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Old 05-31-2013, 03:01 AM   #31
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Also, it appears that it comes with a front track bar. I'm not nearly an expert, I could be awfully wrong. Assuming that it won't work because it doesn't seem like it should, do y'all happen to know if it's worth anything?
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:59 PM   #32
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Ok I'm feeling like no one is really sure about this. Regardless of if it works or not, I'm picking up the springs and shocks tomorrow for $15. The chance of getting a 2-3 inch lift for $15 is worth wasting $15 if it doesn't work. I could always sell them and make more off them anyways.

The suspension is off of an 08 JK and I have an 01 TJ Sahara. Stock suspension with 2" body lift, which I will be taking off if this works.

So here's what it seems like. On the front, the springs fit right in like the stock TJ ones do. The shocks need a little modification, but nothing extreme or really that challenging.

For the rear, the shocks will go on fine with a little widening of the bottom mounting hole. I just need to take the bracket from the front shocks and hammer it in a little bit. For the springs, the bottom fits on just fine, but the top needs modification. Just a little heat to widen it to fit around the bump stops.

So, if this is true, it shouldn't be too challenging. One question: what do I use to heat the spring? Also, does anyone know if this will cause me to need anything else replaced, such as my drive shaft or anything of that nature? I figure since I already have 2" of lift, this will only lift it about .5-1" more.
It sounds pretty easy to me, too. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any pictures or step-by-step instructions that concise and to the point. As far as needing to do anything to your driveline, I doubt that two inches will make too much of a difference. Worst case scenario, you could always purchase some transfer case drop brackets if you do in fact encounter driveline vibration.

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Also, it appears that it comes with a front track bar. I'm not nearly an expert, I could be awfully wrong. Assuming that it won't work because it doesn't seem like it should, do y'all happen to know if it's worth anything?
That actually looks like a rear track bar. That would definitely not fit on the front of your TJ. The front track bar has a ball joint on the driver's side end and a bolt bushing on the other end.
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That actually looks like a rear track bar. That would definitely not fit on the front of your TJ. The front track bar has a ball joint on the driver's side end and a bolt bushing on the other end.
Do you know what it's worth?
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I'll be going down to a off road race shop on Tuesday to get the springs done. The guy that runs it is doing work on my brother's car and said we could come down and use the tools to do it ourselves so we don't have to pay anything.

I'll report back Wednesday, as I have a date after that Tuesday night.
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Do you know what it's worth?
$125 is what they run brand new on Amazon or JC Whitney. These are for aftermarket parts of course, so if the bushings are in good shape you might be able to get $25-$50 out of the track bar...possibly? Put it on Craig's List and see if you get any bites.
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I'll be going down to a off road race shop on Tuesday to get the springs done. The guy that runs it is doing work on my brother's car and said we could come down and use the tools to do it ourselves so we don't have to pay anything.

I'll report back Wednesday, as I have a date after that Tuesday night.
Sweet! Pictures would also help all of us that are overly curious. Enjoy your date!
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$125 is what they run brand new on Amazon or JC Whitney. These are for aftermarket parts of course, so if the bushings are in good shape you might be able to get $25-$50 out of the track bar...possibly? Put it on Craig's List and see if you get any bites.
Sounds good. Thanks
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Report will have to wait until Friday, wasn't able to make it to the shop last night, going tomorrow now. I'll try to remember to get pictures.
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Report will have to wait until Friday, wasn't able to make it to the shop last night, going tomorrow now. I'll try to remember to get pictures.
Cool. Can't wait to see them!
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We heated the end of the spring up with a torch, and then used the channel locks to bend the spring open.



Had the springs clamped in a vice on the table.



One thing I didn't get a picture of though, the channel locks pulled the spring together, so we had to get a pry bar out to pry the part we bent back to have a flat surface for the spring to seat on.

We were done in about 30 minute. They just need to be painted now to keep from rusting.
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Interesting. Looks relatively simple. I'd probably still have to take them to a shop since I don't have those particular tools at my disposal, but it should be easy for anyone that knows what they're doing. Please post some before and after pics of your Jeep when you install the springs.
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The only thing is, heating a spring makes it brittle...
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Is there any reason to install only the shocks and keep the factory tj springs?
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im looking to get 2" springs from a jk that a guys sale from cl but don't know if they are gona fit my 05 tj?
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The only thing is, heating a spring makes it brittle...
If you quench (dunk it in water or otherwise cool it rapidly) it it will be brittle. Letting it cool slowly (open air) keeps some of the brittleness out of the metal.

The JK shocks are a bit longer than the TJ shocks, and you'll probably bottom them out if you keep them on with TJ springs.
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can any one post the length of the JK springs when installed in order for us to compare to the TJ springs we have presently to determine what we will could get in the way of lift knowing stock TJ with no sag is 12" in the front and 8" in the rear .
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I just did this lift in my wifes 01 tj. Stock height was the same as yours, 12 rear 8 front.. After the install i was almost 14.5 rear but only 9 front, and that was only because of the spacers I also installed. The rear stock shocks are also maxed out with the JK springs, but all I did for the bumpstops was unbolt the cups and then reattach them after the spring was installed.
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I just did this lift in my wifes 01 tj. Stock height was the same as yours, 12 rear 8 front.. After the install i was almost 14.5 rear but only 9 front, and that was only because of the spacers I also installed. The rear stock shocks are also maxed out with the JK springs, but all I did for the bumpstops was unbolt the cups and then reattach them after the spring was installed.
So does that mean you didn't have to bother with heating the springs?
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Yeah I don't trust heating anything that holds such severe tension like that. Any sort of heat, even when you let them air cool, will cause them to prematurely fail. I didn't have an issue installing them, just took abit of prying to get the bumpstop cup to fit inside te spring
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Front is extremely easy. Measurements from top of the tire to bottom of the fender flare was 3-1/2 before. Now with jk rubi springs and a rubicon express 2-1/2 spacer we're at 6-3/4. Note this is on a lj.


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Note: We only netted 3/4" from 12' rubi springs only in the front.
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Yeah I don't trust heating anything that holds such severe tension like that. Any sort of heat, even when you let them air cool, will cause them to prematurely fail. I didn't have an issue installing them, just took abit of prying to get the bumpstop cup to fit inside te spring
Nice. Maybe I'll give it a try. I wonder if there's an aftermarket bump stop that would totally negate using the cup? Did the front springs go on without any issues?
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Note: We only netted 3/4" from 12' rubi springs only in the front.
So if I'm looking for two inches of lift over the factory springs, I should Just go with a kit - correct? If I'm only netting .75" of lift from the JK springs, I don't even think it's worth the time to mess with it.
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Front springs were super easy in and out. I'm not see about an aftermarket bumpstop. All I did for the rear is put the cup through the bottom of the spring before I installed it.
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Front springs were super easy in and out. I'm not see about an aftermarket bumpstop. All I did for the rear is put the cup through the bottom of the spring before I installed it.
Once you pre-inserted the bump stop cup, did it mount back without having to heat the spring to open it up to a larger diameter? Did you achieve the desired amount of lift with the JK springs? Did the rear spring fit loosely? Someone mentioned that the rear JK springs aren't as wide at the base (portion that contacts the axle) as the TJ springs. Sorry to ask so many questions.
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Yeah the bumpstop kind of acted like a clamp to press the coil in. No they are not loose at all, sitting on its on own weight the shocks are almost completely extended. Total I achieved close to 3 1/2 inches if rear lift, which was perfect for tucking the new 32s I put on it for my wife
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Yeah the bumpstop kind of acted like a clamp to press the coil in. No they are not loose at all, sitting on its on own weight the shocks are almost completely extended. Total I achieved close to 3 1/2 inches if rear lift, which was perfect for tucking the new 32s I put on it for my wife
Sweet! Did you achieve the same lift in the front with the JK springs as well? Was the 3.5 inches a combination of spacers and the JK springs?
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On the rear it was only coil that have me the lift, the front I had to build one of my custom lift spacers as we gained almost no lift at all and it had quite a severe driveline angle to the rear
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On the rear it was only coil that have me the lift, the front I had to build one of my custom lift spacers as we gained almost no lift at all and it had quite a severe driveline angle to the rear
What size spacer did you end up using? The more I hear about these "modifications" I'm leaning toward just saving the cash for an actual lift kit. Thoughts?

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