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Old 04-17-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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Is a lift REALLY all inclusive?

I am getting a 4.25 inch combo lift from zone offroading. I was talking with my brother, who doesn't know much about cars, but he said if I get that, I will need to upgrade other things on my car. I'm not talking about tires or anything, but the actual mechanics of my car. Any thoughts?

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #2
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no lift is 100% complete. it's your job to educate yourself and find out how various components work, and what needs to be changed and why.

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:14 AM   #3
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Does it go by how high the lift is? What type of lift? I'm not good with cars your help is much appreciated
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Does it go by how high the lift is? What type of lift? I'm not good with cars your help is much appreciated
it goes by money usually. the cheaper, the less complete. the more expensive, the more complete.

the best bet is to read, learn, comprehend and repeat until you can make your own educated decision. build your own "lift kit" based on what you learn, and what components are needed, and why.
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Post us a link to the lift you are getting. That way others in here can tell you what all needs to be done. Good luck.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:26 AM   #6
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http://zoneoffroad.com/product?ki=451


That's my lift. I wanted something cheap around the 500 600 mark
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:39 AM   #7
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You can get by for a little while with that but to bring everything back to the correct geometries you should look at upgrading more parts. I'm considering the Zone 3in lift which is the same as that without the BL and MML which I already have in place. I also plan to upgrade my control arms and trackbars. Also stop calling your Jeep a car.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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May need to adjust your front track bar by drilling a hole in the axle mount or get an adjustable front track bar
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:00 AM   #9
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So if I did get this for my jeep, how much do you think I will spend doing other upgrades? And when would I need to get them done? Thanks!
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You may also get some vibrations bc the rear drive shaft will be at a pretty big angle. You can do a motor mount lift or the more expensive better in the long run option and get an aftermarket drive shaft.
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You may also get some vibrations bc the rear drive shaft will be at a pretty big angle. You can do a motor mount lift or the more expensive better in the long run option and get an aftermarket drive shaft.
You'll also need and sye for your tcase for that cv shaft he's referring to
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:45 AM   #12
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So if I did get this for my jeep, how much do you think I will spend doing other upgrades? And when would I need to get them done? Thanks!
Again, this depends how detailed you want to get, how well you want the Jeep to drive, and what you're willing to tolerate. Plenty of folks will say they're happy with X or Y setup, even if they're on stock control arms, have low caster, no bumpstops (shocks bottoming out, or major suspension interferences)....in actuality, their setup sucks and could be improved immensely. They'll say they don't have any problems, but the real story is they have never checked to see if they actually have problems. When you don't know the difference or how stuff works, ignorance is bliss. But when you drive a rig that's setup well, and you notice the nuances that make big differences, you'll understand just how bad the incomplete setup really is.

For example, when you lift the Jeep and put bigger tires on it....don't forget about brake & steering upgrades to stop the larger tires (~$200-900). Longer brake lines will likely be necessary. Adjustable control arms will allow you to set axle position (~$900), adjustable track bars will allow you to center the axles under the frame (~$200-400). All this stuff requires some fine tuning work & time to make it all fit together....full bump, full flex, full droop checks, setting axle position, caster, pinion angle, etc.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:53 AM   #13
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You may also get some vibrations bc the rear drive shaft will be at a pretty big angle. You can do a motor mount lift or the more expensive better in the long run option and get an aftermarket drive shaft.

You may want to look up the kit. The 4.25 kit is a 3in SL with a 1.25in BL and 1in MML.
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You may want to look up the kit. The 4.25 kit is a 3in SL with a 1.25in BL and 1in MML.
I know a guy with the same kit and still has vibes. All jeeps are different
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I know a guy with the same kit and still has vibes. All jeeps are different
This is statement overused. So were you there when he did the full install? ANy chance at all something wasn't done right? While yes there are small variances there is a better chance of installer error.
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The only thing extra I had to add to the Zone. 4.25" Combo was a $10 Pleather shift boot from Autozone because the lift makes the console tight for 2 & 4th gear.

So the kit is complete, but once installed you will start thinking about the next possible things. SYE for a Tummy Tuck? JJ Control Arms? Stronger Steering components? etc
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So the kit is complete, but once installed you will start thinking about the next possible things. SYE for a Tummy Tuck? JJ Control Arms? Stronger Steering components? etc

That's why I'm building my own lift. I have 3" bds springs, UCF tummy tuck. JJ upper rear control arms. I'm still stashing parts. It's a lot more expensive and takes longer but that way you get what you want, you know what your getting and the lift is built how you want it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:07 PM   #18
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Sounds like you should get something safer, like a 2-2.5 inch spring lift with new shocks, maybe a 1in body lift. That should allow you to run 33's without issue. Going with that setup you *should* be fine with the just the supplied kit and not changing anything else. Anything beyond that, you will probably end up having to throw more money at it to get everything to work right. Personally, I'd run the 2-2.5in w/ 1"BL and 33's and then upgrade to a complete 4.5 Long Arm kit (or put together your own) keeping the 33's when money permitted. You'll be able to sell your old kit no problem.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:47 PM   #19
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ur gona need a front track bar make sure its good one.150-200$ the alignment by a shop will run u about 150 to get it done tools and more things ull need, just do it right the first time and get a good kit and shocks, knowing a cheap kit from experience is to go big or regret it and have to spend more money to get it relplaced later on

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