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Old 02-09-2013, 08:03 AM   #1
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jeep on a budjet?

Hey guys I was looking at already lifted jeeps and I'd rather buy stock and build it the way I want. I'm on a budget. Max I can afford to spend on a stock right now is 10-14k. Upgrades I'd say around 4-5k max for now. I want to have ok mileage, around 14-18, and a lift kit. It'll be my every day car, I don't work too far but my gf lives 25 miles away one way so gas will probably go fast. I'd like some suggestions because I'm looking at a 03 wrangler x stock. I want to re-gear it and put on a 4 inch lift, with 35's. What would the cost for all that be? and performance, mpg etc. also what parts will need to go to support the tires/ lift?

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Old 02-09-2013, 08:10 AM   #2
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Also I'd like to have Dana 44's do all jeeps made after 93 come with it? I'm a noob when it comes to jeeps sorry.

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The X model will have D30 front and D35 rear. In addition to the lift you will need to regear the front axle, install a D44/8.8 with gears that match the front (do not forget lockers), SYE with CV shaft, upgrade your steering, and upgrade your brakes. Expect to spend in excess of 5k prior to purchasing tires.
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Hey guys I was looking at already lifted jeeps and I'd rather buy stock and build it the way I want. I'm on a budget. Max I can afford to spend on a stock right now is 10-14k. Upgrades I'd say around 4-5k max for now. I want to have ok mileage, around 14-18, and a lift kit. It'll be my every day car, I don't work too far but my gf lives 25 miles away one way so gas will probably go fast. I'd like some suggestions because I'm looking at a 03 wrangler x stock. I want to re-gear it and put on a 4 inch lift, with 35's. What would the cost for all that be? and performance, mpg etc. also what parts will need to go to support the tires/ lift?
You would be better off doing like a 3 inch lift and 33's. from what I understand that is a lot less involved. I wouldn't go right to 35's. with 35's there's a good change you will never get above 14 for gas milage. I have 33's and if I drive extremely easy, I can push 14.5-15. That's extremely easy. Old lady style driving one would say. Gas does go pretty quick in jeeps. 50 miles is a quarter tank in my jeep. Buy the jeep as is, and drive it. You would be surprised how capable they are stock.
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33's on 4" SL here with 4.56's.... I have a heavy foot and don't do much freeway, though I tend to drive 70-75mph on them when I do. I'm lucky to get 12mpg. At freeway speed, Im around 2900rpms.. give or take.

I added a 1.25" BL to aid in a TT and now I'm looking at 35's... upgrading axles, carriers, gears, brakes, and steering... one piece at a time and storing them up until I have all I need.

If you do it all at once.... I would safely say over $6000 from the 'start' ( read stock ) for 35's BEFORE wheels and tires. This will GREATLY depend on the price of parts you buy.. but I'm giving you an average.

Super35 kit..... $1100-$1300
Upgrade front 30 ( locker and matched gear ) $1200-$1500 ( installed by shop out of rig )
Steering.... $200-$300
Brakes..... depends on which way you choose.... $500 +
lift.... man....$500-$1500... don't cheat yourself on low quality in this category. adjustable controls arms is a MUST when you choose.
SYE and CV.... $500 easy for quality

Then you have your wheels and tires...

Tires... plan on $1000- $1300 + ( look for discounts and rebates )

Wheels... you choose.... soft 8's are the cheapest $250 for the set of 5 or go for the $250 each on higher end of choice.

Just ballparks.... but you get the idea.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:22 AM   #6
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ill probably stick with stock and get a rubicon for now, thanks for the help
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ill probably stick with stock and get a rubicon for now, thanks for the help

Good choice...

You will save a lot of time and extra work ( and money ) going with a Rubi..... wish I did at the time....
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ill probably stick with stock and get a rubicon for now, thanks for the help

I don't understand the aversion many have here to buying a modded Jeep that's exactly or real close to what you want. When people spend a ton of money on a Jeep, they never get it back in value reselling. Near as I can tell, if you buy a $10k used Wrangler, dump $6k in parts into it, you end up with a $12kish vehicle.

Dump $50k in it, get a $20kish vehicle.

Take the time to pick something not beat, get it inspected by someone knowledgeable. If you have to spend and extra $1k fixing something done by the previous owner that's not how you want it, you're still way ahead.

All those saying buy a stock Jeep and build it, you must work for Quadratec!
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All those saying buy a stock Jeep and build it, you must work for Quadratec!
I can't speak for others, but for me, I don't want someone elses' screw ups, I like to work on my own stuff, I won't let anyone else work on my stuff, I like to build my stuff my way, building the Jeep up myself is half the fun, buying a stock Jeep that's never been wheeled is almost always going to have fewer worn components. I could go on. It's up to you, but I'll guarantee that in the vast majority, stock, non-modded, never wheeled used vehicles will be less headaches than the alternate.
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Stock Rubi would be my choice now, if I had to do it all over again. Good luck to you and your decision...Enjoy.
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I don't understand the aversion many have here to buying a modded Jeep that's exactly or real close to what you want. When people spend a ton of money on a Jeep, they never get it back in value reselling. Near as I can tell, if you buy a $10k used Wrangler, dump $6k in parts into it, you end up with a $12kish vehicle.

Dump $50k in it, get a $20kish vehicle.

Take the time to pick something not beat, get it inspected by someone knowledgeable. If you have to spend and extra $1k fixing something done by the previous owner that's not how you want it, you're still way ahead.

All those saying buy a stock Jeep and build it, you must work for Quadratec!
You have a valid point to a degree.... and that would depend on where you live as well. I know most lifted rigs out here see LOTS of trail time or just mall crawlers for looks.

Looking at most Jeeps out here... if they are lifted and USED for offroading.... it shows quite obviously.

I wouldn't buy a rig that has been USED offroad unless I personally knew the guy/gal selling. Well.... it depends..... I might if the price is right... and the components are all there and quality parts.


Buying a Rubicon up front will save you thousands in the long run.....costing a bit more up front.... but worth every penny.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:20 AM   #12
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I can't speak for others, but for me, I don't want someone elses' screw ups, I like to work on my own stuff, I won't let anyone else work on my stuff, I like to build my stuff my way, building the Jeep up myself is half the fun, buying a stock Jeep that's never been wheeled is almost always going to have fewer worn components. I could go on. It's up to you, but I'll guarantee that in the vast majority, stock, non-modded, never wheeled used vehicles will be less headaches than the alternate.
OP already decided to build his own, I may take this to a new thread. There's always those who really enjoy the build-up themselves and want to do every aspect. I respect that hope to develop that skillset someday after the desk job, kids' b-ball games, ect.

Here's an example of something I'd "look closer at" if in the market for a YJ

Jeep : Wrangler Base Sport Utility 2-Door in Jeep | eBay Motors

v8, Atlas, 44's, bumpers, winch, $12,500...dang.

BTW, I was in Lindrith NM 2 years ago doing some hunting. Nice out there, until about November, cold!

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