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Old 01-13-2008, 11:34 AM   #1
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Is ther a downside to spacers?

I've got some nice stock wheels on my jeep and I'd like to keep them. The only way I can fit 33s under my jeep though is with more backspacing. Is there any downside to just getting the spacers as opposed to buying a whole new set of wheels with the correct backspacing? Also I keep getting told I need a 1" BL to go with my 2.5" SL in order for 33s to work. When you guys say that do you mean: A. they won't fit at all w/out it, B. They won't flex well without it., C. They're going to rub at full turn without it, or D. all of the above. The thing is I've heard that a body lift can screw alot of stuff up plus I'm not a big fan of seeing all that "stuff" hangin out the bottom.

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Old 01-13-2008, 12:00 PM   #2
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i think you should get the 1" BL. its cheap and easy. without it, you won't have a ton of room to flex. you can add bumpstop but i'd just add the 1" BL. no reason not to. it will rub fender clearance-wise. if you just get a 1" BL it doesn't screw up anything.

btw, you want less backspacing, not more

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Sorry, yeah I always get that backwards b/c I'm thinking "more" clearance so I say "more backspacing". Any advice about the spacers though?
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if you wanna keep your stock wheels then go for it.

many people run spacers with no problems. i have a buddy who ran spacers for a long time with no problems. just check them at every tire rotation.
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Old 01-13-2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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Thanks, can you recommend a brand of spacers/body lift or are they all pretty much the same?
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Old 01-13-2008, 12:40 PM   #6
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the only spacers i really hear anything about are the spidertrax.

as far as body lift goes, i recommend the performance accessories (PA) 1" BL. it comes complete with everything you need and its cheap. a lot of people will recommend the JKS BL but i don't recommend it unless you are doing a MML (motor mount lift) with it because they tell you to drill new holes in the fan shroud instead of just giving you drop brackets (drop brackets are far easier)
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as long as you dont go out to far you will be fine. i would do the minimal amount needed. get a quality spacer dont cheap out. if you go out to far you may get premature wear on the hub bearings.
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Two more questions. (1)Don I need to regear with 33's? and (2)Will the spare tire extension mount I saw on Quadratec work, or is a 33 to heavy?
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what gears do you have now? my auto with 3.73s and 33s is fine.

some people say those extensions work some say they dont. If you do run one, I would advise not to run it for long. if that tire bounces aroud on that tail gate, the metal will start to rip
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:38 PM   #10
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Get coil spacers instead of a bl. Bl will make some shops turn you away if you every need maintenance or repairs. Coil spacers are like $60 for a full set.
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if you go out to far you may get premature wear on the hub bearings.
actually spacers are no different than less backspaced rims so dont get that confused.

The only downside to spacers is they cost as much as a brand new set of steelies, maybe more. When tightening them just apply a bit of locktite on them to lower the chance of nuts getting loose and

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Get coil spacers instead of a bl. Bl will make some shops turn you away if you every need maintenance or repairs. Coil spacers are like $60 for a full set.
there is a very good chance that he will get all sorts of vibes with +3.5" of suspension lift.
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exatcly why i said that. sticking your tires out further via spacers or backspaced rim "MAY" cause premature wear on hub bearings. think about it, your putting more stress further out. im not saying hes gonna need hub bearings in a month or even 6 months. but keep an eye on them. everytime I have my front end in the air i always give my tires a shake.

After 2 years of wheeling with my 33s with rims with less backspacing i am now replacing my hub bearings.
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right right , when i was planning on running spacers too and was lurking around this forum looking for more info many said that hub bearing damage may occur and they made it seem like its different than less bsd rims, like it wouldn't happen with less bsd rims but will happen with spacers when in fact there is no difference so i just wanted to clarify it.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:46 PM   #15
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there is a very good chance that he will get all sorts of vibes with +3.5" of suspension lift.
I have a 4" actually like 4.5 cause of my old sagging springs with very small vibes when at a stop and in gear. Nothing anyone but me or my cousin would notice 3.5 is nothin. maybe he wont even need a t-case drop..
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when at stop and in gear? what?
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:23 PM   #17
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Anybody else want to chime in on coil spacers vs. a body lift?
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #18
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dont go over an 1" on the body lift or it will look like ass.

coil spring spacers work and work well, just make sure you grab some long shocks.

and 3.5" of lift your gonna get vibes, a simple small 1inch or less tcase drop will cure that.

as far as a vibe in gear at idle, that has nothing to do with lift. thats all engine or tranny.
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dont go over an 1" on the body lift or it will look like ass.

coil spring spacers work and work well, just make sure you grab some long shocks.

and 3.5" of lift your gonna get vibes, a simple small 1inch or less tcase drop will cure that.

as far as a vibe in gear at idle, that has nothing to do with lift. thats all engine or tranny.
maybe its that I can only feel it at idle, cause it started when I picked it up from the lift and tires shop
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i dunno man it could be a coinsidance. hey toby what color is your jeep??? is it a factory color? looks good

also this could be your vibe at idle hahaha "1000W amp and 2 12" subs"
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i dunno man it could be a coinsidance. hey toby what color is your jeep??? is it a factory color? looks good

also this could be your vibe at idle hahaha "1000W amp and 2 12" subs"
Ya, i cant use my mirrors when stopped because of those darn things Ya, its factory color: Gunshell blue or something
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perhaps because those 2 12" subs need power to rumble? at idle my jeep shakes when i turn the music up a lot and lower the voltage too much. As the rest, at idle i assume its the torque converter that is grabbing too much causing the vibrations but also its a 4 banger so... also did you do anything with the tranny at all such as a drop? That bends the engine mounts and lowers the dampening between the body and the engine.
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I personally did nothing, I wasn't experienced enough to install my lift. As far as I know they only did a t-case drop.
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Only downsides to spacers that *I* have experienced:

- Some tire shops won't install wheels, do an alignment, or rotate tires if spacers are on (they all still think they are just type shim type)
- You have twice as many lugs to undo when servicing the brakes.

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Old 01-14-2008, 08:06 AM   #25
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as far as coil spacers vs. body lift i would definitely go with a 1" BL. it looks fine and you won't have to worry about messing with your driveline angles (since you'd be at 2.5" of SL lift compared to 3.5" if you went with spacers).

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