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Old 03-19-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
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Is this a Dana 44?

I think ive got a Dana 44 on my TJ Sport. Its got a metal plug on it... Can anyone tell me if im a lucky mo fo and have a Dana 44?

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It looks like there is a build tag on the left hand side in the pic I would check that to be sure, it does look like a D44 though grats lol
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Yep
x2, tag on the left will tell you gears, but I'm almost positive if it's not a rubicon it's 3.73 in all d44 tj/lj
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My 05 tj sport also came with the d44 rear, but mines an automatic... the dealership can print out the factory spec sheet if you give them your VIN.
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My 05 tj sport also came with the d44 rear, but mines an automatic... the dealership can print out the factory spec sheet if you give them your VIN.
Cool thanks man. Does your 44 look like mine? Im pretty sure I dont have 4:10 gears but i just want to verify it is a dana 44 before I get too excited about it.

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Should I upgrade my front axle to a Dana 44? I may want to run 35s down the road and want to have a solid setup. Or will the dana 30 up front suffice?

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All non-Rubicon Dana 44 axles installed in Wrangler TJs came with 3.73 gearing. All Wrangler TJ Rubicon Dana 44 axles came geared with 4.10.

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Should I upgrade my front axle to a Dana 44? I may want to run 35s down the road and want to have a solid setup. Or will the dana 30 up front suffice?
The front Dana 30 is up to 35" tires for the majority of us. If you add a front locker, it is still mostly up to 35" tires but would be fully up to 35" tires with the locker for nearly any wheeling conditions by merely upgrading its axle shafts with aftermarket hardened alloy 27 axle shafts. That's what I did with my last TJ's front Dana 30, installed Warn's hardened 27 spline axle shafts, and it held up fine with my 35" tires and lockers to some of the toughest trails imaginable.

The Rubicon's front Dana 44 is really no stronger than the Dana 30 because the Rubicon's front Dana 44 is only a Dana 44 inside the pumpkin and inner axle shafts. The rest of the Rubicon's front Dana 44 is the same as the standard TJ Dana 30. Axle tubes, outer axle shaft stubs, u-joint, unit bearing, knuckles, ball joints, steering, brakes, etc. are all the same as the TJ's Dana 30.
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Old 03-19-2011, 06:23 PM   #10
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All non-Rubicon Dana 44 axles installed in Wrangler TJs came with 3.73 gearing. All Wrangler TJ Rubicon Dana 44 axles came geared with 4.10.

The front Dana 30 is up to 35" tires for the majority of us. If you add a front locker, it is still mostly up to 35" tires but would be fully up to 35" tires with the locker for nearly any wheeling conditions by merely upgrading its axle shafts with aftermarket hardened alloy 27 axle shafts. That's what I did with my last TJ's front Dana 30, installed Warn's hardened 27 spline axle shafts, and it held up fine with my 35" tires and lockers to some of the toughest trails imaginable.

The Rubicon's front Dana 44 is really no stronger than the Dana 30 because the Rubicon's front Dana 44 is only a Dana 44 inside the pumpkin and inner axle shafts. The rest of the Rubicon's front Dana 44 is the same as the standard TJ Dana 30. Axle tubes, outer axle shaft stubs, u-joint, unit bearing, knuckles, ball joints, steering, brakes, etc. are all the same as the TJ's Dana 30.
Awesome answer! Thanks man. What do you suggest for lockers. I dont have the first clue about what I want. I know that arb looks like too much of a pain with air hose leaks and such. What would be the advantage over cable lockers like ox or electric lockers? How much would it run me for some electric lockers?

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You won't hear about ARB Air Lockers being a "pain with air hose leaks and such" from anyone who actually has one. The ARB Air Locker has one of the very best reputations and it pretty darned bulletproof providing the installer was experienced at installing ARB Air Lockers and he installed it properly. Electric lockers have always had one form of problem or another, I know of no electric locker that I would feel comfortable recommending. I'm no fan of the cable Ox Locker as its cable is so inflexible and handles are a PITA to install, I'd personally choose an ARB any day over the Ox Locker.

For most people who don't need 4x4 during the winter to get around on icy or snow covered roads, a simple inexpensive lunchbox locker works extremely well. Aussie and Lockright lockers are very popular, they are fine on the street in 2wd, they only click a bit when you are making left or right turns. The No-Slip is another very good lunchbox locker but it's about $100 more which gives you a click-free operation on the street when in 2wd.
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Congrats on the D44 surprise! I was also glad when I found out. I bought my TJ thinking I had a D35 rear.

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All non-Rubicon Dana 44 axles installed in Wrangler TJs came with 3.73 gearing. All Wrangler TJ Rubicon Dana 44 axles came geared with 4.10.
This came from my build sheet, 97 5spd sport:

"DMDP 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio"
"DRK Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle"
"DSAP Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle"


I'll check my tag tomorrow to verify.
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Congrats on the D44 surprise! I was also glad when I found out. I bought my TJ thinking I had a D35 rear.



This came from my build sheet, 97 5spd sport:

"DMDP 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio"
"DRK Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle"
"DSAP Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle"


I'll check my tag tomorrow to verify.
Only the '97 came with 3.55 instead of 3.73. '98 and newer switched from 3.55 to 3.73.
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Only the '97 came with 3.55 instead of 3.73. '98 and newer switched from 3.55 to 3.73.
Dang! I was going to check tomorrow, 3:73's would have been another pleasant surprise for me.
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You won't hear about ARB Air Lockers being a "pain with air hose leaks and such" from anyone who actually has one. The ARB Air Locker has one of the very best reputations and it pretty darned bulletproof providing the installer was experienced at installing ARB Air Lockers and he installed it properly. Electric lockers have always had one form of problem or another, I know of no electric locker that I would feel comfortable recommending. I'm no fan of the cable Ox Locker as its cable is so inflexible and handles are a PITA to install, I'd personally choose an ARB any day over the Ox Locker.

For most people who don't need 4x4 during the winter to get around on icy or snow covered roads, a simple inexpensive lunchbox locker works extremely well. Aussie and Lockright lockers are very popular, they are fine on the street in 2wd, they only click a bit when you are making left or right turns. The No-Slip is another very good lunchbox locker but it's about $100 more which gives you a click-free operation on the street when in 2wd.
Thanks Jerry. Great info, as always. So what would be the advantages of an arb over a no-slip like this one?

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16104_109.htm

I use my jeep mostly on road and often in ice and snow, however I want to have a very capable off road machine for when i do take her off-road.

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x2 on the ARB's mine never let me down. The key is to make sure the shop or person installing them knows what they area doing. Hence ask how many they have installed before.
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Jerry said it. Christian Lee says the same thing: a d44 in the back and a d30 up front will run all day.
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So what would be the advantages of an arb over a no-slip like this one?
The ARB, like any full case locker including the Detroit Locker and Ox Locker, is significantly stronger than a lunchbox locker. A lunchbox locker is weaker than a full case locker because of its much smaller size because it has to fit inside the gear case. But for most people, a lunchbox locker up front is fine for up to the 35" tire size. My front lunchbox locker (a Powertrax No-Slip) held up very well to some very tough trails and 35" tires.

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