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Old 10-03-2012, 09:11 AM   #31
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My pride and joy TJ was stolen a little over two years ago and I didn't get it back. They never bothered hotwiring or trying to start it, they just dragged it backwards out of its parking space at work onto a flatbed tow truck. So installing a kill switch or disabling the ignition in some other way won't always help.

And to me, burglar alarms are no longer anything but annoyances that will eventually cause problems starting the Jeep if they are wired in to disable the starter if they go off. Not to mention that if you're not around to hear it go off, no one else will pay attention to it.

My best advice is to make sure your insurance will cover its loss if stolen and to never leave anything you value inside your TJ. My stolen TJ had a big locked aluminum tool box in the box that had some irreplaceable items in it that meant a lot to me.

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So what about the alarm systems that come with the new Jeeps. Do they stop thieves.

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wait, what was your address again? I'll be there about 4am to pick it up lol.

Seriously though, if your ever parked and you really don't want to chance it, and you havn't installed a kill switch yet, just take the coil wire off and put it in your pocket. Even if someone hotwires it they'll just crank and crank and crank and never fire any cylinders.
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My pride and joy TJ was stolen a little over two years ago and I didn't get it back. They never bothered hotwiring or trying to start it, they just dragged it backwards out of its parking space at work onto a flatbed tow truck. So installing a kill switch or disabling the ignition in some other way won't always help.

And to me, burglar alarms are no longer anything but annoyances that will eventually cause problems starting the Jeep if they are wired in to disable the starter if they go off. Not to mention that if you're not around to hear it go off, no one else will pay attention to it.

My best advice is to make sure your insurance will cover its loss if stolen and to never leave anything you value inside your TJ. My stolen TJ had a big locked aluminum tool box in the box that had some irreplaceable items in it that meant a lot to me.
Ya, I agree, knowing what you have that is not replaceable. You would be surprised how hard it is to replace clothes when they have been stolen. And Expensive.
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So what about the alarm systems that come with the new Jeeps. Do they stop thieves.
They can only prevent the Jeep from being started before they're stolen. The SKIM security system wouldn't have prevented my TJ from being stolen.
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Who makes the alarm?
It's a CODE ALARM but any good alarm has those options.(Viper)
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My PO installed alarm that kills ignition from starting, remote start, but also has vibration sensors. too sensitive but I can't complain. The remote goes off when the alarm is set off. The slightest vibration makes it chirp at you. I think its better than nothing and is a deterant but pro's know how to pass alarms.

I just always park were there's people in public and in the garage at home if the top is off. leave nothing that somebody would want to steal. I just have an umbrella, jumper cables, tire gauge, knife, and my insurance policy in my Jeep.

And the one who said you walked up and saw somebody gng through your jeep... aww man I can't imagine if I saw that.. Beast mode
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wait, what was your address again? I'll be there about 4am to pick it up lol.

Seriously though, if your ever parked and you really don't want to chance it, and you havn't installed a kill switch yet, just take the coil wire off and put it in your pocket. Even if someone hotwires it they'll just crank and crank and crank and never fire any cylinders.
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Actually, I am considering installing a GPS tracking unit in the Jeep, like I did with my wife's car. It comes in handy just in case she breaks down and I can just go online and know her exact location, especially with a 9mo and a 4yo running around with her. It will also help track the car in case of theft. It wasn't too pricey at $120 w/2 yr service included.
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Actually, I am considering installing a GPS tracking unit in the Jeep, like I did with my wife's car. It comes in handy just in case she breaks down and I can just go online and know her exact location, especially with a 9mo and a 4yo running around with her. It will also help track the car in case of theft. It wasn't too pricey at $120 w/2 yr service included.
So where did you get this from? Have a website? I'm curious.
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To help put your mind at ease, (except for some YJ owners!) I did a little research through NHTSA (National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration) and gathered the tallied NCIC reported thefts of Jeep Wranglers.

The agency is required by 49 U.S.C. 33104(b)(4) to periodically obtain and publish accurate and reliable theft data. The National Crime Information Center (NCIC) of the Federal Bureau of Investigation provides this data to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The NCIC is a governmental system that receives vehicle theft data from approximately 23,000 criminal justice agencies and other law enforcement authorities throughout the United States. This national data includes the reported thefts of self-insured and uninsured vehicles, not all of which are reported to other data sources.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is also the agency responsible for establishing the median theft rate for passenger motor vehicles (cars, multipurpose passenger vehicles and light trucks - 6,000 pounds or less gross vehicle weight rating). For MYs (model years) 1983 through 1989, the established median was 3.2712 thefts per 1,000 vehicles produced. For MY's 1990 through the present year, the established median has been 3.5826 thefts per 1,000 vehicles produced. The theft data show that those model year vehicles whose theft rates exceeded the established median have been stolen more often than those vehicles whose theft rates fell below the median for that calendar year.


Although they started compiling statistics of stolen motor vehicles beginning with MY 1983, the MPV category (multipurpose passenger vehicle/ light truck) for MY 1983-1989 are not listed because these vehicle types were outside the scope of the agency's theft prevention program as mandated by Congress at that time.

If I am reading their stats correctly, according to their search engine criteria, the list below represents the model year stolen within the calendar year it was produced…..not all wranglers stolen within that calendar year. (???) Also, there are no criteria on stock vs. mod stolen ratios, and not sure where they got there production totals from but they seem way off to me.

Be that the case, the poor YJ owners took a beating!!! And it appears that even the thieves don’t want the JK!!! (just kidding!)*
*Oops, two in a row! Sorry, just can’t help myself when it comes to friendly JK digs!

All in all, except for the YJ years, and slight bump up when the TJ came out (but really, can you blame them for wanting a TJ!) the wrangler has been well below the established median for thefts per vehicles produced!

Consider this - within a 20 mile radius of where I live there were approximately 1500+ cars stolen in 2010. Compare those odds to the total # of Jeep Wranglers taken in the entire country in 2010. (Even if the stats are just for the 10MY, that’s pretty dam good!)

So tuck in your YJ, TJ, or JK, give her (or him) a kiss goodnight, and rest knowing that more than likely it’s not on the bad guy’s most wanted list!


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Just a note on my previous post:

According to the NHTSA "finalized" 2009 report:
(finalized on 10/24/11 - gotta love the speed at which the feds work!)

The numbers were calculated as follows:

"The 2009 theft rate for each vehicle
line was calculated by dividing the
number of reported thefts of MY 2009
vehicles of that line stolen during
calendar year 2009 by the total number
of vehicles in that line manufactured for
MY 2009, as reported to the
Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA)."

All the stats I listed were taken from their searchable Vehicle Theft Database, which listed the 2010 model years. Evidently the 2010 stats have yet to be "officially finalized" into a paper report!
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Just looking at the picture of that White Jeep is just asking to be stolen. Things that can be stolen just looking at the Picture is: Seats, Carpeting, Fog lights, No Hood lock;Enging parts, Air cleaner, Spare tire, all the tires, Roll Bar, Doors, mirrors, Hood, Fenders, Shocks, Windshield, Roll bar padding, speaker system, Bumpers, head lights, tail lights. Did I leave anything out.
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Just looking at the picture of that White Jeep is just asking to be stolen. Things that can be stolen just looking at the Picture is: Seats, Carpeting, Fog lights, No Hood lock;Enging parts, Air cleaner, Spare tire, all the tires, Roll Bar, Doors, mirrors, Hood, Fenders, Shocks, Windshield, Roll bar padding, speaker system, Bumpers, head lights, tail lights. Did I leave anything out.
How the hell am I supposed to protect all that? I don't have $1000 to spend on different alarms. Plus one little hood lock won't stop them. If they want it they will get it. Going to paint the hard top then put it back on. People are telling me its a mistake to take it off so guess I can't enjoy the no top. Buy a jeep to enjoy it but don't want to lose my interior, pretty sad.
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The key is to keep valuables out of it if you are going to go topless and doorless. If your stereo has a detachable face, take it with you. And if you are really paranoid just install a kill switch somewhere. I go topless and doorless a lot during nice weather and park downtown Fort Worth. The worst thing that has happened is someone got into my center console and stole my car charger and left all the other stuff laying in the floor board. Oh and a bird took a giant shit on the seat, even with the safari top on.

It all depends on where you keep it and the neighborhoods that you frequent the most. Insurance will cover it. A price you have to pay to own a jeep I guess.
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but that is what insurance is for. don't let thieves prevent you from enjoying your jeep the way it was meant to be enjoyed. i have the past 5 jeeps i owned get "broken into". only thing they took are little things like CD's. but again (as i said before) i don't leave anything valuable in my jeep.

i just recently added Tuffy security products to mine...rear underseat drawer, glove box, door locks (prevents from lifting the hard doors off), underseat drawer (driver's seat), & hood lock.
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How the hell am I supposed to protect all that? I don't have $1000 to spend on different alarms. Plus one little hood lock won't stop them. If they want it they will get it. Going to paint the hard top then put it back on. People are telling me its a mistake to take it off so guess I can't enjoy the no top. Buy a jeep to enjoy it but don't want to lose my interior, pretty sad.
What color are you painting the hard top.
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What color are you painting the hard top.
It's grey now. Going to paint it black.
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Whenever I leave my jeep in a not so good area I take the fuel pump relay out. It's mostly for piece of mind, but it's better than nothing. I don't think anybody wants my 2000 stock yellow TJ with black doors anyway.
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Do you have insurance? If so then your good. There is no shortage of tj's
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Do you have insurance? If so then your good. There is no shortage of tj's
It's fully covered. Uninsured motorist and theft.
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It's fully covered. Uninsured motorist and theft.
Randen... A thief wants to take what they can get off/out as fast as possible. I had the same concerns when I first got my jeep. I live in a very small town and really don't have to worry about theft. But when I do go to the big city (Waco, Tx or Fort Worth) I make sure to park where it is going to be seen and not in the back in the dark. But like I said and someone once told me.. They want to grab and go.. They don't wanna take 15 minuets to take off something and risk getting caught... Or shot in my case!!
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So where did you get this from? Have a website? I'm curious.
GPS tracking devices and services

I got the basic GPS service for $120. You log-in to their website to search the vehicle's location. Easy 2 wire hookup(power/grnd). I think there are also upgrades where you can add a starter disable remotely via the website. Pretty basic but it really help ease my mind. Just make sure the wife/gf doesn't plan one on your jeep unknowingly to see if you are actually hanging out at 4 wheel parts store or here:
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Get a auto page alarm system for the jeep. I have one with a proximity sensor so when someone even walks to close by the jeep it pages me and I can run out of wherever I'm at to see what's up. If your that worried about it, sell it and buy a fiat. You shouldn't be that worried about theft. If you have full coverage with a decent insurance company they will cover anything in the jeep that is bolted down. If your insurance company doesn't cover it then you should switch providers. Of course this is all if your that worried about it. If you are, just pull up your panties and deal with it. Good luck. Out!
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I have insurance and a CHL. Other than that just don't leave any valuabes in it. I occasionally leave some tools in there while I'm at work but I work in a nice area and I can see my jeep from my window.
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My fear is vehical theft. I'm also in So Cal and the last car stolen in my neighborhood was flatbeded in the middle of the night. I'm getting a kill switch but wondering if anyone has thought of a wheel boot type product to prevent the wheels turning. Maybe it would cause so much noise as to wake up folks. I don't know if there anything that would fit oversized tires. Mine is parked on dirt next to the drive so I was thinking of a concret footing and large chain to the frame? Of course that is for extended sittings.
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If you're worried at home, a concrete footer with a shackle and chain should take care of that. As for everyone else, Jeeps get broken into constantly because it's so easy. It's usually neighborhood punk nutters but if you live in the city it's just an easy turn around for profit. Keep your vehicle as close to your home as possible. A locking hood latch is well worth the money as most nutters don't have the attention span to deal with it. If someone rolls up with a flatbed it's gone, simple as that daylight...night time anytime. People don't care about anyone anymore. Not my problem. Don't get involved. Do what you can afford. Insurance is great just hope they don't find your burned out Jeep before they cut the check. Oh yeah...enjoy your weekend.
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i agree with that too.

best thing to do is not leave anything valuable in the jeep. alarm systems keep the honest people honest, imo. i had a remote start on my last TJ & had the installer put a hidden kill switch in for me (in case i was leaving the jeep for a longer period of time).
And I disagree with that...

You can't predict what is going through a thief's head.

My sister had her car parked in the driveway. Same vehicle, 3 years older, stock radio and much more beat up then my car. I had the exact same make / model but my car was ( you guessed it) 3 years newer and in much better shape. It was parked in the street.

Somebody went through our neighborhood busting car windows and stealing radios and whatever else they could clip from inside the car.

These somebodies went right past my newer car parked in the street and went up our driveway to my sister's older car, busted the window, ripped out the radio.

One difference, my car had an alarm system with a flashing led in the dash. Her's didn't....


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And I disagree with that...

You can't predict what is going through a thief's head.

My sister had her car parked in the driveway. Same vehicle, 3 years older, stock radio and much more beat up then my car. I had the exact same make / model but my car was ( you guessed it) 3 years newer and in much better shape. It was parked in the street.

Somebody went through our neighborhood busting car windows and stealing radios and whatever else they could clip from inside the car.

These somebodies went right past my newer car parked in the street and went up our driveway to my sister's older car, busted the window, ripped out the radio.

One difference, my car had an alarm system with a flashing led in the dash. Her's didn't....


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Your off on that one GreenJack………………………..


Years of crime statistics and criminal M/O’s (method of operation) have given us great advise to which I can attest from taking hundreds of B&E & Burglary reports over the past 30 years:


FACT: Most auto B&E’s tend occur at night and in an area that’s somewhat secluded. (Just the opposite of residential burglaries, which tend to occur more during the day when people are most likely at work.) Poorly lit driveways and parking lots are favorites. Cars parked on the street (especially a well traveled one) are not always at risk due a passerby spotting something going on.


FACT: Most auto B&E’s are to UNLOCKED vehicles, and vehicles in UNLOCKED garages.


FACT: Most auto B&E’s where forced entry is used had SOMETHING OF VALUE IN PLAIN SIGHT, WHICH COULD BE EAISLY REMOVED. Pocketbooks, wallets, GPS units, high end cell phones, and packages from shopping, and are the top items. Stereos are on the list, but not as frequently as you think.


FACT: The more time spent on perpetrating a crime = The better the chance of being caught. Most thieves tend stick to the “snatch and run” rule. However those that I have had the “pleasure” of dealing with, usually had one or two flaws; GREED, too many breaks at one time, or JUNKIES where their motive was driven by drug dependency rather than profit.

FACT: People are annoyed by, and ignore car alarms. The only time we ever get a call about a car alarm is when it gets to the point that it has annoyed someone, no one ever calls the police as soon as an alarm sounds reporting a possible B&E! (BTW, this is also true for house alarms, but at least most have an answering service to report it!) Also, many alarms sound exactly the same. Case in point: I took a report one morning from a person who found his car B&E’d as he was about to leave for work. He told me that he heard the alarm going off during the night, but figured it was just his neighbors’ car alarm going off as usual!


FACT: Parking in a well lit area is a better deterrent than a car alarm.


FACT: Having a dog IN your home is a better deterrent than having an alarm IN your car. Most dogs will key on anything out of the ordinary IN and OUT of your home. Most thieves will avoid or leave areas where a dog is barking. (AND SIZE AND BREED DOSEN’T MATTER) You are more apt to respond to YOUR dog barking at something, than a car alarm going off somewhere outside.

We all enjoy having nice things, however there are others who enjoy nice things but don’t want to work or pay for them. Lock your vehicle if you can. Park it in a well lit area, or add some good lighting around your driveway and home. Don’t leave anything of value in plain sight, or remove it from the vehicle. (That includes the cup holder full of change.) If it’s possible for you to own a dog, think about adopting one. Not only will they increase your security, their great companions! We will NEVER be able to totally protect ourselves from all crime, but we CAN greatly reduce our chances of becoming a target of one.
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