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Old 01-21-2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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JK Dana 44 on Tj

Ok, well im not going to go into what happened to my rear differential because I don't want to waste ya'lls time. Anyways I found a dana 44 rear axle for 500 bucks. Now the catch is, is that it's coming off a JK. I plan on doing all the work myself except the welding. Besides the brackets what else am I going to have to look into buying if I want this to work. I know I'm going to need a rear drive shaft but I'm not sure where to look so that I can get one that will work for an NP231 transfer case. If you guys have any ideas on where I can find something like that please let me know. Also if there is anything else I should know please say so. I dont want to get myself into a mess before I buy this dana 44. Any information would be appreciated.

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wheel bolt pattern is different, so that is something to think about.

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EDIT: ^ wow i type really slow

ur gona need new wheels as well. the bolt pattern for the tj and jk are different. so this means you will have 2 different sets of wheels on ur jeep, lets hope you never get a flat tire..........
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Well thats not what I was wanting to hear lol. Oh well theres always something. Well I'm just trying to find the cheapest route. I can get a complete dana 44 with brackets already on at northridge. Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts: Custom Axles Includes free shipping and no taxes. But for 1759.95 is still alot of money but I'm pretty sure thats the cheapest route I can take as of right now. Unless a mirracle happens and someone with a TJ is selling there Dana 44 around my area. Would I be able to use my rear drive shaft if I went this route?
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What all is bad with your current rear end? Spiders, shaft? Why not pick up that JK axle for cheap and hang on to it. Buy a front one to match later and swap them in for an upgrade.
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how about a ford 8.8? it would be cheaper then the d44, and has the same bolt pattern as your tj
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im going to go with ford 8.8 soon. As soon as I find the money laying around in my couch... I can get an 8.8 at my local salvage yard for 80$... I just need money for the materials for it.. (axleshaft, brackets, e-brake cable, gears, brakes)
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AZTJ- Well I thought about buying it, then reselling it for more because its only got 500 miles on it. But my dilemma is that my jeep is my DD and I'm not sure how long I can barrow my stepdads Cherokee which he is wanting to sell within this next month...

schnutzy- I've thought about getting one, but I'd have to get axle shaft, brackets, e-brake cable, gears, brakes and in the long run it will most likely cost me as much money. I don’t know how to do gears myself and welding, so the shops around here will run me completely dry.

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wouldnt you have to re gear and get brackets for the d44? seems like you could easily do that with a ford 8.8 for cheaper
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Well with the JK yes, but the one off of northridge no cause I can choose what gears it has in it.
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car-parts.com has several TJ dana 44's in the DFW area, one under 800 bucks.
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I am very suprised no one has mentioned getting wheel adapters. If your worried about the different wheel bolt patterns you can just pick up some wheel adapters, though you might want to get wheel spacers for the front to match. Also I believe all Jeep d44's are geared to 4.10, not a problem as long as you regear the front before you switch into 4wd(if you don't already have 4.10 gearing). Also look if it has a locker in it and antilock brakes. If it has the locker go for it you can sell it for much more than that.


I agree with just going with a ford 8.8 or similar. Your in DFW people are crashing every day with the junk yards filling up with stuff you can cram in your rear(no pun intended
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Also I believe all Jeep d44's are geared to 4.10,
all the jk wranglers have D44s as the rear axle. and since there are 3(?) ratios that come factory from jeep, so any D44 rear axels could have either 3.21, 3.73, or 4.10 gears
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Already built 8.8's can be found somewhat easily. Check craigslist, Jeepforum.com usually has them, otherwise check Pirate4x4 and also ebay has had them.
There's a place in Utah that was selling and 8.8 bolt-in application for $700 or $800
Those are your best bet for finding an 8.8 and possibly one with brackets alread.

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FORD 8.8 AXLE ASSY. JEEP UPGRADE, STRONGER THAN DANA 44 : eBay Motors (item 360105084786 end time Jan-30-10 14:01:09 PST)

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Worse case getting the brackets, brake and ebrake could come in under priced as well.
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all the jk wranglers have D44s as the rear axle. and since there are 3(?) ratios that come factory from jeep, so any D44 rear axels could have either 3.21, 3.73, or 4.10 gears
Oh, didn't know they fazed out the d35 as a rear axle. Thanks for the info
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Ok, im going tomorrow to look at a dana 44 complete axle for 800.00. It came off a 98 Wrangler and has 124k miles on it. It's from an insurance recycling parts store. They garentee their parts for 6 months and you can get extended warrantees. Anyways are there some things I can do to make sure this axle is in running condition. I'm not an Axle wiz so I'm not sure what specific things I should look at before purchasing. Let me know what I can do to make sure I'm not buying a piece of junk.

Side note, the only reason why im thinking about purchasing it, is because it comes with all the brackets and has the same gearing as my dana 30 so its saves me alot of money in the long run.
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Pop the diff cover and check the spiders.. you'll probably want to change the gear fluid in there any way. If they all check out and there are no missing teeth or cracks I'd say your good. What kind of axle? D35 or D44?
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It's a dana 44.
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Well I went to look at that axle and I'll be damned if it was a dana 35. So that was a quarter of a tank gone. I have found another dana 44 with lockers "came off a 01 rubicon" and their asking 1100. Does that sound reasonable or should I wait it out and hope an axle will show up thats at a lower price?
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Uh... the Rubicon was introduced in 2003... not 2001.
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Oh well i'm dumb and so are the people selling it. Good to know. Wow i feel like a retard now.

Ok well whats the most I should spend on a dana 44 thats used? Theres 2 more I found that are asking 1100 also.
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Prices for used TJ Dana 44 axles have come down due to there being more of them on the market now. I wouldn't pay more than $800-1000 at the most. For the one selling for $1100 you found, I'd stuff eight $100 bills into your wallet and pull them all out (slyly letting him see your wallet is then empty) and offer him $800 in cash for it. Have an extra $100 hidden elsewhere in your wallet if he absolutely won't accept $800 but I'd push hard for $800 and hope he'll counter-offer back $900 at the most.

Casually drop early in the conversation that you have another two Dana 44 axles out of TJs that you're going to go look at after looking at his. That'll likely make him ready to deal a little more.
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Jerry you sound like your experianced in this kind of stuff haha. Great advice, im going to give that a try and let ya'll know if I come home with a new axle.
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Ok I got the a dana 44. Now time for some question before I attempt to install over the weekend. Will I be able to use my current rear drive shaft or will I need to order a new one? Also since the rear now has different gears will I need to take off my front drive shaft till I can get both axles regeard to 4.88's? Or will they only shatter the gears if I put it in 4 wheel dirve?
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Depending on what year it was from might have to measure driveshaft for fit, but there's probabyl a chance if from any TJ 97-02 should work with each other.

Also hopefully they didn't upgrade the rear pinion yoke, if it's still factory yoke then you should be good. Factory yoke should have cast ears helping hold the edge of u-joint

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Ok I got the a dana 44. Now time for some question before I attempt to install over the weekend. Will I be able to use my current rear drive shaft or will I need to order a new one? Also since the rear now has different gears will I need to take off my front drive shaft till I can get both axles regeard to 4.88's? Or will they only shatter the gears if I put it in 4 wheel dirve?
Just don't put it in 4wd drive until you change the gears.. on a side note if you find a good deal on a low miles dana 30 it may be cheaper to buy the whole axle vs, getting the gears changed.
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Well guys I got the axle on and the drive shaft is too long. I have gone to tom woods site and I've sent them an email. Does anyone know if there is a site or store that already makes drive shafts for a Dana 44 on a 2.5l Jeep? I tried everything to get it on except put it on before I bolted all the control arms, springs, and shocks. It’s about 3/4" too long. You guys have any ideas on what I can do to get it on? Or would I be taking a chance of damaging the axle?
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take it to a driveshaft shop and have it shortened. cheaper then buying a new one.
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If you don't already have a slip yoke eliminator(You should with that 4" lift) then get one with a CV drive shaft. Will eliminate vibes and be easier on all your parts. Or attempt to pick up a NV241(has no slip yoke and bonus of having 4:1 low gearing) t-case and the driveshaft

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