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Old 11-30-2008, 11:08 PM   #1
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Jk d44 axle swap

So, I have researched it a lot and thinking about doing the axle swap. I wanted to know if anyone has done it yet and can you give any purdent information.I still feel it is the most cost effective way of getting stronger axles/gears/lockers under my truck.yea, they may not be the best version of the d44/locker but still has to be better than d30/35 and open... I have found the front axle goes right in other than the spring perches and shock mounts as for the rear i dont know yet.

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Actually, I believe they are comming out with (if it isnt already available yet) JK axles that have brackets already in place to be bolted right up to a TJ. Cant remember where I read it but I do know I saw them not too long ago.

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anybody have any further news on this? i'd love to know....
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:21 AM   #4
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MOPAR P5153826 - MOPAR® Performance Rubicon Edition Dana 44 Rear Axle Assembly with Brakes for 07-09 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

These are Mopar Dana 44 axles for the JK

There 62" instead of the TJ 60.5"

The lockers are electric instead of air

The bolt pattern is 5x5 instead of the TJ 5x4.5

If you want them on a TJ you have to cut the mounts and weld on TJ mounts.

4.10 gears

I'm not sure if it's worth it, maybe if you can find a company that will sell it to you with the TJ mounts and the gears already swapped. At that point the price is already getting up there, now you need new wheels, I know what your thinking just use spacers/converters to change from the 5.5 to the 4.5, well this axle is longer than the TJ already and the wheel spacers will just push it out more. Most 15" wheels wont fit over the JK brakes.

It is doable, and it's not a horrible way to go, but I think after it's all said and done, you can probably buy a set of Dana 44s from a TJ for around the same price.

If you can weld your own spring mounts, change your own gears, and you were going to buy new wheels anyway, then this is a hell of a deal.

You could always pickup a Ford 8.8 rear axle out of a 96 or newer Explorer and have the mounts, gears, and locker done.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:05 AM   #6
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if you research these you find out that they are much stronger than the tj 44 version......they actually use a stub shaft stronger than a d30........they also use a larger u-joint than the 760x which is the weak link of all jeep front ends 44s and 30s.....there was a write up on this swap in jp a couple of months ago and from the way they explained this sounds like a pretty easy swap if you know how to do a little fab work......not mto mention they are much cheaper than the tj rubicon models.....i say go for it
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:27 PM   #8
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If your comfortable with welding enough to trust your Jeeps suspension with your weld job, and you know how to swap gears, do it, but there's about 10 people on this site that can do both of those things on there own.

Add in the cost of paying someone else to do both of those things.
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after reading a little more of this thread i would like to add to my comments......if you are only planning on running a 35" tire then you could just swap in an 8.8 as stated above and it will be the same amount of work at a cheaper cost....and to offset the cost of the front jk axle you could buy superior shafts and an arb or electric locker and be strong enough.......for that matter u could skip the chromos for now and just put in good hardened spicer joints with full cirlce retaining clips and get by......i ran 36s on a locker for 2 years and never broke an inner shaft.....it was always u joint failure. final trip(tellico) with a d30 i ran good joints and full circle clips completed every obstacle there and broke no front axles.........just dont go much bigger than 35s or this will all not apply
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this is nice but 5300$ too much for me, since i am ordering in my long arm next week!
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I have a welder and can set up gears, does not help now that chrysler is not including the brakes anymore on the jk axles, now no longer a viable option due to the added cost!guess i will be searching the junk yard for a ford front d44 and 8.8...
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that is the price for the tj axles........i believe chrysler does still supply the brake parts b/c the outers for the new d30 and d44 are not the same therefore they would have to or this would not be a very smart upgrade......if you are gonna run a ford 44 u might as well run a 9" from a match set b/c it is stronger and you can get the same gears......i run a 44/9" combo and it is great
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everywhere i read now "brakes not included" . 9 inch is great, just easier to find 8.8, but you never know what i will come across...
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:12 AM   #14
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if you find a 5 lug ford 44 u will find a 9" out back.......i found about 20 before i bought the one i wanted for 50 bucks
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i would like to add that in the newest 4wd hardware catalog i found the jk axles front and rear for 1500 and 1300 respectively with complete brakes lockers and 4:10 gears....u cant beat that front and rear axle swap price....point is they do come with the brakes.......ur just gonna need new wheels/tires or wheel adapters
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Hello, Im new here and in the process of a jk M44 swap.

Crystler had stopped making these axles for a while. A layoff due to economy is what they tell me. They are back in production and take about 2 to 3 weeks to get. I ordered one from 4wd. on Oct. 2 and still havent saw anything. That is because the one I ordered was supposed to have brakes. Crystler no longer offers them with brakes. That is why I havent saw anything form 4wd. Aparently they might be comming out with a brake kit sometime soon.

I ordered another one from my local jeep dealer. that one is supposed to be here Dec 22. With no brakes.

If you are going to get one just go to your local jeep dealer and get one. That is where all the offroad companys get them from. They are $1,620 in my area. I would think that is everywhere. With no brakes. I did a load of research including ebay craigslist every salvage yard in the country darn near. If you find one in a salvage yard its going to cost you more that a new one. I found a burnt one for 2,700. But would have to get completely rebuilt and then you hope the fire didnt warp it or take the temper out of it. Some offroad shops might get a discount on them thru the dealers but if you have to pay shipping your better off just going to the local dealer like I did.

I am gooing to weld my own brackets and all the good junk. Dont have to change gears cuz I already have 4.10s. And a long arm lift soon I hope.

I have a 2000 TJ with a bent dana 30 front and a dana 44 rear. Has a built 4.0L and a pos 4 inch lift with 35's. I bought it this way and now Im fixin.

There is also rumors of a jk dana 44 with tj brackets comming out and there is also rumor of a dana 60 jk axle. And some stuff with 5 x 5 and 5 x 5.5 lug patterns. I didnt get much on that yet.
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I think the JK 60 is only 30 spline from I recall.
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strong carrier but my 9" has bigger shafts than a 30 spline d60.....why did they ever even make a 30 spline land anchor....watched a cherokee snap one like a twig at mason jar(harlan) this summer.....
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i also did here about the jk axle w/ tj brackets from chrysler, but wh rally knows? and the d60 as well...
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I got a phone call this morning. My axle arrived. I went and picked it up this afternoon. Now I have to swap the brackets and wait for my new lift kit to arrive.
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unless you are dead set on a factory style suspension now would be the time to customize it and add more than factory triangulation and possibly eliminate that worthless track bar......goodluck with the install, hope it goes smooth
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That sounds like a good idea. Do you have any pictures of your 4 link? I havent got to far into ha yet. I was thinking of going with a RE 5.5 inch long arm kit for the suspension but that still uses a track bar. Ill have to do some research on the 4-link. Do you or anybody know a good spot to look for that. Ill try searching here as well. Thanks.
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ive gotta get some pics of my truss soon anyway so ill get some susp pics for you....i runthe rubi 5.5 springs but none of their arms.....mine is all homebrew or when im trying to sound cool "custom"

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