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Old 02-22-2012, 07:46 AM   #1
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Jerry Can and Hi-Lift carriers

I've been working on a cargo system that attaches to the spare tire mount. The system starts with a mounting stud that goes through the hole in the spare:






So far I've made two different accessory mounts that work with the new design cargo system.

Here's a Hi-Lift mount:



The nuts holding the jack in place are 3/4", so the Jeep factory lug wrench fits them, making it easy to remove/install the jack.

And a Jerry Can mount (in this photo the Hi-Lift is on a roof rack mount):



Both of these mounts easily attach to the stud that comes through the center hole of the spare with one bolt, which is also 3/4".

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Old 02-22-2012, 07:54 AM   #2
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Thats really cool. Nice job. What hard top is that? I have never seen it before but then Im a newb ,I have only had my LJ just over a month.

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Thats really cool. Nice job. What hard top is that? I have never seen it before but then Im a newb ,I have only had my LJ just over a month.
The hardtop is custom - I designed and built it myself from fiberglass.
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The hardtop is custom - I designed and built it myself from fiberglass.

WOW you have skills. I would love to see more pics of it. I wouldnt even know how to begin to do that. Did you do a thread on it?
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WOW you have skills. I would love to see more pics of it. I wouldnt even know how to begin to do that. Did you do a thread on it?
Yes, but it's not here, it's on JeepForum: "Safari Cab" custom hardtop project - JeepForum.com. Every step of the project is detailed there.

Warning: it's a very long thread, as of now it's got 374 pages and over 5600 replies
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I guess I'll have to be the one to give the caution statement. The added weight you've added that far away from the spare tire mount with the jerry can has added enormous leverage and moment against the mount and tailgate. A full jerry can is heavy enough as is without it also adding its weight for enormous leverage over the spare tire bracket and tail gate.

It looks cool but I sure wouldn't do it.
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I guess I'll have to be the one to give the caution statement. The added weight you've added that far away from the spare tire mount has added enormous leverage and moment against the mount and tailgate. It looks cool but I sure wouldn't do it.
Jerry,

I agree with you, I wouldn't put this extra weight or leverage on an unreinforced stock tailgate.

I'm running the Gr8Tops Exogate tailgate reinforcement/heavy duty hinges, so adding this extra weight and leverage to the tailgate is no problem. Because it's black on the black Jeep, it's a little hard to see in this photo, you can see the heavy-duty hinges in this photo but not the tailgate reinforcement:



One of the Exogate's design goals was to retain as much of the stock look of the Jeep as possible, it's not supposed to look like a hardware store hanging off the back of the Jeep, so it's pretty unobtrusive .

The Exogate has been well tested with the 225-lb. bouncing gorilla test (below), and it's been on this Jeep for about 10,000 miles, carrying a large spare, the Safari Cab barn door upper, and for 6000 or those miles, a jerry can as well.

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That sure looks like a stock non-reinforced spare tire bracket to me. My stock spare tire bracket cracked and failed just carrying a 33x12.50 spare tire on an aluminum wheel. And that was way less stressful than placing a full jerry can further away from the mount due to the enormous amount of added leverage such an arrangement creates.
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That sure looks like a stock non-reinforced spare tire bracket to me. My stock spare tire bracket cracked and failed just carrying a 33x12.50 spare tire on an aluminum wheel. And that was way less stressful than placing a full jerry can further away from the mount due to the enormous amount of added leverage such an arrangement creates.
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Yes, it is a stock carrier.

My experience has been that the combination of the Exogate completely eliminating tailgate flex, plus very tightly set snubber bumpers (especially the one on the body below the tailgate), eliminates the spare tire movement that can cause a "hammering" action over bumps that the spare carrier has to arrest, so the factory spare carrier isn't as stressed as it might be otherwise.

But if it develops cracks over time, I'll either reinforce it or build something stronger. I'll be monitoring it closely.
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My experience has been that the combination of the Exogate completely eliminating tailgate flex, plus very tightly set snubber bumpers (especially the one on the body below the tailgate), eliminates the spare tire movement that can cause a "hammering" action over bumps that the spare carrier has to arrest, so the factory spare carrier isn't as stressed as it might be otherwise.
My spare tire carrier failed with extended rubber snubbers that prevented the spare tire from flexing the bracket. I installed a second factory snubber over the top of each factory snubber, after cutting the curved portion off the top of the original snubber and to give it the proper height. It provided a very firm snug support for the spare tire which didn't wiggle/move around on the mount at all after increasing the height of the OE snubbers.

The OE spare tire bracket still cracked failed within 3-4 months of installing the bigger spare tire and simultaneously installed taller snubbers.
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Yes, but it's not here, it's on JeepForum: "Safari Cab" custom hardtop project - JeepForum.com. Every step of the project is detailed there.

Warning: it's a very long thread, as of now it's got 374 pages and over 5600 replies

Cool ,did anyone buy the concept from you and start making it available to the public? I didnt read all 374 pages yet LOL.
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if not they sure as well should!!
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Cool ,did anyone buy the concept from you and start making it available to the public? I didnt read all 374 pages yet LOL.
Yes, Gr8Tops licensed the Safari Cab design from me. They've been working on getting it into production.
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Any updates to this? I've got the exogate, which works great but it would be even better If I could carry some extra fuel.
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Any updates to this? I've got the exogate, which works great but it would be even better If I could carry some extra fuel.
No updates to the jerry can carrier, but I recently designed and built a cargo rack that works with the Exogate:



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Here's another design jerry can carrier I built to try out with the Exogate. I built this one to carry one can, but a two-can version could also be done.





I did a NY-Portland, Oregon and back trip with this one installed, it worked very well.
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I just want to know when the heck I can get your safari top . LOL I know you hear that everytime you post a pic of your Jeep. But I really do.
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ID:	134269It looks like the smittybilt I Rack. I had one on my stock tire carrier, tore the door, changed over to a swing away carrier with cans by dirtworx.
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I just want to know when the heck I can get your safari top . LOL I know you hear that everytime you post a pic of your Jeep. But I really do.
The best place for info on the Safari Cab hardtop is the Gr8Tops Facebook page (Gr8tops | Facebook). They've recently been posting photos of a new silver pre-production Safari Cab top which is running around the Detroit area:

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My contribution. Cost was Free. Took one hour to make out of wood. Reduces leverage and moment compared to carrying the fuel on the other side of the tire. The Rotopax is only 4 gallons but as long as you keep the width less that 4 inches, you could go bigger.
















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No updates to the jerry can carrier, but I recently designed and built a cargo rack that works with the Exogate:



You have sucessfully turned a jeep into a land rover lol.
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I'm going to check out that Exogate, so thanks for bringing that to my attention.

More importantly, I've never really liked the look of the longer wheelbase LJs until I saw your hard top with the soft roll-ups in that other thread. You've ruined me Mr. Jeff. My TJ may never be that cool. For that, I will destroy you.

Remarkably beautiful work.
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I'm going to check out that Exogate, so thanks for bringing that to my attention.

More importantly, I've never really liked the look of the longer wheelbase LJs until I saw your hard top with the soft roll-ups in that other thread. You've ruined me Mr. Jeff. My TJ may never be that cool. For that, I will destroy you.

Remarkably beautiful work.
You mean these photos of my "summer configuration"? muwaaahaaaahaaaa!!!!!.. my evil plot must be working...




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