is it really so: air intakes suck ? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 10-24-2010, 04:11 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 17
is it really so: air intakes suck ?

some have said after market air intake do nothing for you ?? I would rerally like to know from YOU guys and girls before i spend money on a lame part, Thanks and this form rules

hot750four is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:29 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Owen_TJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,738
I'll give you my personal experience with this...

I was in your same position and was fixed on thinking air intakes are always good. After i did a lot of reading on this forum, thats definitely not the case. The biggest problem is that you're going to be letting in a lot more crap into your motor vs the stock paper filter and intake, so for me the negatives outweigh the small number of positives.

Since i'm not a hardcore offroader, i decided to just try putting in a drop in KN filter and did this about 500 miles ago. I'm not going to say the filter gave me more power, but it gave me a bit smoother power (if that makes sense). There are certain hills which i no longer have to downshift for and I have a smoother takeoff from stops.

I'm not worried about letting in all the dirt and crap because i do mostly pavement with the occasional trail or dirt run...however when i do these runs i do put the stock filter back in to make sure i'm keeping out what i can.

I also paired a new muffler (not a catback exhaust or anything like that) because the more i'm taking in, the more it should let out.

Overall i'm glad i have it in and havent noticed any negatives with doing this. Just my opinion of course!

All going to be your preference though!

Owen_TJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:30 PM   #3
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Jp90Talon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 3,132
Duh! Wouldnt be doing their jobs right if they didnt suck in air!

But most people agree that you are better off spending your $ elsewhere.......
__________________
Jp90Talon is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:32 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Walkingstick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 1,736
Shorter the intake the better.
Those long aftermarket and stock intakes suck up HP.
Get a short intake with smaller air filters, preferably duel airfilter and your HP will be much better, and if you can pull in cooler air than your HP will be much better as well.
And opinions on filters are subjective.
I have a Spectre filter and it grabs more dirt than my old uni style paper filter but it's all preference.
I run a Spectre/w mesh netting(greatly helps and catches twice as much dirt).
__________________
Make Sure Everyone is Dead within hearing and sight range. Only then, you can say any area is cleared.
Walkingstick is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:34 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
BANGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 338
I would be more then happy to trade you an as new AEM Brute Force Cold Air Intake for your complete stock air box . It,s on a 2004 6 Cly
BANGER is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:52 PM   #6
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 30,852
Images: 2
32,874,934 in the various Jeep forums (ok, +/- a few posts either direction ) confirming how aftermarket intakes don't help Wrangler TJ engines peform any better and you want us to confirm once again they don't really help?
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 04:57 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
coolbreeze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Redding, Ca
Posts: 854
In the past, I've put K&N and aFe on Cummins. I got some extra turbo noise, but that's about it. Clean air is a good thing. Compare throttle bodies using stock and after market filters in dusty conditions.
__________________
2004 Black X 4.0, auto, 3.73's, soft top 31-10.5-15 Toyo A/T's on 8" Ultra 175's, 2" Teraflex BB.
coolbreeze is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-24-2010, 05:09 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
jgorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,829
I did some testing yesterday and lost 73 hp due to hot air temps. I will agree that intakes with filters under the hood are a total waste of money. I will say that other intakes that suck from the cowl, or even a snorkel, could have great benefits, especially if you wheel where its hot. I picked up the spectre intake, but i have not dyno tested it yet.
jgorm is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-25-2010, 06:39 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 17
Nice web site jerry hope to drive with you some day, if you come to colorado we will do china run see ya
hot750four is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-25-2010, 08:36 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
jasonwrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 892
Quote:
Originally Posted by hot750four View Post
some have said after market air intake do nothing for you ?? I would rerally like to know from YOU guys and girls before i spend money on a lame part, Thanks and this form rules
it sucks when its sucking hot air like putting it behind the radiator fan, which is what most people do.
its great if you route it down low sucking cold air.
jasonwrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-26-2010, 09:49 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
jgorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonwrangler View Post
it sucks when its sucking hot air like putting it behind the radiator fan, which is what most people do.
its great if you route it down low sucking cold air.
Only on a race car Stick it down low on a jeep and then bust out the check book to pay $$$$ when you hydrolock the engine on the first stream crossing.

jgorm is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mopar Tire Tread Floor Mats SUCK! Need Replacement tmoca JK General Discussion Forum 22 12-09-2011 02:25 PM
does the 2.5L really suck?? swomprat TJ General Discussion Forum 38 10-11-2010 05:59 PM
I suck at welding rkwfxd Builders Corner 22 02-12-2010 09:13 PM
so MANY intakes... CHSmiddi11 TJ General Discussion Forum 36 11-29-2007 11:36 PM
cold air intakes tjsooley TJ General Discussion Forum 21 05-11-2006 03:04 PM


» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:11 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC