in the military back in the early 70's. 2 1/2's, jeeps, gamma goats, and the 14T chapperal i drove all had a push button of sorts. basically it was like the old floor mounted dimmer switches(which they also had) just in a different location.
know any old military mechinacs? probably fix you right up
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #9
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iv installed one before in a tj , we ended up just putting a starter kill in line, using the hazzard switch as the starter kill turn off
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Then you might was well carry your key.
I assume he is doing it for the "unique" factor not leaving the keys at home.. Still have to carry house keys anyway.
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You posted on a public forum asking a question. they gave you their 2 cents as you asked for no need to be........ rude about it.
Youre right i apologize for being rude, i just get short some times when i think people are posting just to post. I appreciate everyones input. BTW, i ripped apart the column and found what i need, wire wise. Now i have to find a good place to purchase and mount the switches. Also, i intend to install a hidden kill switch which will act as my key. I do not intend to carry any keys with me (garage door opener).
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Wait a second, i guess i didnt think this through. you mean to tell me if i wire out the ignition switch, then the engine will be able to be started by anyone?
thank you captain obvious, you once again saved the day.

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... and my interest in this thread went from "hmm... neat idea" to I hope your Jeep gets stolen.
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:50 PM   #13
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... and my interest in this thread went from "hmm... neat idea" to I hope your Jeep gets stolen.
I found that while there is a lot of great material here, most of the people are just plain assholes with really no great personality or ideas. I guess i will have to stick to just reading.
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I found that while there is a lot of great material here, most of the people are just plain assholes with really no great personality or ideas. I guess i will have to stick to just reading.
Is there any factory security built into the key?? You might need to wire in a bypass module. I would only power the module with your kill.. I hope you have some good ideas for a location for the kill that isn't obvious when you jump in.. Maybe a small push button under the dash you can hit with your toe or something...

Or down by the seat belt latch so you can push it as you click it..
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #15
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pretty much what we had in the military back in the early 70's. 2 1/2's, jeeps, gamma goats, and the 14T chapperal i drove all had a push button of sorts. basically it was like the old floor mounted dimmer switches(which they also had) just in a different location.
know any old military mechinacs? probably fix you right up
The truck I learned to drive on was my dad's 49 Chevy pickup. It had a floor starter. Most thieves probably couldn't figure it out these days
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Also means no locking doors... Or tailgate... Gunna put a push button for these too? :P. Just playing. Cool idea tho. Just too much of a liability where I live to be plausible tho. They've been doing keys for 100 years now. It's worked so far. Kinda goes with the motto "if it ain't broke... Don't fix it"
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You are also talking about removing the physical locks that immobilize the steering wheel. That's another level of security.
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Kinda goes with the motto "if it ain't broke... Don't fix it"
or if it ain't broke, give me 5 minutes
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or if it ain't broke, give me 5 minutes
It's a jeep, it's already broken
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It's a jeep, it's already broken
And if not then it must be removable.
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Wait our doors lock? Holy cow...

And I think we as a forum should stop being a-holes and give answers if we have them, and as far as opinions. Well you know what they say... I applaud the OP for trying to do something fun. We don't really need to care if it's a good idea or not. Just help the guy out if you can. I believe the point about the locking steering wheel is gona be an issue unless you have a way to take care of that. Goodluck!
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:27 PM   #22
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I found that while there is a lot of great material here, most of the people are just plain assholes with really no great personality or ideas. I guess i will have to stick to just reading.
Funny you comment about people being "assholes", as you seem to be the big one in this thread so far? I will admit, there is a part of me that also hopes someone steals your jeep.

Heres my olive branch-
A few things to consider. If your key has a grey head on it, that means it has a transponder system that will need to be considered. If that is the case, I would be willing to describe what in my opinion would be the easiest way to bypass that.

Also, you speak of having a "kill switch". Why not make your secret switch be the button that starts the jeep? This would help in the sense that you arent going to have to be constantly worrying if the switch is in the proper position. It would essentially remove one step from your starting process.

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